ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 1

[2girlzmm]

I was so hoping to come on here this morning and see that Ayla had been safe and sound. Praying that they find her soon!

 

[maedlamsmom]

I don't want to keep harping on the pools, but I just really hope that every neighbor has thoroughly searched their pool, including, lifting the tarps, and sifting the water, etc. Having grown up on the east coast, with a pool, I know that they get very, very murky and even if they are covered, debris from leaves, etc get caught UNDER the tarp. Many years, when we opened the pool in June, we would find some drowned rodent or once a cat. We would never have known just by looking at the pool, bc animals would get under the cover and get trapped, without even disturbing the tarp at all. I just fear that come June, some neighbor will open his pool and find something horrible and tragic.

 

[JeannieC]

Since Dad lawyered up I doubt that he will be taking a lie detector. I wonder if anyone has been asked to take one. I don't understand why LE doesn't have them take one as soon as a child goes missing before they have a chance to get a lawyer. At least they would have some idea or who knows something and who doesn't. jmo

 

[keeponsearching]

I don't want to keep harping on the pools, but I just really hope that every neighbor has thoroughly searched their pool, including, lifting the tarps, and sifting the water, etc. Having grown up on the east coast, with a pool, I know that they get very, very murky and even if they are covered, debris from leaves, etc get caught UNDER the tarp. Many years, when we opened the pool in June, we would find some drowned rodent or once a cat. We would never have known just by looking at the pool, bc animals would get under the cover and get trapped, without even disturbing the tarp at all. I just fear that come June, some neighbor will open his pool and find something horrible and tragic.

I hope they are.

 

[krimekat]

Here is the transcript from the JVM Show 12-19-11:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1112/19/ijvm.01.html
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MICHELLE SIGONA, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Here`s what I can tell you, Jane. I have a few new nuggets of information.

The first is that I spoke with a neighbor who lives on the opposite side of the street. She said that the father used to live in the home as a teenager, actually. The family purchased the house around 1999 to 2000. He lived there as a teenager, moved away. And about four to six weeks ago, he did move back. What he told the neighbors is that he was living in Portland at the time. He had come back.

Because he retained custody of Ayla & that was her mother's stipulation? Do we know what the mother was in Rehab for & how long (4 to 6 weeks)? Should we care? How much time did the father spend with Ayla prior to the mother going into Rehab? (please don't feel the need to answer these queries as I will go back to review other posts . . . I just have not found the answers yet :wink

So I am going to take this as fact: Ayla & her father lived at his mother's house with his mother, his sister & another child (younger than Ayla). They, meaning Ayla & her dad, moved there up to 6 weeks ago (2nd week of Nov).

What about the woman from Portland (dad's gf)?

But she never saw the child. The only child that the neighbor I spoke to had ever seen was of another woman who may be living in the house who has another child that`s younger, possibly younger than Ayla. So -- and so when she first heard these reports, she initially thought that it was that child that went missing.

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But a neighbor on the opposite side of the house, I guess it would be on the back side of the house from where Ayla went missing, did hear a loud noise around 3:30 in the morning. So loud, in fact, that her dog woke up and started barking. <<<snipped>>>

BBM: Lots of neighbors, good! How many neighbors did see Ayla & know about her?

:waitasec:

THANKS so much for the transcripts! I cannot stand watching/listening to HLN

 

[daisy7]

Here's the transcript of NG's show yesterday: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1112/19/ng.01.html

 

[FrayedKnot]

I was reading kinda fast trying to catch up last night, so maybe I missed it, but is there a link that clarifies what KIND of drugs mom was in rehab for abusing?

I suppose it really doesn't matter, but if she was a pothead, I don't see that particular vice as putting her in contact with the same nefarious sorts as say, if it were meth. A meth addiction would open up a whole new world of possibilities. Think Lena Lunsford and selling her children's WIC (is that right?) coupons, and IMHO, possibly sold her own child to finance her high.

MOO, but it could be a factor here.

 

[maedlamsmom]

I wonder what caused mom to decide to get help and go to rehab. And for what drug? Was she ordered by court? I know we have been told she didn't have a criminal record. Is there any situation where something wouldn't show on a record? Or was it a previous issue with CPS?

I don't mention this bc I think she had anything to do with Ayla disappearing, but just to point out that a story is being spun and we are only hearing negative comments from one side of an admittedly contentious relationship. And, seriously, what have we heard? That there were bruises that mom noted after visits with dad, but were never reported or questioned? Mom never stated that dad had an issue with drugs, and I think she would have thrown that out to further sully him if he did. I don't think mom is lying or bad, I think she is angry and confused and scared. So, I am going to try to listen to her words, but also try to understand the emotion and motivation behind those words. I want
LE to tell me something of substance about dad. Or hear from dad so that I can get a feel for him myself...

 

[krimekat]

<<<snipped>>>

Local news guy - Reiterating that neither parent has been rptd to take or been asked to take a polygraph, that LE is treating this more like an abduction than "something that justin did" (?). Stressing that Ayla wouldn't have been able to open door even if it was unlocked because of cast, per police, because she would've only been able to use one hand (left - no word on which is her dominant hand).

BBM: LE has not requested anyone to take a LDT

As far as Ayla's father retaining an atty, that is the SMART thing to do. The mother should, too.

 

[FrayedKnot]

Here's the transcript of NG's show yesterday: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1112/19/ng.01.html

Thanks for this.

So mom says Ayla usually did wake up during the night, so that was normal for her. Hmmmm. That WOULD make sleeping 12 hours straight odd for Ayla, assuming mom is telling the truth and that she isn't referring to Ayla's habits from when she was, say, 12 months old. Do we know for how much of Ayla's life mom was actually raising her? Could it be that g'ma was taking care of those daily things even before mom went to rehab?

And mom also said she would check on her ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT. Wow. That seems a bit excessive, or perhaps since she had a substance problem, it was normal for her to be up all night anyway.

Lots of little details to consider.....

 

[JeannieC]

I might have missed it but do several or a lot of the neighbors have pools? I looked on mapquest satelite view and couldn't tell if they had storage buildings or something else.

Was she sleeping in a crib or a bed? At 14 months my son could get out of his crib and he would go outside to the dog next door. As cold as it was in Maine, I wonder if she would have gone outside. Children don't seem to get cold as quickly as some of us.

I noticed a lot of wooded areas near 29 Violette. I wonder where LE has done searches so far.

 

[FrayedKnot]

BBM: LE has not requested anyone to take a LDT

As far as Ayla's father retaining an atty, that is the SMART thing to do. The mother should, too.

I know I would get an attorney ASAP! This is an investigation. I don't care if it makes me 'look' guilty.

I do get suspicious when parents lawyer up and refuse to cooperate with LE, however.

 

[maedlamsmom]

I was reading kinda fast trying to catch up last night, so maybe I missed it, but is there a link that clarifies what KIND of drugs mom was in rehab for abusing?

I suppose it really doesn't matter, but if she was a pothead, I don't see that particular vice as putting her in contact with the same nefarious sorts as say, if it were meth. A meth addiction would open up a whole new world of possibilities. Think Lena Lunsford and selling her children's WIC (is that right?) coupons, and IMHO, possibly sold her own child to finance her high.

MOO, but it could be a factor here.

I have no idea what kind of drug she went to rehab for, but few people go to treatment centers for marijuana. I did find this:

http://www.drugabusesolution.com/maine-drug-abuse-rehab/portland-maine-drug-abuse-rehab

Cocaine, primarily crack, is the predominant drug threat in Maine... Methamphetamine continues to be a major drug threat in Maine. Law enforcement reporting indicates that, in some areas, methamphetamine is replacing crack cocaine as the primary drug threat due to its availability, low cost and long lasting effects.

 

[momshrink]

After caylee, I was not going to get involved in any more missing child cases. But, I can't help being pulled in. I am so discouraged with Lisa Irwin's case. And now this beautiful child. I do not feel optimistic. I hate it when the parents and family members are so focused on defending their own behavior an pointing fingers at LE or others. There is a child missing!

I really do not think it looks good for this child. Keeping a child safe means making the child a priority and using care about who you give access to your home and your child.

 

[FrayedKnot]

I have no idea what kind of drug she went to rehab for, but few people go to treatment centers for marijuana. I did find this:

http://www.drugabusesolution.com/maine-drug-abuse-rehab/portland-maine-drug-abuse-rehab

Cocaine, primarily crack, is the predominant drug threat in Maine... Methamphetamine continues to be a major drug threat in Maine. Law enforcement reporting indicates that, in some areas, methamphetamine is replacing crack cocaine as the primary drug threat due to its availability, low cost and long lasting effects.

That is what I was afraid of/thinking. And with meth, it's not just the danger of parents being in an altered state and being neglectful or abusive, but the danger of exposing your children to a world of seedy, sketchy drug addicts and dealers.

It just opens up the possibilities and the suspect pool and IMHO, that ain't good.

 

[amymarie]

I have no idea what kind of drug she went to rehab for, but few people go to treatment centers for marijuana. I did find this:

http://www.drugabusesolution.com/maine-drug-abuse-rehab/portland-maine-drug-abuse-rehab

Cocaine, primarily crack, is the predominant drug threat in Maine... Methamphetamine continues to be a major drug threat in Maine. Law enforcement reporting indicates that, in some areas, methamphetamine is replacing crack cocaine as the primary drug threat due to its availability, low cost and long lasting effects.

I would assume she would be I rehab longer than6-8 weeks if she was I there for cocaine; unless she left early. Can anyone recover from any kind of addiction I that short amount of time? Seems so short to me. I do find it suspicious that the mom gets out of rehab, files for custody, and then all of a sudden, Ayla is missing. Seems pretty coincidental to me.

 

[Sleuthster]

I don't want to keep harping on the pools, but I just really hope that every neighbor has thoroughly searched their pool, including, lifting the tarps, and sifting the water, etc. Having grown up on the east coast, with a pool, I know that they get very, very murky and even if they are covered, debris from leaves, etc get caught UNDER the tarp. Many years, when we opened the pool in June, we would find some drowned rodent or once a cat. We would never have known just by looking at the pool, bc animals would get under the cover and get trapped, without even disturbing the tarp at all. I just fear that come June, some neighbor will open his pool and find something horrible and tragic.

I posted this on the fb page the other day, that LE should check those pools in the neighbors yards behind the house. I hope they did.

 

[Sleuthster]

I have no idea what kind of drug she went to rehab for, but few people go to treatment centers for marijuana. I did find this:

http://www.drugabusesolution.com/maine-drug-abuse-rehab/portland-maine-drug-abuse-rehab

Cocaine, primarily crack, is the predominant drug threat in Maine... Methamphetamine continues to be a major drug threat in Maine. Law enforcement reporting indicates that, in some areas, methamphetamine is replacing crack cocaine as the primary drug threat due to its availability, low cost and long lasting effects.

I doubt Marijuana also. Maine is one of the states you can get a medical license to use it.

 

[FrayedKnot]

I could be wrong about rehab, but I think it's usually 30 days unless you are paying out of pocket for private care.

I do not know the mom's financial situation but if she IS living in a motel (is that a fact or rumor?), she likely wouldn't have the money to finance a longer stay than whatever insurance would cover. If she even had insurance.:waitasec:

UNLESS... rehab was part of a court order?......does the mom have an arrest record? Could a judge in ME order rehab for 6-8 weeks? Could some of that 6-8 weeks be time she served in county lockup?

I have nothing to back this up, just trying to figure it out. MOO. Thinking out 'loud'.

 

[Sleuthster]

I could be wrong about rehab, but I think it's usually 30 days unless you are paying out of pocket for private care.

I do not know the mom's financial situation but if she IS living in a motel (is that a fact or rumor?), she likely wouldn't have the money to finance a longer stay than whatever insurance would cover. If she even had insurance.:waitasec:

UNLESS... rehab was part of a court order?......does the mom have an arrest record? Could a judge in ME order rehab for 6-8 weeks? Could some of that 6-8 weeks be time she served in county lockup?

I have nothing to back this up, just trying to figure it out. MOO. Thinking out 'loud'.

Im not real familiar /w drug rehab but I wonder if medicaid would cover over 30 days?