ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 5

[ThoughtFox]

--snipped--from above article--

Mother to take polygraph test in case of missing Ayla Reynolds

That's great news so that she can be completely ruled out.

And actually, I've never felt it was necessary because police seem to know where she was that night and believe her. I think that explains the delay in them asking her for a polygraph, but I hope this will put some of the speculation to rest about the mother having something to do with the disappearance (when she wasn't there and it wasn't her house).

 

[LvsAMystry]

Trista talks about the text messages:

Reynolds also responded to reports that DiPietro sent her a text message in the days before Ayla disappeared saying that he was worried someone might take the little girl. Reynolds said that’s a sentiment she has heard from DiPietro numerous times, including long before Ayla went missing. She said she took those statements to mean that he feared she or one of her family members would show up one day to take custody of Ayla.

How long ago was he saying things like that? Long before Ayla went missing? Like how long ago? A week? Months? That's not how I took his statements. JMO

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/01/...ygraph-test-in-case-of-missing-ayla-reynolds/

This text message thing is something that has bothered me from minute one. At first I misunderstood and thought I'd heard JD told TR about text message he'd received saying Ayla would be taken, but I came to realize no it was TR saying it was just JD saying it to her via text. If true it's disturbing bc it means he was actually already planning for Ayla to be gone. Or she already was at that point.

 

[askfornina]

Trista talks about the text messages:

Reynolds also responded to reports that DiPietro sent her a text message in the days before Ayla disappeared saying that he was worried someone might take the little girl. Reynolds said that’s a sentiment she has heard from DiPietro numerous times, including long before Ayla went missing. She said she took those statements to mean that he feared she or one of her family members would show up one day to take custody of Ayla.

How long ago was he saying things like that? Long before Ayla went missing? Like how long ago? A week? Months? That's not how I took his statements. JMO

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/01/...ygraph-test-in-case-of-missing-ayla-reynolds/

interesting. I really would like to see the actual texts. how he worded them, the context, etc.

 

[matou]

This text message thing is something that has bothered me from minute one. At first I misunderstood and thought I'd heard JD told TR about text message he'd received saying Ayla would be taken, but I came to realize no it was TR saying it was just JD saying it to her via text. If true it's disturbing bc it means he was actually already planning for Ayla to be gone. Or she already was at that point.

That's what I was thinking. Who saw Ayla that day? Who outside of the family saw Ayla and when? I think someone posted that Trista claims to have last spoken to Ayla on the phone on Dec 9th (I'll have to look for that post and link). What time did these adults go to bed? How come we don't know more of a timeline, like in the Baby Lisa case? This is really disturbing. One person lied about being there and maybe more people are lying. JMO

 

[cluciano63]

The idea of the texts is very odd...as though JD was preparing TR for Ayla to be missing? I don't know what to think. I can't think of any reason for him to be texting her things like that, when they weren't even close, except to put it in her mind that someone might take Ayla. ?

 

[matou]

The idea of the texts is very odd...as though JD was preparing TR for Ayla to be missing? I don't know what to think. I can't think of any reason for him to be texting her things like that, when they weren't even close, except to put it in her mind that someone might take Ayla. ?

Because Ayla may have already been 'gone'. I want to know how far in advance of Ayla's disappearance did she start having conversations like this (text or otherwise) with Justin. He could have planted this 'someone taking Ayla' seed in Trista's head to explain why he can't get Ayla to speak with her on the phone. JMO

 

[Donjeta]

I find many things said and done by JD and PD to not add up but to be honest the lack of date etc in terms of a visit to an ER and injury doesn't really strike me as odd. It happens that part of my job is taking statements and gathering information from ppl regarding this very same thing, injuries and related medical treatment regarding themselves or family and I'd say it's 50-50 at best on ppl remembering specifics. In many instances someone can't even remember the name of the doctor they're seeing.

JMO but I don't believe they got through the police interviews about the accident without finding out. However vague someone's memory might be in normal circumstances, if the police is asking you questions about the injury and if people are hinting on TV that there might be something shady about the way your child injured herself, most people are sure to read the statements from the various doctors they've seen to find out if they support your position. Doing this they will be reminded of the specifics.

Many people don't remember names because they don't consider them important and sometimes they never really listen to the name to begin with. I find it far less surprising than not remembering when your child hurt herself. The child's injury changes a lot of things and you would tend to remember if she was already injured before you visited aunt Edna and if she had the cast on Thanksgiving and whether she whined all night because of the pain keeping you awake the night before your job interview. The doctor's name probably makes very little difference in your daily life.

 

[cluciano63]

Because Ayla may have already been 'gone'. I want to know how far in advance of Ayla's disappearance did she start having conversations like this (text or otherwise) with Justin. He could have planted this 'someone taking Ayla' seed in Trista's head to explain why he can't get Ayla to speak with her on the phone. JMO

Either she was already "gone" or he was thinking about it...which sounds even worse. I would love to know when she was actually last seen by anyone other than JD. The not putting her on the phone bothers me...there is no reason not to hold the phone near Ayla so she can talk to her mom or hear her voice, at least. JMO

 

[askfornina]

it'll be interesting to see JD's response to the text message issue, if he responds at all.

 

[Donjeta]

If you worried that someone might abduct your baby would you sleep in the same room with her?

 

[tlcya]

it'll be interesting to see JD's response to the text message issue, if he responds at all.

Pretty sure his response will be that details about any texts should be divulged by LE or some such baloney. That seems to be the pat answer for anything he doesn' t feel like getting into with actual facts.

 

[Sparklin]

It would be strange if they remembered any old date they had lasagna for dinner several weeks ago but this was a day that legitimately stood out. It's a date that has been documented in the ER papers and a date that they would have been reminded about on each doctor's appointment. When people break their bones the recovery tends to be charted in terms of how much time it's been since the fracture. It changes things when there is some disability from the injury and for a while there is a new calendar, before and after the injury.

I still remember that when I broke my arm it was the first Tuesday in February 2002 and I had been pregnant for seven weeks and a day when it was X-rayed.

JMO but they are sure to have rehearsed the story about the accident. They went through the incident with the police several times, and I'm sure they must have thought about what to say when they agreed to give an interview about the arm.

Just jumping off your post Donjeta

Haven't LE investigated the arm incident and found no issues?? I'm sure that's what I have read/heard/seen on more than one occasion. Their relation of the fall sounds totally from beginning to end, plausible to me. Even the fact that she was more worried about JD's wrist. He probably landed trying to protect Ayla - she probably did cry originally from fright, but if she calmed when grandma picked her up, there wouldn't be a ton of concern that she had hurt herself. Not everyone runs to emergency every time a kid falls down - thank God (although you might not realize that in some of the hospitals here grrr)...
Maybe she remembers the lasagna because she knows she had to put Ayla down to check it etc...I can remember what I had for dinner the night I got the call about my sister in law having a heart attack...I had to take it out of the over (shepperds pie) to rush out...but the exact date? Not a clue! The whole situation with the arm just seems like people are trying to make something out of nothing -- as per LE.

ETA: Not to mention: http://www.kjonline.com/news/aylas-father-describes-how-she-broke-her-arm_2012-01-06.html

Justin DiPietro said he left class early because he was concerned about Ayla.

I am very sure LE could and did check THAT out!

 

[deoneta]

JVM to cover Ayla's disapperance at 7 EST on HLN. She will talk to the reporter who interviewed TR where she said "Ayla is my best friend". Jane and guests will "delve into the psychology of TR."

 

[dog.gone.cute]

HLN : JVM Issues to cover Ayla.

Her show starts in about an hour.

I will not be able to watch, if anyone else can. Also, transcripts of her show are available.

TIA !

 

[tlcya]

If you worried that someone might abduct your baby would you sleep in the same room with her?

Or be constantly checking on her to reassure yourself she is still there,safe and sound.

 

[Donjeta]

Just jumping off your post Donjeta

Haven't LE investigated the arm incident and found no issues?? I'm sure that's what I have read/heard/seen on more than one occasion. Their relation of the fall sounds totally from beginning to end, plausible to me. Even the fact that she was more worried about JD's wrist. He probably landed trying to protect Ayla - she probably did cry originally from fright, but if she calmed when grandma picked her up, there wouldn't be a ton of concern that she had hurt herself. Not everyone runs to emergency every time a kid falls down - thank God (although you might not realize that in some of the hospitals here grrr)...
Maybe she remembers the lasagna because she knows she had to put Ayla down to check it etc...I can remember what I had for dinner the night I got the call about my sister in law having a heart attack...I had to take it out of the over (shepperds pie) to rush out...but the exact date? Not a clue! The whole situation with the arm just seems like people are trying to make something out of nothing -- as per LE.

ETA: Not to mention: http://www.kjonline.com/news/aylas-father-describes-how-she-broke-her-arm_2012-01-06.html


I am very sure LE could and did check THAT out!

JMO. Even if it was a plausible story before it became suspicious the moment it was revealed that the grandma is prepared to lie that she is present in various situations if she feels it would help her children look better.

 

[Sparklin]

new article

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/01/...ke-polygraph-test-in-case-of-missing-ayla-rey

and again bad reporting:

but that investigators had not told him the results.

He never said that - he said it was irrelevant, probably because they told him he failed, even though he is positive he couldn't have. That, I guess would make what they told him irrelevant.

 

[Sparklin]

That's what I was thinking. Who saw Ayla that day? Who outside of the family saw Ayla and when? I think someone posted that Trista claims to have last spoken to Ayla on the phone on Dec 9th (I'll have to look for that post and link). What time did these adults go to bed? How come we don't know more of a timeline, like in the Baby Lisa case? This is really disturbing. One person lied about being there and maybe more people are lying. JMO

She didn't lie to the people that mattered -- LE. She didn't outright LIE to us either and state for a fact that she was there. She answered questions and left us with the impression she was there, but clarified within 24 hours...

 

[Donjeta]

She didn't lie to the people that mattered -- LE. She didn't outright LIE to us either and state for a fact that she was there. She answered questions and left us with the impression she was there, but clarified within 24 hours...

It could be why she had to clarify. On second thought they realized that if LE called her out it would look really bad.

 

[tlcya]

and again bad reporting:

He never said that - he said it was irrelevant, probably because they told him he failed, even though he is positive he couldn't have. That, I guess would make what they told him irrelevant.

Exactly. And also his insistence that whatever they told him was irrelevant as they did no show him the actual test, even though there is no way in he// he could ever have interpretted it without the proper training.

This is another reason I do not feel JD "smoked" it. Had LE told him he passed with flying colors, you can bet you bippy he'd be screaming it from the rooftops far and wide.