GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #4

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Ibiz said:
One thing I'd like to point out to you guys is: I realize there might be more than one suspect involved in this crime. But, when listening to the PC, I heard the Sheriff use the praise "THE KILLER." Also when he said this he seemed to magnify the word "THE", meaning that he MIGHT THINK there is only one perpetrator responsible for this crime. I know he did make other references to they or these suspects in other forms, but I'm just saying that there is a good possibility that there is one lone perpetrator that murdered CB.

I know when I write stuff I say stuff like "SUSPECT(s)," meaning that as far as I'm concerned there could be more than one.

But as far as a Devil worshiping cult or anything like that, I highly disagree.
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Thanks for your post. During the presser, it was also made clear that residents of Monroe County are not in danger and that the county has a very low crime rate. I took this to mean that they don't think there's a serial killer out there preying on young women. Chelsea's death was an isolated crime that will be solved.
 
Ibiz said:
One thing I'd like to point out to you guys is: I realize there might be more than one suspect involved in this crime. But, when listening to the PC, I heard the Sheriff use the praise "THE KILLER." Also when he said this he seemed to magnify the word "THE", meaning that he MIGHT THINK there is only one perpetrator responsible for this crime. I know he did make other references to they or these suspects in other forms, but I'm just saying that there is a good possibility that there is one lone perpetrator that murdered CB.

I know when I write stuff I say stuff like "SUSPECT(s)," meaning that as far as I'm concerned there could be more than one.

But as far as a Devil worshiping cult or anything like that, I highly disagree.
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Agreed, though there were some crazy looking people at the party that night and a pretty "intense" band, playing, I HIGHLY doubt it was "ritualistic/satanic" type of deal. I think a lot of people are influenced onj the type of party and band it was, giving everything a "satanic" type edge. Ive seen a lot of speculation on here based on the fact there was a "scary" looking and sounding band and "different" type people that it must be some "ritualistic" influence on the crime. Just because of the party and band, you can't really paint everybody with that type of brush and have it influence your thoughts about what happened. I mean, Chelsea WAS there and a fan ofof the band, and I think we'd all agree that Chelsea is not that "type" of person! Possible? Yes. Likely? No.

As of now, I'm thinking it is just some degenrate, loser, who probably thinks more of himself than he should and looked at Chelsea as an easy mark. The time, setting and situation was perfect for him. It was either somebody she kind of knew (not necessarily a good friend or in the same immediate circle) and was aquianted with, or somebody she had met that night and thought was nice, cool and helpful enough to simply drop her off at home or her friends. And he took advantage of a situation where he thought he could maybe get this girl he met at the party to sleep with him, she wouldn't and it went south immediately. Something along those lines.

Obviously though, ANYTHING is still plausible at this point.
 
I do keep on flip-flopping over whether this was one person or a few people. Just not enough info for me I guess. In the end, I would not be surprised if after the initial arrest, other people go down for lying and trying to protect the suspect even if they weren't present.
 
Hound_Dog said:
Sorry - I usually try to post the link and yes it came from MN (Monroe News) - I had reservations about posting it at all - the link got kicked off at the last minute sorry you had to go fishing for it!
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I didn't have to go searching because I had just finished reading the article. Thus, I added it here. My first thought was whether it could be related, but I doubt it after reading about the space heaters.


Chelsea's story is on Nancy Grace right now. I just flipped to the channel, so I don't know if it started at the half-hour or if anything was said before I got there. Nothing new that I have heard, though.
 
I can't even imagine how difficult this is for Chelsea's family and friends. her mother seems so strong. prayers and thoughts are with you.
 
I, too, listened to Nancy Grace tonight. She made a big deal about how many registered sex offenders live in Newport, MI. I really had no idea and I live here.

I have a co-worker who lives only one mile away from where Chelsea was found. I knew she lived in the country near Carleton, but had no idea exactly where until today.
She did say she has always found the area to be very quiet and has never felt unsafe, but it is, as we all know, very isolated. She agreed a car could drive along the tracks, no problem. I have more questions for her when I see her tomorrow.
 
Green-Eyed Blonde said:
I, too, listened to Nancy Grace tonight. She made a big deal about how many registered sex offenders live in Newport, MI. I really had no idea and I live here.

I have a co-worker who lives only one mile away from where Chelsea was found. I knew she lived in the country near Carleton, but had no idea exactly where until today.
She did say she has always found the area to be very quiet and has never felt unsafe, but it is, as we all know, very isolated. She agreed a car could drive along the tracks, no problem. I have more questions for her when I see her tomorrow.
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Thank you, what a great perspective. With the chill in the air, homes were likely closed up, those that live near the tracks have probably conditioned themselves to tune out the sound of trains, and the area was far enough from the homes on the other side of the tracks.

I share the same thoughts many of you have expressed upthread and think the tracks whether by car or some other vehicle; was the means of getting her to that location.
 
Being from the area, I do not see it realistic that she ran from flat rock to the site of her body. Unless she did and collapsed somewhere along the way and was brought into the woods afterwards. If that did happen, going straight down the tracks would be the most obvious and straight route, but still far for someone that has been out all night, in the pitch dark, and whatever else may have happened... Drinking. Drugs. Assault. Abuse. Tiredness.

If the perp knew the area as well as is being assumed, they may have known of that field in flat rock as being fenced off and not frequented by many. Then they would just have to drive up the tracks, if that was the case, or take other roads, approach the field and pitch the items. We don't know how far into the field the costume was found. It could have been in those buildings and you could pretty much do that from the side of the road. If it was further in the field, one could easily run in, toss them, and take off in a car without being noticed. I wouldn't doubt that we eventually hear the person responsible knows that area very well. I've lived here all my life and frequented roads near both sites and barely noticed some of these side roads before. Meaning unless I knew they were there or had a purpose for driving on it, I wouldn't just go there on my drive somewhere else.... If that makes sense. They knew where they were headed in my opinion and I feel there will be a close connection between these areas. Or then again it could be pure coincidence ...

Also in the press conference, they mention that since Easter other evidence has been found and identified outside of/in Monroe county. I know several of us have our suspicions and theories of who could be involved. It throws my mind in 100 directions any time I hear more relating to Carleton, flat rock, and the area.


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Ibiz said:
One thing I'd like to point out to you guys is: I realize there might be more than one suspect involved in this crime. But, when listening to the PC, I heard the Sheriff use the praise "THE KILLER." Also when he said this he seemed to magnify the word "THE", meaning that he MIGHT THINK there is only one perpetrator responsible for this crime. I know he did make other references to they or these suspects in other forms, but I'm just saying that there is a good possibility that there is one lone perpetrator that murdered CB.

I know when I write stuff I say stuff like "SUSPECT(s)," meaning that as far as I'm concerned there could be more than one.

But as far as a Devil worshiping cult or anything like that, I highly disagree.
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A request. Please read the lyrics to the Pick Axe Preacher songs, consider this was a Halloween party, and then explain why you highly disagree. I'm open minded to your reasoning, so thank you in advance! http://www.reverbnation.com/pickaxepreacher
 
Although it does appear as if something might have happened that early morning at the Flatrock Easter site, that isn't necessarily so. That clothing could have been left there after an attack, yes, or it could have been discarded there at any point; even days later. We don't know...yet. Based on what LE found at the Briar Hill location, they most likely know already.
 
I've hopped trains and you wouldn't run on or by tracks to get away from anyone, certainly not for far. She was driven down there most likely in a car by perp/s who knew the spot, who knew it was wet and marshy, thus easier to dig in late October, who wanted isolation, who wanted a way to come and go unseen that night, who have loyalty problems because of the Easter find, it all may be possible.
 
Monster, once again you have written my thoughts. I even have had to stop and make sure I didn't write some of your posts, they are so close to my own thoughts.

I cannot believe anyone could successfully run down the tracks, at least around here. They are generally not well-groomed areas, and often have a lot of stones that would make running very difficult, if not impossible. In fact, just this weekend on our country ride we were remarking how messy the area next to tracks seem to be. Broken bottles, old railroad ties, rocks, trash, glass. Being dark would make using them as an escape route a dangerous choice.

JMO
 
FindHG said:
I've hopped trains and you wouldn't run on or by tracks to get away from anyone, certainly not for far. She was driven down there most likely in a car by perp/s who knew the spot, who knew it was wet and marshy, thus easier to dig in late October, who wanted isolation, who wanted a way to come and go unseen that night, who have loyalty problems because of the Easter find it all may be possible.
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Wow FindHG! Were you running away to join the circus? ; )
 
FindHG said:
I've hopped trains and you wouldn't run on or by tracks to get away from anyone, certainly not for far. She was driven down there most likely in a car by perp/s who knew the spot, who knew it was wet and marshy, thus easier to dig in late October, who wanted isolation, who wanted a way to come and go unseen that night, who have loyalty problems because of the Easter find it all may be possible.
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I believe there is some sort of connection to Chelsea's high school. She attended Airport High School in Carleton. From what I understand so did HB. Additionally, I recall that one of the last individuals that Chelsea was said to have had a detailed conversation with was a female friend that also attendedAirport Schools. This conversation was said to have occurred at around 3am (by the fire). I believe Chelsea borrowed her phone to try to make contact with a friend and secure a ride home. I have been wondering who this female attended the party with...and most particularly who this individual left with. I don't think she is in any shape way or form involved w/ Chelsea's disappearance. However, I would think she has been able to provide detailed info on some of the individuals in attendance at the party, and may be considered a highly valuable asset to LE. I have lived in the Newport area my whole life and one thing is for sure....everybody is some how acquainted or connected to everyone (if you don't know a person directly, typically...someone w/in your circle of family or friends knows that person). If Chelsea had attended the same high school as HB and/or his friends, even w/ a 3-4 age gap or for a very short time period...I am confident there would be some familiarity there. I think it would be enough to make her feel comfortable w/ accepting a ride w/ this individual(s). It's extremely common for younger adults (especially, younger adults under the influence of alcohol) to be very familiar w/ the back roads...you can pretty much get anywhere in Monroe County w/out ever taking a main road. If Chelsea wasn't really paying attention or unable to focus on the direction and roads they were traveling on...she very well, may not have sensed any danger until the very last minute. In my opinion, I believe the assault began in the vehicle...I also think it's very possible that part of her costume could have come off in the car (after a struggle). I think the person responsible for Chelsea's death was extremely knowledgable to the area. I think the individual(s) responsible knew that based on the location (where Chelsea was found) that it was a very dark/desolate area and they could get away with just about anything. I believe Chelsea may have sensed she was in trouble and tried to fight. In a rage...she was pulled out of the vehicle and harmed further (and sadly killed). My logic tells me that this person lives in Flat Rock (FYI: part of Flat Rock is considered Monroe County w/ part of Flat Rock officially in Wayne County) or this person has family or friends (or some sort of connection) to this area...I feel this person drove the tracks or back roads ending up near Peters road (close to their final destination) where they may have realized they had part of Chelsea's costume in their vehicle...they may have panicked and tried to get rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. It doesn't make any sense (to me) that Chelsea was ever in the Flat Rock area that evening. I can't see someone driving further North (to a busier area) just to harm someone...and then backtracking West to discard a body. I don't know...this situation is so terribly sad ..my 11 year son is having a very hard time dealing w/ the reality that Chelsea isn't coming home. He just spent some time in Florida w/ Chelsea's Aunt so he is taking it very personally. We will be at the vigil tomorrow evening. Thanks!
 
(((Klynn3))) :daisy:
 
Klynn3 said:
I believe there is some sort of connection to Chelsea's high school. She attended Airport High School in Carleton. From what I understand so did HB. Additionally, I recall that one of the last individuals that Chelsea was said to have had a detailed conversation with was a female friend that also attendedAirport Schools. This conversation was said to have occurred at around 3am (by the fire). I believe Chelsea borrowed her phone to try to make contact with a friend and secure a ride home. I have been wondering who this female attended the party with...and most particularly who this individual left with. I don't think she is in any shape way or form involved w/ Chelsea's disappearance. However, I would think she has been able to provide detailed info on some of the individuals in attendance at the party, and may be considered a highly valuable asset to LE. I have lived in the Newport area my whole life and one thing is for sure....everybody is some how acquainted or connected to everyone (if you don't know a person directly, typically...someone w/in your circle of family or friends knows that person). If Chelsea had attended the same high school as HB and/or his friends, even w/ a 3-4 age gap or for a very short time period...I am confident there would be some familiarity there. I think it would be enough to make her feel comfortable w/ accepting a ride w/ this individual(s). It's extremely common for younger adults (especially, younger adults under the influence of alcohol) to be very familiar w/ the back roads...you can pretty much get anywhere in Monroe County w/out ever taking a main road. If Chelsea wasn't really paying attention or unable to focus on the direction and roads they were traveling on...she very well, may not have sensed any danger until the very last minute. In my opinion, I believe the assault began in the vehicle...I also think it's very possible that part of her costume could have come off in the car (after a struggle). I think the person responsible for Chelsea's death was extremely knowledgable to the area. I think the individual(s) responsible knew that based on the location (where Chelsea was found) that it was a very dark/desolate area and they could get away with just about anything. I believe Chelsea may have sensed she was in trouble and tried to fight. In a rage...she was pulled out of the vehicle and harmed further (and sadly killed). My logic tells me that this person lives in Flat Rock (FYI: part of Flat Rock is considered Monroe County w/ part of Flat Rock officially in Wayne County) or this person has family or friends (or some sort of connection) to this area...I feel this person drove the tracks or back roads ending up near Peters road (close to their final destination) where they may have realized they had part of Chelsea's costume in their vehicle...they may have panicked and tried to get rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. It doesn't make any sense (to me) that Chelsea was ever in the Flat Rock area that evening. I can't see someone driving further North (to a busier area) just to harm someone...and then backtracking West to discard a body. I don't know...this situation is so terribly sad ..my 11 year son is having a very hard time dealing w/ the reality that Chelsea isn't coming home. He just spent some time in Florida w/ Chelsea's Aunt so he is taking it very personally. We will be at the vigil tomorrow evening. Thanks!
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GigTu said:
(((Klynn3))) :daisy:
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Thank you very much.

I was just thinking how for months we wondered where she was and now we know

I haven't stopped thinking of who yet, though, it's different. What you posted helps a lot.

Tell your eleven year old please, for me, that if he feels strong then his prayers will be stronger for Chelsea
 
If the heavy bags carried away contain traces of DNA, we'll get the answers. I have no doubt someone(s) is very very nervous right now.
 
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