MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #6

[georgiajean]

I think some people jump the gun and assume the worst because it gets them attention. To be the first to announce something, and have people respond...it's part of the "connected" generation.
Like the people who watched a guy get beat up and murdered. They recorded it on their phones and uploaded it to Youtube before the man's body had been taken by the ambulance.
Some people are pretty disconnected from reality.
I will hold out hope until hope is an absurdity. and even then, sometimes I won't let go.

 

[sarx]

I don't know that it's a bad idea to keep exploring other options until such time that an arrest is made and the police say "we got 'em". KWIM? Until that time anything is possible and closing the case can lead to missing something critical. JMO.

 

[georgiajean]

Why are we going backwards now???
All the information that we have thus far points to MJ as the main POI.
LE has stated that he was the last to see PB alive, not Cousin?
MJ has been the main one to be interviewed numerous of times by LE.
MJ is the one with the stories that don't add up.

Lets keep the focus where it needs to be, and where LE has it on MJ and his crew, not maybe MJ allowing his crew to have access to PB.

MJ is the main POI and most likely has everything to do with this case.

With respect, in my own thinking I have never excluded the cousins and other brothers. MJ has placed himself the center of attention, with his reckoning of the events that day. It may be that MJ is covering for someone else, being the big brother/big cousin. It may be that he truly doesn't know what happened to her. It may be that the cousin who lived there is the one, but he had a better alibi or is a better liar than MJ. Who knows.
I think it is part of our job to hash out all the possibilities and not have tunnel vision?
That said, I do believe MJ is the main POI, and the holder of the keys to PB's whereabouts. We just may need to get TO him through his younger relatives. IMO.

 

[BACH50]

I agree, there is no reason this body has to be Phylicia. What I do not understand is why anyone would assume it is, rather than wait. Usually, you deny, deny, until you have to accept.

LE stated earlier that once the weather broke things would surface, but I never thought that 3 bodies would surface in one week.
This is sad even if its not PB!

 

[BACH50]

I think that the family most likely knows more than what the media is reporting, and if these comments and post are really being made by family members then I don't know why we are doubting them?
All along the family has had more info than the general public and these web blogs, so I don't see why their comments are not to be taken serious.

I want PB to be found alive as well, but we have discussed this issue for quite some time and we kept coming up with reasons to believe different.

We were even kind of disappointed when the search that was done a couple of weeks ago turned up negative. So what do we want, and how do we want it?
We will never get the info first hand nor exactly the way we want it.

 

[BACH50]

BB just posted about 8 minutes ago on FB to please remove the post about R.I.P.
He said "No news of death, please remove post"
This is getting really messy, and hard to bare.

 

[BACH50]

DB was posting on the prayer page a little while ago.

https://www.facebook.com/settings/?...5143042839138&id=177767702243339&notif_t=like

She mentions the last time she received a text from PB was 12:23pm and that she did talk to MJ at 7:40pm. Additionally she mentions she tried calling MJ's LB but could not reach him so someone in her family went to the homes of MJ's family and PB was not there.

I don't think she mentioned what time she called LE nor did she mention/confirm KB's earlier FB post on the pea's childrens FB page neither of them verbally spoke with PB the day she disappeared. (after leaving for work.)

Additionally DB mentioned in this thread of comments she turned down Nancy Grace because NG's show is so drama filled. I'm not sure I agree with the choice to turn down national media attention. While yes, some of NG's tactics can be drama filled, it still would be an excellent opportunity to get sooo much more media attention and the advise of some of the panelists NG has such as Mark Klaas.... I'm a bit confused on the selectiveness of the media routes the B family has chosen.

There is NO bad press for a missing persons case.

JMO

That was the most Bizarre conversation to date by DB?
DB doesn't need to speak on this case to anyone anymore.
She just makes herself look worst.
Why would she not do the NG show, and why would her family advise her not to??
If they all are really trying to do all that they can to find her, then they know very well how NG helps many cases and is the most watched for the missing.
This should have been a no brainer???
Now I am really upset with THE BARNES family, once again the appear to be more concerned with the way they are being treated than swallowing their pride and doing whatever it takes to find PB.

 

[summer_breeze]

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/blog/2011/04/two_bodies_recovered_at_conowi.html

April 20, 2011


Very short article at link

 

[Falconi]

But this person mentioned she posted about her cousin in December. Anything on Searchtastic to confirm a december post? (and isn't it a bit weird a cousin would confuse December with January since there wasn't too many days of December PB was missing. )

I thought about that too, Cubby.
Perhaps she deleted it for whatever reason. If that's the case, we won't have access.

 

[Falconi]

DB was posting on the prayer page a little while ago.

https://www.facebook.com/settings/?...5143042839138&id=177767702243339&notif_t=like

She mentions the last time she received a text from PB was 12:23pm and that she did talk to MJ at 7:40pm. Additionally she mentions she tried calling MJ's LB but could not reach him so someone in her family went to the homes of MJ's family and PB was not there.

I don't think she mentioned what time she called LE nor did she mention/confirm KB's earlier FB post on the pea's childrens FB page neither of them verbally spoke with PB the day she disappeared. (after leaving for work.)

Additionally DB mentioned in this thread of comments she turned down Nancy Grace because NG's show is so drama filled. I'm not sure I agree with the choice to turn down national media attention. While yes, some of NG's tactics can be drama filled, it still would be an excellent opportunity to get sooo much more media attention and the advise of some of the panelists NG has such as Mark Klaas.... I'm a bit confused on the selectiveness of the media routes the B family has chosen.

There is NO bad press for a missing persons case.
JMO

BBM

NG drama-filled? The FB page itself is ridden with drama, is it not? Why not choose the wider platform to get the word out about your missing sister?

I just don't get it.

Also, on this comment thread, db says that kb drove around with mj's lil brother to various j fam houses looking to see if PB was there.

I don't remember hearing/seeing that bit before.

Thank goodness for the TRUTH. It cannot and will not be suppressed forever.

 

[georgiajean]

Please keep monitoring the media you have been monitoring, and watching for any movement by the POI's.
Now is a crucial time, as the focus continues on PB. They can't hide. So keep your magnifying glasses focused and save copies of whatever you find.

 

[chasing.halos]

BBM

NG drama-filled? The FB page itself is ridden with drama, is it not? Why not choose the wider platform to get the word out about your missing sister?

I just don't get it.

(RSBM)

I am so with you. That FB page is as drama filled as a NG show IMHO. The only thing missing is the word "bombshell."

 

[Cubby]

Snippets

"The bodies are described only as a female and male, both of whom are adult-sized," Maryland State Police Spokesperson Greg Shipley said in a news release

"The bodies were in the water so long, they can't even tell if they are black or white," Baltimore Police Spokesperson Anthony Gugliemi said by phone Thursday. The bodies were also in such bad shape, dental records may not even be able to identify them, he said.

The location where the bodies were found is about 45 miles from the apartment where Barnes, 17, was last seen December 28.


Guglielmi added it was too early to determine if the body was Phylicia Barnes.

http://www.wbtv.com/story/14489206/...d-of-bodies-found-in-md-river?redirected=true

Interesting comment from Gugliemi about the dentals. the only time the coroner can not use dentals as a means to assist identifiction is if the MP's dental records are not available or if the remains found were partial remains not including the skull, jaw, teeth.

Thus far there is nothing to indicate the remains found were partial and there is no reason to believe PB's dental records are not available.

Hopefully there will be more news as the day progresses.

 

[Malini2001]

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/27624491/detail.html

"11 News I-Team lead investigative reporter Jayne Miller said a source familiar with the case said the leading clue is a distinctive tattoo.
Barnes has a tattoo of a rose on her lower right leg. The source told Miller that a similar tattoo is located on the body of the female who was pulled from the river Wednesday."

 

[chasing.halos]

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/27624491/detail.html

"11 News I-Team lead investigative reporter Jayne Miller said a source familiar with the case said the leading clue is a distinctive tattoo.
Barnes has a tattoo of a rose on her lower right leg. The source told Miller that a similar tattoo is located on the body of the female who was pulled from the river Wednesday."

(bbm)

:cry: Oh no. :cry:

While I am so very sad that this may be her, perhaps there will now be some justice for Phylicia.

 

[BACH50]

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/27624491/detail.html

"11 News I-Team lead investigative reporter Jayne Miller said a source familiar with the case said the leading clue is a distinctive tattoo.
Barnes has a tattoo of a rose on her lower right leg. The source told Miller that a similar tattoo is located on the body of the female who was pulled from the river Wednesday."

Now this report says that the bodies were both African American.
That both bodies were pulled from the dam?
Now the tattoo is mentioned?
Maybe thats why some close friends and family members were saying
RIP yesterday?
If they could still identify the tatoo, then they most likely already know
and just want to be certain.
Wow!!! This is still very sad, anyway you look at it.

 

[georgiajean]

I will be gone much of the day, but I will keep PB and her family in my thoughts. If this is PB, I hope that clues are revealed that will bring those responsible to justice.

 

[chasing.halos]

Such a beautiful girl...

http://caleintay.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Phylicia_Barnes_senior_picture-216x300.jpg

 

[BACH50]

SS posted on FB as well, (about 6hrs ago) asking people to stop the RIP comments.
She says her Mom is in pieces right now as well as herself?
Something is really going on and I think the tattoo is whats got everybody
into this freenzy?

 

[georgiajean]

Just posted MSM:
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/...ne-if-body-found-in-river-is-phylicia-barnes/

The river has been especially rough this year with rainfall. This roughness is one of the reasons the bodies are in such bad shape.

In the raging waters of the Susquehanna, near the Conowingo Dam, Maryland State Police found two bodies. They’re in bad shape, so bad police can’t tell what race they are. But they know one is a man and another is a woman.

Again, it’s too early to tell who these people are, and whether the discovery could bring one of the largest missing persons cases in Baltimore to a close.

Given all the shoddy reporting throughout this case, it is a safe bet that no one knows anything yet, for sure.