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Linda7NJ said:
Iirc one terrorist went to flight school, wasn't interested in learning how to land and blatantly said so.....HUGE RED FLAG that was ignored.
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Yeah, I was just rereading some stuff on them, most of them did pretty lousy at flight school and I remember an instructor mentioning how horrible one of them was at landings. You are right, should have been a red flag, but who (other than maybe a select few) saw 9/11 coming?
 
ElleElle,
They have a big statement right on their main page-

http://www.boeing.com/boeing/

I don't want to copy it here because it is short and I don't want to violate the 10 % rule :eek:
Funny though, I was going to say I bet they are working with NTSB, and they are.
 
PoirotryInMotion said:
JMO, but I believe he was only sharing what other family members (eg. Woods' brother) have already said--that their confirmation that they believe this to be a hijacking was actually good news, compared to the alternative most had been considering (crashing into the sea). As Philip Woods' brother said (link upthread), at least they suddenly had hope they might see their loved ones again--that they might be hostages rather than dead.

I know I had renewed hope for them being alive after hearing authorities were thinking purposeful, evasive hijacking with travel for another 5-6 hours rather than midair explosion/crash.
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I understand the feeling of euphoria. I felt it too. What kind of annoys me is that this person is even speaking publicly about what the families were/are feeling.
 
Nore said:
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I wouldn't be afraid to fly on a plane from Eng., Ire., Canada, Australia, France,..not at all.:seeya:
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Neither would I! I'm not actually scared to travel to any country. The only thing that puts certain countries off limits to us is my husbands job.
 
deoneta said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight.html?hp

Malaysian authorities on Monday reversed themselves on the sequence of events they believe took place on the plane in the crucial minutes before ground controllers lost contact with it early on March 8. They said it was the plane’s first officer — the co-pilot — who was the last person in the cockpit to speak to ground control. And they withdrew their assertion that another automated system on the plane, the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System, or Acars, had already been disabled when the co-pilot spoke."
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Maybe Captain Shah used the restroom, came back in the cockpit and noticed the transponder and communications were disabled. :scared:

So, that would leave FO and someone in the jump seat? That's how I can picture it happening.
 
aa9511 said:
Just some general thoughts:



As we see, the conversation regarding fl370 has for the last two (+) days been largely consumed with discussion of the pilots and their possible involvement.



Malaysia has given very little new information, and keep reiterating that they are looking into the crew.



The major news channels have run with that and are also discussing the pilots.



IMO, this is all by design.



Designed to divert the public's attention, while in the meantime, they have IMO narrowed passengers to suspect ones, and all intelligence agencies busy trying to see who they are and who is behind this and what they did and how they did it. And most importantly, where the plane is and what they did with it.



I don't think they really suspect the pilots at all, I think they would have already done enough research on their movements in last few days and months, to either rule them out or know with great confidence that it was one of them.



JMO.
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I really hope you're right. If you're not into something, then Malaysia is doing FAR too little. There better be good reason for all of their missteps/errors/take backs/etc. Other than the fact they're not a superpower/big country.
 
gregjrichards said:
New Wall Street Journal article released sorry I don't have a subscription to read all of it but here is a link it says no evidence has been found implicating either co-pilot by Malaysian authorities.

Investigators Look at Captain Zaharie's Home Flight Simulator for Clues on Missing Jet
Authorities Found No Evidence to Implicate Either Pilot

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303287804579445073074255160?mod=e2tw
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I'm surprised about that. NOT because I thought the pilots had anything to do with it, but because it would tie everything up in a neat little bow, ie. pilots did it, plane is at the bottom of the Atlantic *dusts off hands* case closed.
 
lawstudent said:
In terms of maintenance and pilot training, I agree those countries are probably very safe. I don't know if I trust their security as well. But I also don't think U.S. levels of security are always that needed - the fact is, passengers would react so differently post 9/11 that you would need a fairly advanced way of incapacitating them. Box cutters wouldn't be very effective, although could still obviously hurt someone.

For me, the problem is much more fear of mechanical failure. I know the U.S. does a really good job checking its planes and making sure procedures are complied with. Nothing is perfect, of course, but the airlines don't want the liability. When a plane hasn't departed from the U.S., I still get concerned that something may have been missed in the maintenance department. I would also want to know how careful they are about letting flights depart in dangerous weather conditions etc. It's a pain to have a flight canceled, but the financial motive of airlines makes me wary. Of course they want their planes to fly as often as possible with as few breaks and expenses as possible - that's only natural. But sometimes even minor deviations from procedure to get a plane on the ground can be catastrophic, like those cases where the screws didn't get put back in or where there was tape left on the pressure sensor....


ETA: Someone I know who has been to Israel claims Israel maintains security just by asking questions to try and discern who you are, and avoids the "invasive" tactics of the U.S. in terms of physical screenings and limitations on what you can bring on board. I know Israel is good about security, but how does it differ from the U.S.? While I know there is a lot of value in sizing a person up, I find it hard to believe they'd be able to pinpoint every single sinister person by chatting.
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BBM ~ This is why, IMO.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad"]Mossad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 
Derryn Hunch said:
LoL - Acrylic Plastic.
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Tell me it isn't so!! True story. We use to have a tv with a pull out knob for off and on. This was back when super glue really started to be popular. I put a lot on it because I wanted to make sure it stayed. You can probably guess the rest of the story. I was holding the knob and when I tried to let go well...:floorlaugh: I really was bonded to the tv.:blushing:I hope they have a better solution if one breaks on a 777.
 
I keep going back to, in my mind, what the motive is (if hijacking by terrorists)?

Guy on cnn, on the don lemon special, said could be one do 3 things:

-want something in the cargo.
-want a specific passenger or passengers
-murder (they wanted to kill a certain high-value passenger)

But for the cargo one, as someone else stated, couldn't they just have gotten a private plane? Instead of carrying out this huge operation, just bribe ppl to put the cargo in the private plane?
 
J1981 said:
I really hope you're right. If you're not into something, then Malaysia is doing FAR too little. There better be good reason for all of their missteps/errors/take backs/etc. Other than the fact they're not a superpower/big country.
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I may have to edit this post so that I may add the MSM links but Malaysia has spent boatloads of large dollars on defense spending YET it's ally Singapore has questioned whether the radar systems actually work. The contractors for the maintenance of these systems are well placed Malaysians

"Malaysia's radar systems came into spotlight in 2011 when Singapore disputed Putrajaya's claims of 2,058 incidents of airspace violations by the republic's air force since 2008 - leading to questions about the radar systems maintenance."

http://news.malaysia.msn.com/tmi/mh...n-malaysia’s-air-force-and-radar-capabilities

upstream in this thread today I had a link that quoted a Malaysian politician saying this was a shame and a black eye for his country that the air force did not intercept the plane and that India would have reacted more strenuously Here's a quote from the Indian Defence Minister:

"The idea that the plane flew through Indian airspace for several hours without anyone noticing is bizarre," a defense ministry official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"These are wild reports, without any basis," he said, adding a pilot would have to know the precise location of all Indian radars and surveillance systems to be able to get around them.

Explaining why this was unlikely, he said surveillance was so tight on India's border facing its nuclear arch-rival Pakistan that the air force scrambled a pair of Sukhoi fighters last month after an unidentified object showed up on the radar.

It turned out to be a weather balloon drifting towards the Pakistan border."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/17/us-malaysia-airlines-southasia-idUSBREA2G10320140317


now whether or not this is bluster - who knows but there is a lot at stake obviously

2nd source of same issue highlights that sensitive border is very protected which begs the obvious question, ooops another accident?

"Once you move into mainland Indian airspace, let alone further northwest towards Pakistan and Afghanistan, I would be hugely surprised if an unidentified plane that had filed no flight plan would be able to penetrate their airspace without being challenged,” says Davis. “It would seem to me highly unlikely.”

http://time.com/26883/malaysian-air-force-slammed-for-failing-to-intercepted-mh370/
 
Nymeria said:
ElleElle,
They have a big statement right on their main page-

http://www.boeing.com/boeing/

I don't want to copy it here because it is short and I don't want to violate the 10 % rule :eek:
Funny though, I was going to say I bet they are working with NTSB, and they are.
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YOU ROCK! :rocker: :loveyou:

Silly me, did not even look there! lol
 
Linda7NJ said:
THUD!

I'm convinced they have a big wheel they spin like at carnivals....right before they have a presser.... They give the wheel a good spin and whatever it lands on, that's the latest!
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Yep, sounds like it. I think they either have no idea and they throw out crap statements to buy time, or they DO know and for whatever reason they are doing the exact same thing.
 
China has begun an in land search I wonder if they have any intelligence to suggest the plane may have landed in China.

(Flight MH370) China begins inland search
(13 mins ago)

China has begun searching for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 on its own territory, state media said, citing Beijing's envoy in Kuala Lumpur.
The northern corridor projected from satellite and military radar data that the aircraft might have flown through passes through far western China, and Chinese ambassador Huang Huikang said that China had begun search and rescue operations in the area, Xinhua said.—AFP

http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking_news_detail.asp?id=47574&icid=2&d_str=
 
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