ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 7

[Adrienne37]

I dont think we can sleuth JDs girlfriends sister but i wonder how or what led to the oxy bust....did someone in DPs family have anything to do with her arrest? Perhaps something happened to Alya in retalation....jmo....

The mods gave us permission to sleuth Courtney Roberts. There are a few posts down in the parking lot with her FB and MS accounts, etc.

 

[tamild]

I don't understand the coyness about whether or not the blood was cleaned up. If it was more than a small cut would produce, and it wasn't cleaned up, it would be visible to the naked eye, no Luminol required to perceive it, right?

Thank you for the transcripts! Like you, I'm trying to get to the bottom of what he is (or isn't) saying. It sure sounds like there was a cleaned up. I suppose it's possible that some blood was visible like on the concrete, walls, floor joists (ceiling), and that other blood was present-just not immediately visible. Maybe a dark colored rug or something? Since, if I'm reading correctly, they have identified some of both the visible and non-visible blood as being Ayla's, wouldn't that indicate that they had a sample to test? In other words, if the non-visible blood wasn't there because it had been cleaned up, would they have enough trace left to make a match to Ayla?

 

[Donjeta]

Here is what I don't understand. If this is true about the splatter, how is it they these people (the 3 adults in the home) are not in the very least POI's yet? I mean, it fairly obvious that they lied to LE initially about the abduction, that becomes more and more clear every day (and I'm sure LE came to that conclusion even before the public did). What possible explanation could JD come up with that would explain blood splatter from a toddler? I think the fact that half of it was concealed is even more damning, because it goes to some sort of cover up.

Were cadaver/bloodhound dogs every brought in? Did they hit on anything?

JMO, of course they are POI's, even if LE isn't saying so.

 

[Chablis]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/30/ng.01.html

NG transcript
A lesson in logic and McCausland quotes:




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I don't understand the coyness about whether or not the blood was cleaned up. If it was more than a small cut would produce, and it wasn't cleaned up, it would be visible to the naked eye, no Luminol required to perceive it, right?

So in the 2 months she was with "daddy" how many cuts to her skin did she have, not counting a broken arm that did not happen in the basement, even though whatever happened to Ayla probably did happen down there.

 

[Donjeta]

So in the 2 months she was with "daddy" how many cuts to her skin did she have, not counting a broken arm that did not happen in the basement, even though whatever happened to Ayla probably did happen down there.

I don't know but I think when she was in the ER with the broken arm they probably would have taken note of any other visible injuries if they were doing their job properly.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

You know, I think you are right. I can definately see some dried blood on his lip and also some bruising across the bridge of his nose, as if he had recently had it broken. Was he recently in a fight? Is this why he waited those first two weeks to make a public appearance? Was it waiting for his face to heal rather than emotional turmoil like he claimed?

BBM: Yes, I saw "something" on the lip ... I wonder if there were any cuts/bruises on his hands or the rest of his body ? And I sure hope LE checked this out ...

JMO .. but I don't think Justin wanted to make ANY public appearances -- he is a COWARD ... that's why his earlier "appearances" were WRITTEN statements ...

MOO ...

 

[tehcloser]

I see what looks to be a bruise on his nose. I also know from having little ones sometimes you may get whacked on the nose by a toy...I wonder if that's what happened and he "lost it" and hit her back?

 

[Donjeta]

My two eldest children both gave me a cut lip that required stitches when the toddler was in my lap or we were lying next to each other. Suddenly the child threw his/her head back and my teeth cut through the flesh. Ouch.

 

[krisycrnch]

"The state crime lab confirms some of the blood samples are Ayla's,"
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/29/justice/maine-missing-toddler/?hpt=us_c2

So who does the rest of the blood belong to ? Why were there so many samples in a basement of more than one person. And please forgive me if I've missed something but was there a statement saying the blood was spattered ?

 

[tehcloser]

If he got whacked in his nose...maybe the other blood is his?

 

[Donjeta]

"The state crime lab confirms some of the blood samples are Ayla's,"
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/29/justice/maine-missing-toddler/?hpt=us_c2

So who does the rest of the blood belong to ? Why were there so many samples in a basement of more than one person. And please forgive me if I've missed something but was there a statement saying the blood was spattered ?

Has it been confirmed that some of the blood samples are someone else's?

Some could just be untested for the time being.

 

[tamild]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/30/ng.01.html

Stephen, is there any link to the fact that the mom went to court the day before to try to get full custody of the baby girl? Did the daddy know that?

MCCAUSLAND: Dad did not know that at all.

Just wondering how they know that Justin didn't know. If this is true, the timing of Ayla's "disappearance" and the court filing was just coincidence?

 

[tamild]

Has it been confirmed that some of the blood samples are someone else's?

Some could just be untested for the time being.

Sound that way to me, also. Plus, luminol reacts with so many different things that some of the samples may not even be blood. It's going to take a excruciatingly long time for them to process it all. In the mean time, it looks like LE isn't willing to give up any info concerning location or pattern.

 

[deoneta]

"The state crime lab confirms some of the blood samples are Ayla's,"
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/29/justice/maine-missing-toddler/?hpt=us_c2

So who does the rest of the blood belong to ? Why were there so many samples in a basement of more than one person. And please forgive me if I've missed something but was there a statement saying the blood was spattered ?

There is no official statement from McClausland that there is spatter, splatter or cleanup. Several reports, including the one from the boston tv station which was removed attributes spatter or cleanup to unnamed LE sources. I don't think the other blood necessarily belongs to other people, only that the test results are incomplete so it's not known at this point. All MOO.

 

[cityslick]

There is no official statement from McClausland that there is spatter, splatter or cleanup. Several reports, including the one from the boston tv station which was removed attributes spatter or cleanup to unnamed LE sources. I don't think the other blood necessarily belongs to other people, only that the test results are incomplete so it's not known at this point. All MOO.

I think folks jump to the word 'cleanup' because it was stated that not all the blood was visible and if it wasn't all visible, that gives an indication that it may have been cleaned up, obviously not good enough though.

 

[Donjeta]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/30/ng.01.html

Stephen, is there any link to the fact that the mom went to court the day before to try to get full custody of the baby girl? Did the daddy know that?

MCCAUSLAND: Dad did not know that at all.

Just wondering how they know that Justin didn't know. If this is true, the timing of Ayla's "disappearance" and the court filing was just coincidence?

Maybe not a complete coincidence, if some of the speculation happened to be correct.

I mean, if Ayla had really been "missing" for a while and it was the reason for missing the doctor's appointment and preventing Trista from seeing or talking to Ayla and if those problems were among the reasons Trista filed for custody there would be a connection between the disappearance and the custody filing although less straight forward than "oh, she filed for custody, I'll make Ayla vanish".

I don't know when Trista and Justin last spoke before Ayla disappeared but he might have sensed something in her voice and realized he couldn't put the inevitable off much longer, he'd have to report her missing or Trista would do something.

 

[Thinker Belle]

Police investigating the disappearance of Maine toddler Ayla Reynolds have turned their focus to the three adults who were in the home with the girl the night she was last seen, saying that the evidence doesn't point to an abduction.

In what is being called the most intense investigation launched in Maine within the last decade, state police are now saying they believe the adults inside the house the night baby Ayla disappeared know more than what they're saying. Investigators are dismissing the basic premise that Ayla's father Justin DiPietro has suggested all along that his 20-month-old was abducted on Dec. 17. DiPietro had reported her missing that day.

"We have searched that home and we have found not one piece of evidence to lead us to believe Ayla was abducted," Steve McCausland, spokesman for the Maine Department of Public Safety said. "We think one or all three of the adults have info they haven't told us and we need that info in order to find Ayla."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ayla-reyno...ts-missing-tot/story?id=15477408#.TygApdWwWss

 

[deoneta]

JMO, of course they are POI's, even if LE isn't saying so.

Yes, they definitely are the focus of the investigation. I did some reading the other night about naming suspects and POIs, statements from both trial attorneys and LE. Trial attorneys are saying that POI is simply another word for suspect and carries the same weight as far as being possibly defamatory, ruining the lives of innocent people, etc. From the LE standpoint, several LE officials indicated that once a person is a named suspect, they no longer feel free to question that person without Mirandizing. There seems to be no set law or procedure on the subject. All MOO.

 

[Chablis]

Did the "daddy" call the mother before he called cops to report her missing?

 

[ThoughtFox]

POI or Not: Whatever you want to call the three people inside the house that night, we know LE isn't looking anywhere else.

And the fact that LE is saying that they aren't telling what they know makes them POIs anyway. Meaning, LE wants them to talk and soon.

I never really get the importance of being "labeled" a POI or Suspect, because LE hardly ever says that one way or another. You just have to look at who is under pressure.

In almost every case, it's obvious from the get-go where the focus of the investigation is going to be. In this case, it's just logical that if a child disappears from inside a house, the people in that house are under investigation.