ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 5

[deoneta]

BBM: Exactly ... very, very CONVENIENT to NOT remember WHEN Ayla's accident occurred.

Hmmm ... "Selective Memory" ... or is it because there is SOMETHING ELSE -- like the TRUTH -- that is not being told here ?


Another thing that is CONVENIENT is remembering that they had "lasagna" for dinner. Now really ? Was that a NECESSARY detail that was IMPORTANT regarding Ayla ?

This was just another ATTEMPT by the DiPietro Family to make them look like "The Brady Bunch" when clearly they are NOT !

MOO MOO and MOO ...

BBM: I see we are on the same wavelength with the "normal" deal. I almost referenced the Cleavers, but I figured not many might remember Leave it to Beaver. All MOO

 

[Helenstreet]

I have not done this in a while, so I may not be doing this right. Sorry in advance.

I am a bus driver and I teach others to drive school buses. JD does not seem to be the type to drive a bus. So I went to the Lawrence Adult Ed site. Lawrence Adult Ed is with a group of adult ed schools. I have tried to find all those fall 2011 brochures, which I am not having much luck with. At least not what I am looking for. If you click on www.fairfield.maineadulted.org/ you will see you can sign up for other CDL classes that are for driving trucks instead of buses. I believe this may be what he was doing. Driving a school bus is a part time job for most people. We mainly hire people that are retired and moms that don't want their children to go to daycare.

PS...I drive in Illinois, so maybe they hire full time school bus drivers there. I don't know?

I don't know what happened to Ayla, I pray that they find her soon. Some one knows something and if they had any human feelings at all they would come forward and say where she is.

Thank you for your post. I had wondered the same thing regarding whether JD would have taken a course for driving trucks or other commercial vehicles instead. However, it was specifically stated that he attended classes at Lawrence Adult Education, and the class I posted the information for was the only CDL class available at that location, during that time period. All of the other CDL classes are very expensive and located elsewhere. They also require more criteria to attend, which may have possibly been an issue for JD. Besides, since he was allegedly trying to obtain permanent custody of Ayla, he may have wanted a driving job that was local and not possibly a job that put him on the road 5 days a week?

 

[menmo]

Exactly my problem. And what relative or friend in their right mind would keep her this long, with LE and FBI and whoever else searching high and low in dangerous conditions, etc.? They would end up facing some serious charges. No one would believe it was for Ayla's "benefit" at this late date.

This is either one of those rate, random kidnappings (1% chance, IMO) or something happened to Ayla in the home and there is a cover-up going on.

JMO

Unfortunately I was brought into something like this when I was 19 and married to my now thankfully ex. His family was like no other I'd ever seen or known and unfortunately I didn't realize fast enough where he came from and who he was. His cousin came to my ex BIL home with his daughter who was 2, saying that he and his wife had agreed to split and him take his daughter. I was a stay at home mom and agreed to watch this little beauty while he went out to work each day. I was livid when I found out he took her without a court order or the mom's permission. I talked to my mom and dad about what to do and they said I had to tell, so I did. He didn't do anything illegal but still...I wanted no part of it. I was a mom and could only imagine what that would feel like.
So some families surely know that people are doing this illegally and I can see them going along with it. However, with her being all over the news I can't imagine what type of person would continue helping this way. I just don't believe Ayla is safe and being cared for.

PD's initial statements to the press implying she was present in the home that night and description of a "normal" evening that were later changed to indicate she was not there at all really hurt the family's credibility for me.

This goes way beyond clarification. This is a complete change in story.

I am left now to wonder. Why that lie? Why not the LE has asked me not to discuss the evening one? Was she trying to protect jd from something? What did this mother think her son needed protecting from?

This thing here, above all of jp' s self serving statements, really bothers me the most.

Exactly and why did PD come out stating the truth at the time she did?
Self serving reasons in my opinion.

MOO

 

[katydid23]

katy, I think you've made some very good points about why Phoebe stepped in and wanted Ayla in her son's custody. Trista even seemed comforted in knowing that Ayla would be under Phoebe's watchful eye. That is Trista's frustration, that she has voiced. Why wasn't Phoebe in the home the night Ayla disappeared, why did she initially lie about it, and why has she continued to defend her son rather than demand the truth about what happened in her absence? If I were Phoebe and had nothing to hide, I'd be livid.

When the truth came out about her not being in the home that night, it knocked me off the fence.:fencefall: While I fully understand WHY she may have wanted her granddaughter in her care, I do not understand why she was not in the home that night. Fir all we know she has a boyfriend and NEVER lives in that home anymore.
Her initial lie was to protect her son, imo. She clearly did not want anyone to suspect him of anything and if he was home watching tv with his mom and sister then he seemed harmless. So she lied to cover that up. And maybe to protect her own arse because the agreement was that he lived at home WITH HER.
However I still have a sliver of suspicion around the Reynold's family circle.

 

[cluciano63]

My feeling is that up until JD moved into his mother's house, he was probably living with his girlfriend in a casual manner, perhaps with others, one that did not present as a good living situation for Ayla, so he had to move back in her in order to make it look good for CPS. Maybe I am wrong, but I have not heard of any apartment or job that he held prior to moving home, in his name? And Mom may have agreed in theory to use her home as the permanent, "respectable" address for Ayla's purposes, without really knowing JD's lifestlye, friends, etc. JMOJMOJMO

 

[dog.gone.cute]

BBM: I see we are on the same wavelength with the "normal" deal. I almost referenced the Cleavers, but I figured not many might remember Leave it to Beaver. All MOO

:seeya: Yep ... we are on the same "wavelength" ...

LOL ... the Cleavers ... omg ... could you just see the "Beaver" coming home and telling Mr. Cleaver that he "smoked a test" ... :floorlaugh:

Now, "Eddie Haskel" -- yes ... the "Beaver" -- no ... :floorlaugh:

:innocent: Just making an analogy here ...

:innocent:

 

[tamild]

It's funny how we can all look at a set of circumstances and see things differently. For instance, I would find it suspicious if JDs family COULD give exact dates and times of events. It would make me think they were crafting an alibi or had rehearsed their stories beforehand. JMO

Also, I don't find it suspicious that the family recalled having lasagna that night. That may have been the whole reason Justin fell with Ayla in the first place...he was carrying the lasagna ingredients.

JMO

 

[Donjeta]

It's funny how we can all look at a set of circumstances and see things differently. For instance, I would find it suspicious if JDs family COULD give exact dates and times of events. It would make me think they were crafting an alibi or had rehearsed their stories beforehand. JMO

Also, I don't find it suspicious that the family recalled having lasagna that night. That may have been the whole reason Justin fell with Ayla in the first place...he was carrying the lasagna ingredients.

JMO

It would be strange if they remembered any old date they had lasagna for dinner several weeks ago but this was a day that legitimately stood out. It's a date that has been documented in the ER papers and a date that they would have been reminded about on each doctor's appointment. When people break their bones the recovery tends to be charted in terms of how much time it's been since the fracture. It changes things when there is some disability from the injury and for a while there is a new calendar, before and after the injury.

I still remember that when I broke my arm it was the first Tuesday in February 2002 and I had been pregnant for seven weeks and a day when it was X-rayed.

JMO but they are sure to have rehearsed the story about the accident. They went through the incident with the police several times, and I'm sure they must have thought about what to say when they agreed to give an interview about the arm.

 

[Helenstreet]

It would be strange if they remembered any old date they had lasagna for dinner several weeks ago but this was a day that legitimately stood out. It's a date that has been documented in the ER papers and a date that they would have been reminded about on each doctor's appointment. When people break their bones the recovery tends to be charted in terms of how much time it's been since the fracture. It changes things when there is some disability from the injury and for a while there is a new calendar, before and after the injury.

I still remember that when I broke my arm it was the first Tuesday in February 2002 and I had been pregnant for seven weeks and a day when it was X-rayed.

JMO but they are sure to have rehearsed the story about the accident. They went through the incident with the police several times, and I'm sure they must have thought about what to say when they agreed to give an interview about the arm.

I just have to say, what a FANTASTIC post! You articulated so very well what I glued into about JD's whole account regarding Ayla's arm injury. I sincerely hope that law enforcement went back to the alleged dates of his purported CDL classes and Ayla's arm injury and noticed the glaring inconsistencies in his "story". Because they were likely more focused on the present situation with Ayla's disappearance, it is possible that they don't have the information regarding JD's classes. For all anyone's knows, JD could have even waited longer than 24 hours to have Ayla seen by a doctor for her arm injury. I absolutely do not believe for one minute that JD doesn't remember what day it was that Ayla's injury occurred. Again, thank you for a great post.

 

[deoneta]

I do find it odd that nobody remembers the date of the accident, but it's not so much that I find it odd that they remembered the lasagna but that it was included in the story. For me, being so specific on unimportant detaills while so vague on the major issues equals rehearsal and/or a deliberate effort to hide some facts while creating the illusion that all was "normal". All MOO.

 

[Helenstreet]

Does anybody on here have a good, reliable source for what the weather in Waterville, Maine was like on October 26, 2011? Was it a rainy day? I would also be curious to know what time sunset was for that day as well. Thanks in advance!

 

[Caligram]

The most troublesome part in JD's stories is the timing. Ayla had an appointment with a bone specialist on Friday 12/16. JD told TR on the evening of 12/15 that he wasn't going to bring Ayla to that appointment. Was the reason he wouldn't let TR see or even speak to her daughter that Ayla wasn't there any longer. Something happened to Ayla and he couldn't produce her? Children go missing during the night more often nowadays. It’s a common occurrence. So how hard is it to understand what JD did next. On 12/17 JD reported that Ayla was missing. Why did PD back out of "pretending" she was there, as usual. on the evening of 12/16 when Ayla was put to bed at 8pm by her father. What prompted PD to set the record straight, that she wasn't there during the time Ayla "disappeared". Is it because PD is afraid that she could be charged with aiding /abetting.
Ayla most likely wasn't physically there on 12/16 but Ayla had been scheduled for an important doctor appointment on that day. Where was Ayla? JD knows because he is the one who filed the abduction claim on 12/17. He wasn't going to be able to cover for Ayla's absence from the home much longer. He could not continue to stall TR, who kept asking to speak to Ayla. What really happened to Ayla.? How long has Ayla really been absent from that home? No wonder LE has not been successful in their land and water searches. Ayla has been gone too long. Does JD think he can just get on with his life now, without the burden of a child, and being held legally responsible for child support. Nah, that sounds too easy.

IMHO

 

[naturallyme]

new article

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/01/...ke-polygraph-test-in-case-of-missing-ayla-rey

 

[tamild]

It would be strange if they remembered any old date they had lasagna for dinner several weeks ago but this was a day that legitimately stood out. It's a date that has been documented in the ER papers and a date that they would have been reminded about on each doctor's appointment. When people break their bones the recovery tends to be charted in terms of how much time it's been since the fracture. It changes things when there is some disability from the injury and for a while there is a new calendar, before and after the injury.

I still remember that when I broke my arm it was the first Tuesday in February 2002 and I had been pregnant for seven weeks and a day when it was X-rayed.

JMO but they are sure to have rehearsed the story about the accident. They went through the incident with the police several times, and I'm sure they must have thought about what to say when they agreed to give an interview about the arm.

Thank you for your reply, Donjeta! I hear what you are saying, and I agree with your assessment, but I guess I'm confused as to what you feel it implies with regard this circumstance. Do you feel that the family was lying about the date of the injury? And if so, to whom?

 

[lauriej]

new article

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/01/...ke-polygraph-test-in-case-of-missing-ayla-rey

--snipped--from above article--

Mother to take polygraph test in case of missing Ayla Reynolds

The mother of Ayla Reynolds said reports last week that Ayla’s father, Justin DiPietro, took a polygraph test administered by investigators has heightened her doubt about whether DiPietro is telling the truth. Trista Reynolds also said she and others in her family are arranging with investigators to take their own polygraph tests.

“When I go, you best believe I’m going to tell everyone out there the results,” said Reynolds, who added that some of her family members also are expected to take polygraph tests. “I have been offering to take a polygraph test since Day One.”

 

[Donjeta]

Thank you for your reply, Donjeta! I hear what you are saying, and I agree with your assessment, but I guess I'm confused as to what you feel it implies with regard this circumstance. Do you feel that the family was lying about the date of the injury? And if so, to whom?

I don't know but I think that the doctors at the ER would probably have noticed the difference if it was a very much older injury than 24 hours. I'm not sure if they could tell the difference between a day or two but if it's had time to begin to heal they would know from the X-rays I think.

Mostly I'm not sure if PDP was there even though she claims she was. Keeping the date vague could keep someone from saying, hey, wait a minute, I know where she was that night and she wasn't home observing Ayla get hurt. Or maybe someone knows that Justin wasn't home having a wholesome family dinner on that date.

 

[matou]

Trista talks about the text messages:

Reynolds also responded to reports that DiPietro sent her a text message in the days before Ayla disappeared saying that he was worried someone might take the little girl. Reynolds said that’s a sentiment she has heard from DiPietro numerous times, including long before Ayla went missing. She said she took those statements to mean that he feared she or one of her family members would show up one day to take custody of Ayla.

How long ago was he saying things like that? Long before Ayla went missing? Like how long ago? A week? Months? That's not how I took his statements. JMO

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/01/...ygraph-test-in-case-of-missing-ayla-reynolds/

 

[LvsAMystry]

It would be strange if they remembered any old date they had lasagna for dinner several weeks ago but this was a day that legitimately stood out. It's a date that has been documented in the ER papers and a date that they would have been reminded about on each doctor's appointment. When people break their bones the recovery tends to be charted in terms of how much time it's been since the fracture. It changes things when there is some disability from the injury and for a while there is a new calendar, before and after the injury.

I still remember that when I broke my arm it was the first Tuesday in February 2002 and I had been pregnant for seven weeks and a day when it was X-rayed.

JMO but they are sure to have rehearsed the story about the accident. They went through the incident with the police several times, and I'm sure they must have thought about what to say when they agreed to give an interview about the arm.

I find many things said and done by JD and PD to not add up but to be honest the lack of date etc in terms of a visit to an ER and injury doesn't really strike me as odd. It happens that part of my job is taking statements and gathering information from ppl regarding this very same thing, injuries and related medical treatment regarding themselves or family and I'd say it's 50-50 at best on ppl remembering specifics. In many instances someone can't even remember the name of the doctor they're seeing.

 

[LvsAMystry]

I don't know but I think that the doctors at the ER would probably have noticed the difference if it was a very much older injury than 24 hours. I'm not sure if they could tell the difference between a day or two but if it's had time to begin to heal they would know from the X-rays I think.

Mostly I'm not sure if PDP was there even though she claims she was. Keeping the date vague could keep someone from saying, hey, wait a minute, I know where she was that night and she wasn't home observing Ayla get hurt. Or maybe someone knows that Justin wasn't home having a wholesome family dinner on that date.

You are exactly right that doctors can determine a fracture that may have healed for a bit rather than just happened. In the healing process calcium deposits show on the xrays at the area of the break but these only show after a few days healing. This is why you hear of so many ppl having clean no break xrays only to find a few days later it actually is a fracture once the healing process starts

 

[tamild]

Mostly I'm not sure if PDP was there even though she claims she was. Keeping the date vague could keep someone from saying, hey, wait a minute, I know where she was that night and she wasn't home observing Ayla get hurt. Or maybe someone knows that Justin wasn't home having a wholesome family dinner on that date.

Thank you! Now I get it. It's not so much the date that's at issue but allowing that date to be made public. Makes perfect sense to me now.