Found Deceased MI - Dee Ann Warner, 52, last seen @ home, Tecumseh, 25 Apr 2021 *Reward* *trial to declare legally dead*

[Chelly]

Thinking about those tanks stored on the property. Wonder why three years passed before it was suggested that one of them be searched for Dee's body?

 

[Dargon335]

Human remains found on Warner property, family believes remains are that of missing woman Dee Warner

[...]
Dee’s brother, Gregg Hardy, said investigators showed family members an X-ray of the tank, showing a body inside of it. He said he was in disbelief at first.

“You know what we’ve now discovered is so far fetched, who would have thought? You know who could have even dreamed that up?” Hardy said.

He said the findings were thanks in part to a collaborative effort with police.

“The way this happened was it was a a cooperative process by which the Michigan State Police had shared some information with me -- evidence -- and it made me think about this tank,” Hardy said. “Because I had noticed the tank before, early on, right after my sister went missing.”
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[Dotta]

Dee Warner murder case: A look inside the barn where family says human remains were found

Local 4 got a look inside the barn where human remains linked to the Dee Warner murder case were found over the weekend.

www.clickondetroit.com

 

[Vaderman]

Thinking about those tanks stored on the property. Wonder why three years passed before it was suggested that one of them be searched for Dee's body?

I was just thinking the same thing. I know hindsight is 20/20 and we're all a bunch of know-it-all's from behind our computer screens, but seeing the pictures of the tanks, especially how they seem so blatantly hidden...seems like it should have been searched long ago.

 

[Seattle1]

Human Remains Found in Propane Tank on Dee Warner's Husband’s Property, Years After Woman Goes Missing: Police

Police have been searching since 2021 for the Michigan mother of four

people.com

 

[windrower]

How devious. I can totally see how something like that would be missed in a search.

Dee’s brother, Greg Hardy, showed Local 4′s Victor Williams exactly where his sister’s presumed remains were found inside a barn. He said they were in an anhydrous tank, sealed in an airtight cylinder in the dark, potentially for years.

“I wasn’t here at the time that they removed the tank,” Hardy said. “But it was sitting in here separate from these other tanks that are over here.”

The family believes those remains will be positively identified as Dee Warner. An autopsy is scheduled for Tuesday as officials try to be 100% certain that it’s her body.

“In the dark of night, in a building that had no cameras -- slide her body in there, put the end cap back on it, and weld it completely shut,” Hardy said. “Then attach that to a chassis, paint it, even have the gall to put his logo on it to make it look like it was normal, and then took it and stored it with other tanks so it would like it was just another one of the fleet.

Sounds a lot like having the chemicals BAM in your garage and then BAM being found in your murdered wife’s remains when she is unburied.

May justice be realized for Dee and Suzanne.

 

[Seattle1]

8/19/24

Missing Wife Trial: Human Remains Found on Dale Warner's Property

Dee Warner Dee was last seen on April 25, 2021. Her husband, Dale Warner, was arrested and charged in Nov. 2023.

www.courttv.com

 

[al66pine]

A Frank Description from DW's Brother in Aug 2022? Plus a PI & $$$.

"Warner’s brother Gregg Hardy claims she suffered from a rocky marriage, but he believes her sudden disappearance was not about any desire to escape that.
"“Her demeanor would more than likely be to set the house on fire on her way out, if she were leaving,” " Hardy said. "“I mean, seriously, she was a scrapper.”"

Also in article:
"Hardy spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on private investigators to help determine his sister’s whereabouts, and he wants to see some action."

Hundreds of thousands of $? At that time, missing about 16 months.
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Missing Michigan mother: What happened to Dee Ann Warner?

Many people are determined to get answers about Dee Ann Warner, the 52-year-old who vanished last April. Family members suspect foul play, but the Lenawee County Sheriff’s Department needs more to go on, and they’re renewing their request for help from the public.

www.clickondetroit.com

 

[al66pine]

Was a Front-End Loader Used?
A May 2022 story referenced a true crime podcast w comments from a PI, who has been investigating DW's disappearance.
"The evidence in the case is circumstantial and right now, Little said, that they can essentially prove a manslaughter case..."
Also said an arrest was forthcoming.


Little "explained that the bucket of Dale's front-end loader was clean the morning after Dee went missing, but did not elaborate. Little said... [later]... he thought Dale had used the loader to move Dee's body."

AFAIK, LE has neither confirmed or denied ^.
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Private investigator on Dee Warner case says arrest forthcoming

A private investigator working with relatives of a missing Franklin Township woman says he's collected evidence that points to a manslaughter charge.

www.lenconnect.com

 

[Curiousobserver]

How devious. I can totally see how something like that would be missed in a search.

Dee’s brother, Greg Hardy, showed Local 4′s Victor Williams exactly where his sister’s presumed remains were found inside a barn. He said they were in an anhydrous tank, sealed in an airtight cylinder in the dark, potentially for years.

“I wasn’t here at the time that they removed the tank,” Hardy said. “But it was sitting in here separate from these other tanks that are over here.”

The family believes those remains will be positively identified as Dee Warner. An autopsy is scheduled for Tuesday as officials try to be 100% certain that it’s her body.

“In the dark of night, in a building that had no cameras -- slide her body in there, put the end cap back on it, and weld it completely shut,” Hardy said. “Then attach that to a chassis, paint it, even have the gall to put his logo on it to make it look like it was normal, and then took it and stored it with other tanks so it would like it was just another one of the fleet.

I have to admit I am kind of impressed actually.

Leaks in those tanks happen from time to time and law enforcement would know not to disturb those; and he knew that.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Sounds a lot like having the chemicals BAM in your garage and then BAM being found in your murdered wife’s remains when she is unburied.

May justice be realized for Dee and Suzanne.

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

IIUC the now jailed husband is suspected of having cut open or modified an industrial larger-scale anyhydrous ammonia storage tank and placed his wife’s body in it. And then he welded the tank opening shut again to seal the body within the tank cavity. Even supposedly repainted it and noted that it was not for use. (Sometimes there might be specific seals or other markings to denote that. ‘Empty’ and ‘MT’ are among common markings used.)

Not yet seen any details yet that I recall, but I imagine the tank then remained empty? And was not partially or completely refilled with anhydrous ammonia?

This undated (circa 2024) Minnesota Department of Agriculture entitled ‘First Aid Information for Anhydrous Ammonia Exposure’ describes the affects of anhydrous ammonia on human tissue. (Note I don’t recall seeing whether the particular tank was liquid, gaseous, or perhaps a combination of those phases?) Also note effects from the presence of water and further effects from it. One would hope that the tank was not partially or fully recharged after it was sealed. MOO

First Aid Information for Anhydrous Ammonia Exposure | Minnesota Department of Agriculture

Water is the most important emergency treatment given for anhydrous ammonia exposures before advanced medical servic

www.mda.state.mn.us

 

[Trime]

More testing needed to ID remains from tank on Dale Warner property

Human remains were found in a tank on a Lenawee County property belonging to Dale Warner and Dee Warner on Friday.

www.wtol.com

 

[al66pine]

Husband's Atty: Cooperation. Apple Watch.

In July 2022, atty Larry Leib then-representing Dale Warner, who police had labeled as a person of interest, said that Dale had been open & available, and
"... been talked to by the FBI," state police, sheriff’s dept multiple times. They visited all these properties, his home, office, barns, & fields.

Leib said, "Dale Warner is innocent and says his Apple Watch can prove it."
“The biomechanics showed that he had no elevated heart rate, no elevated breathing. The GPS showed that he was where he said he was, which was at home.”
^^^

Missing: Michigan mother vanished in 2021

For more than 14 months the family of a Michigan woman has been hoping for answers about what happened to the mother of five.

www.newsnationnow.com

Edit:
Atty Larry Leib is not representing him in criminal case initiated in Nov. 2023.
Charges were "open murder and tampering with evidence"

Remains found on defendant's property months after he was charged with killing missing wife

Cops said Sunday that they found the remains while executing a search warrant on property belonging to Dale Warner in Lenawee County.

lawandcrime.com

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[al66pine]

Googled the phone number shown on the tank in MSM pix re case.
Of the 40+ results, these two caught my attn. May or may not be relevant.
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fb page relates to the "Transportation Division" of DDW Investments.
"DDW Investments was founded in 2003. Our end dumps specialize in hauling agricultural products among other specialty products."
Mostly posted "Driver Wanted" w most recent is dated in Dec. 2020.
Listed Dee & another number for contact.

^ Is this "the" co. or one of the co's Dee & Dale wrangled over? ^
Then fraud allegations after her disappearance?
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allbiz.com displays listing for www.warag.biz.
"founded in 1996. At this location, War-Ag Farms employs approximately 23 people. Annual sales for War-Ag Farms are around USD 1,000,000 - 4,999,999."

Googling for warag.biz I got "can't be reached."

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Plus links for spokeo & other directories, which I can't access.

 

[PommyMommy]

Googled the phone number shown on the tank in MSM pix re case.
Of the 40+ results, these two caught my attn. May or may not be relevant.
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fb page relates to the "Transportation Division" of DDW Investments.
"DDW Investments was founded in 2003. Our end dumps specialize in hauling agricultural products among other specialty products."
Mostly posted "Driver Wanted" w most recent is dated in Dec. 2020.
Listed Dee & another number for contact.

^ Is this "the" co. or one of the co's Dee & Dale wrangled over? ^
Then fraud allegations after her disappearance?
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allbiz.com displays listing for www.warag.biz.
"founded in 1996. At this location, War-Ag Farms employs approximately 23 people. Annual sales for War-Ag Farms are around USD 1,000,000 - 4,999,999."

Googling for warag.biz I got "can't be reached."

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Plus links for spokeo & other directories, which I can't access.

See BBM

Dee Warner murder case: A look inside the barn where family says human remains were found

Local 4 got a look inside the barn where human remains linked to the Dee Warner murder case were found over the weekend.

www.clickondetroit.com

“In the dark of night, in a building that had no cameras -- slide her body in there, put the end cap back on it, and weld it completely shut,” Hardy said. “Then attach that to a chassis, paint it, even have the gall to put his logo on it to make it look like it was normal, and then took it and stored it with other tanks so it would like it was just another one of the fleet.

 

[PommyMommy]

AUG 20, 2024

Autopsy performed on remains found on Warner property, officials awaiting formal identification

MSP said further testing is needed and it should be done in the next few days.

www.13abc.com

Michigan State Police said Tuesday the Jackson County Medical Examiner conducted an autopsy on Aug. 20 on the human remains found in a tank on property belonging to Dale and Dee Warner, but a positive identification of the remains wasn’t confirmed. MSP said further testing is needed and it should be done in the next few days. The findings so far also couldn’t confirm a manner of death.

Michigan State Police: More analysis needed to identify remains found on Warner property

An autopsy conducted on human remains found on property belonging to Dale Warner did not yield a positive identification, state police said Tuesday.

www.lenconnect.com

...Hardy said this past Sunday that police telling him they had video showing Dale moving welding equipment into the barn at their residence and farm where he kept the fertilizer sprayer reminded him that shortly after Dee went missing he saw Dale refurbishing an old tank in the sprayer barn, and he shared that information with police.

An old tank with newer paint, an unprofessional weld and marked "do not use" was found on property Warner owns on Paragon Road, Hardy said. ... That tank was taken to an X-ray facility in Detroit at the U.S.-Canada border to be examined, and the image showed a body inside. Police opened the tank and found human remains wrapped in a blue tarp.

 

[al66pine]

Besides the legal labor dispute @YaYa_521 mentioned in post #2, WarAg was denied local approval (Township Planning & Zoning Boards) to sell pesticides, so filed in MI circuit ct which then affirmed the boards' denials. When WarAg appealed, the MI. App.Ct reversed & remanded in 2008.

Plaintiffs/Appellants:
"WAR-AG FARMS, L.L.C., DALE WARNER, and DEE ANN BOCK"

No idea if litigation is relevant to this case, but my Q:
At that time were Dee & Dale married?

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Circ Ct.:
War-Ag Farms, LLC v Franklin Twp, 480 Mich 948; 741 NW2d 302 (2007).
App.Ct.:

WAR-AG FARMS LLC V FRANKLIN TOWNSHIP

WAR-AG FARMS LLC V FRANKLIN TOWNSHIP

law.justia.com

 

[al66pine]

XRay of Tank?

.... That tank was taken to an X-ray facility in Detroit at the U.S.-Canada border to be examined, and the image showed a body inside. Police opened the tank and found human remains wrapped in a blue tarp.

snipped for focus @PommyMommy Thanks for your quotes & links showing that US border patrol has X-Ray gear that does the job at their facilities.

For X-Ray examples, search "images us border patrol xray of trucks."

 

[Megnut]

Leib said, "Dale Warner is innocent and says his Apple Watch can prove it."
“The biomechanics showed that he had no elevated heart rate, no elevated breathing. The GPS showed that he was where he said he was, which was at home."

RSBM (quoting defense attorney)

If he wasn't involved, how does he know when she killed?

Rhetorical question.

I predict LWOP plus 156.

JMO