ME - Lewiston, Mass Shooting, Multiple Scenes - Oct 2023

[dyhu]

Updates

 

[nightowl1975]

What? I seriously don’t understand. Links?

Track back to Betty’s article that I quoted. It gives info on several of the victims. One was a well known deaf man. Another a well known sign language interpreter.

Several other posts have included links to the Daily Mail article where the sister in law of the shooter was interviewed saying the shooter started hearing voices when he recently got new high powered hearing aids.

Way too coincidental to be believable that it was random.

 

[truetexan]

It cannot be a coincidence that he started hearing things when he got these high powered hearing aids and several of the victims were part of the deaf community. They had to be known to the shooter, right? Too big of a coincidence that he just happened to recently need hearing aids and ended up shooting a group of deaf people.

Intresting. My husband is a Vet with hearing aids. He does get feedback sometimes. Not often but has happened.

 

[Irishknit]

If I remember correctly, during the PA search, Border Patrol has the planes with infrared technology, which is why they are now involved.

 

[ifimmurderedjoedidit]

CNN is still reporting that he’s a certified firearm instructor. Wasn’t that said to be incorrect?

 

[dyhu]

CNN is still reporting that he’s a certified firearm instructor. Wasn’t that said to be incorrect?

he was an army reserve i thought????

 

[nightowl1975]

Again, can you please support this with links to LE or MSM? Thank you.

I was typing my reply as fast as my fat fingers allowed. Patience, grasshopper.

 

[cujenn81]

Again, can you please support this with links to LE or MSM? Thank you.

Family of Maine shooting suspect says his mental health had deteriorated rapidly

Robert Card’s sister-in-law said relatives contacted his Army Reserve unit and police after he began hearing voices.

www.nbcnews.com

Robert Card, 40, a firearms instructor and longtime member of the Army Reserve, began to hear voices that were saying “horrible” things about him a couple of months ago when he was fitted for high-powered hearing aids, said Katie Card, who is married to his brother.

“He was picking up voices that he had never heard,” she told NBC News. “His mind was twisting them around. He was humiliated by the things that he thought were being said.”

Lewiston, Maine mass shooting victims: Youth bowling coach, Schemengees Bar & Grill manager among victims | abc7chicago.com

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abc7chicago.com

Steven Vozzella was among the victims killed at the Schemengees Bar & Grill, his family said. He was part of a gathering of Deaf people playing cornhole.

 

[Chimera]

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Maine Shooting Roils ‘Tight-Knit’ Deaf Community After Members Are Massacred

Photo Illustration by Thomas Levinson/The Daily Beast/Getty/New England Bowling/FacebookA tight-knit deaf community in Maine is reeling after its members were revealed to be among those gunned down at a popular bar in Lewiston, Maine, on Wednesday night, where cops say the Army reservist Robert...

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A tight-knit deaf community in Maine is reeling after its members were revealed to be among those gunned down at a popular bar in Lewiston, Maine, on Wednesday night, where cops say the Army reservist and firearms expert Robert Card went on a rampage that left a combined 18 people dead at two crime scenes.
The organization American Deaf Cornhole confirmed its members were having a tournament Wednesday night when shots rang out at Schemengees Bar and Grill. In a statement, it said it sends its “deepest condolences” to everyone impacted, “especially our deaf cornhole players who lost their family/friends.”

Family Reveals Suspected Gunman’s Link to Maine Massacre Sites

Other deaf men confirmed to be killed during the cornhole tournament were Steve Vozzella, Bryan McFarlane, and Bill Bracket. Vozzella’s wife, Megan, told USA Today that the cornhole tournament had 10 participants. If that number is correct, at least half of the men attending were struck by gunfire.

It sounds like a fun 'game night' that maybe RC (suspect) knew was planned in advance ?
Premeditation, for starters.
If RC's taken alive he will spend the rest of his life in a cell, and deservedly so.
Omo.

Eta : I've never heard of this game before.
One of my coworkers' daughter is deaf. She is a bright and compassionate young lady.
How unspeakably cruel of RC to target people who were just living their best lives.

 

[SkyBoomer]

he was an army reserve i thought????

I believe that is correct. Some sort of petroleum supply position?

 

[dyhu]

I believe that is correct. Some sort of petroleum supply position?

correct.

 

[vls12345]

For those discussing the deaf victims and RC's hearing aids, I did a post with links earlier.

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[Inthedetails]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> ... here are some links:

"Card, a firearms instructor and a longtime Army reservist, began to hear voices that were saying 'horrible' things about him about a couple of months ago when he was fitted for high-powered hearing aids, according to Katie Card, who is married to his brother."

Police identify 40-year-old man as person of interest in mass shooting in Lewiston, Maine

He “should be considered armed and dangerous,” the Lewiston, Maine, police department said.

www.nbcnews.com

"American Deaf Cornhole (ADC) has sent its 'deepest condolences' to families in Maine, after some of its members were reportedly caught up in the Maine shootings on Wednesday evening. The organisation, which puts on tournaments of the beanbag game across the country for the Deaf community, urged its members to come together and support one another in the wake of the tragedy."

Heartbreaking details emerge about deaf community event in Lewiston shooting

‘We are deeply saddened by last night’s events in Lewiston, Maine and are grieving the losses suffered by the community - cornhole and non alike’

au.news.yahoo.com

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Hearing voices, especially those that seem to either tell you to do things or voices that bash you are usually associated with a variety of mental disorders like schizophrenia. However, it has been noted that hearing aids can have the ability to pick up radio frequencies sometimes. People who start wearing hearing aids after being hard of hearing for quite a while, all of a sudden start hearing noises that have been missing. Humans use all their senses to gather information so when one sense suddenly starts working again hearing sounds missing for awhile the brain tries to assign patterns to random noises. It's called auditory pareidolia. But I believe RC's issue is related to mental illness.

This is an excellent explanation.

 

[dyhu]

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[whitelilac]

Smith said the suspect’s car had been discovered by a boat launch near the Androscoggin River, which connects to the Kennebec, and his 15-foot boat remains unaccounted for.

Coast Guard searches by boat as Maine shooting suspect remains at large

So his boat is indeed missing.....
car at boat ramp, rivers....he could be anywhere by now.
He will need food and water. I worry about any inhabited cabins or homes along the shores.

 

[steeltowngirl]

CNN is still reporting that he’s a certified firearm instructor. Wasn’t that said to be incorrect?

Other media and a person who served with him also reporting that he was a firearms instructor.

Card, who has been enlisted in the U.S. Army Reserve since December 2002, and was most recently a petroleum supply specialist who had no combat deployments, a spokesperson for the force said.

He was reportedly a trained firearms instructor and, according to Clifford Steeves, who served alongside Card in the early 2000s, was one of the best shooters in their unit.

He was “very comfortable in the woods,” Steeves told CNN, adding that he never witnessed any concerning behavior from Card, who he described as a “very nice guy—very quiet.”

His awards include the Army Achievement Medal, two Army Reserve Component Achievement Medals, the Humanitarian Service Medal, the National Defense Service Medal and an Army Service Ribbon, according to The Messenger’s national security and military reporter Jim LaPorta, who characterized those awards as fairly standard, unremarkable achievements for a reservist.

Maine Massacre Suspect Is Firearms Expert Who Had Alarmed His Co-Workers

Robert Card, a 40-year-old Army marksman with survival skills, had acted “violently” towards co-workers at a recycling plant, a colleague said.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[SkyBoomer]

So his boat is indeed missing.....
car at boat ramp, rivers....he could be anywhere by now.
He will need food and water. I worry about any inhabited cabins or homes along the shores.

I’ve said before (not that my doofy opinion matters, lol) but I think the killer is deceased.

My heart hurts for these families who have to bury their loved ones because we think people are expendable.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

So his boat is indeed missing.....
car at boat ramp, rivers....he could be anywhere by now.
He will need food and water. I worry about any inhabited cabins or homes along the shores.

"So his boat is indeed missing"
It's a SeaDoo, right? I mean, how far can you go on a SeaDoo? It's not like a boat with a big gas tank.

 

[Shamrock1]

It cannot be a coincidence that he started hearing things when he got these high powered hearing aids and several of the victims were part of the deaf community. They had to be known to the shooter, right? Too big of a coincidence that he just happened to recently need hearing aids and ended up shooting a group of deaf people.

Doesn’t seem related at all. There’s a huge difference between being one of many people who wear hearing aids and actually being a part of the local Deaf community. JMO.