MI MI - Jessica Heeringa, 25, Norton Shores, 26 April 2013 #2

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Ok moving on...my sister asked me if LE is looking at area sex offenders, what is taking so long to clear them? I was thinking that maybe they do not have alibis, yet there is no direct evidence to implicate. So they are not charged, and also not cleared. Does this sound right?
Wondering...do the police have a legal right to show up at a sex offender's house and take evidence (vehicle, computer, etc) or search a residence without any cause if they are on probation? What about if they are not on active probation?
 
OtherEyes said:
I just find it interesting that it appears to have happened to the same age group, that girl was 19 but JH looks petite and young as well. Also there is something about offenders and dates. I don't what it is but a lot of offenders tend to have triggers and if this is the same guy, maybe the last week in April triggers him for some reason? MOO...
Please don't ask for a link it is just from studying so many cases that this seems to ring true.:dunno:
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Everything he/she said. Exactly.
 
I wonder if LLL's fiance drives a gray/silver minivan?
 
I'm hoping there will be a third surveillance photo or video found and scrutinized. I don't think this is implausible, now that there is a clear direction of travel.
 
Marilynilpa said:
Are you with local LE? You seem very certain.

Since many sex offenders aren't registered because they've never been caught, I'd say chances are this person is not a registered sex offender.

Also, some sex offenders (25%) aren't on the registry for various reasons:

Not every registered sex offender will appear on this Internet web site. As explained on the Summary of the Law page, approximately 25% of registered sex offenders are excluded from public disclosure by law. Whether public disclosure is permitted is based on the type of sex crime for which the person is required to register.

The Sex Offender Tracking Program is responsible for determining if any sex offender registrant who applies for exclusion from the Internet web site qualifies for exclusion. Registrants whose only registrable sex offenses are for the following offenses may apply for exclusion: (1) sexual battery by restraint (Penal Code § 243.4, subd. (a)); (2) misdemeanor child molestation (Penal Code § 647.6, or former section 647a); or (3) lewd and lascivious acts with a child under 14 (Penal Code section 288) or continuous sexual abuse of a child (Penal Code § 288.5), but only if the person convicted of section 288 or 288.5 successfully completed probation that was granted pursuant to Penal Code section 1203.066, subdivision (c). Click here for a copy of the exclusion form, which must be submitted to DOJ and approved before exclusion will be granted. Registered sex offenders who are granted exclusion from the Internet web site must still register as sex offenders.

http://meganslaw.ca.gov/sexreg.htm
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Someone on the Find Jessica Heeringa Facebook page said they are looking into him. He lives 3 minutes away from the Exxon station.
 
WZZM 13 Grand Rapids Facebook Page

"Norton Shores Police say that a photoshopped picture of the composite sketch of the suspect in the Jessica Heeringa disappearance is not helping the investigation. They have spoken with the owner of the gas station and he is not considered a suspect. Please stop forwarding to us or to anyone as it is NOT
HELPFUL in finding Jessica! bb, online producer"

https://www.facebook.com/wzzm13?ref=stream&hc_location=stream
 
iluvmua said:
Someone on the Find Jessica Heeringa Facebook page said they are looking into him. He's also a RSO.
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I think you guys are misunderstanding each other here. :seeya:

We know that LLL is, a registered offender, I don't think that's what Marilyn meant.
I think Marilyn means this creep, JESSICA'S abductor may not be an RSO, it could be anyone.

So if LLL is not Jessica's abductor, Jessica's abductor may not be registered.

Does that make sense? Is that correct Marilyn?
 
MsFacetious said:
I think you guys are misunderstanding each other here. :seeya:

We know that LLL is, a registered offender, I don't think that's what Marilyn meant.
I think Marilyn means this creep, JESSICA'S abductor may not be an RSO, it could be anyone.

So if LLL is not Jessica's abductor, Jessica's abductor may not be registered.

Does that make sense? Is that correct Marilyn?
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It could be anyone, i'n sure they are talking to everyone they can.
 
I worked at a gas station in my high school/university days.. My boss also liked to hire young women because he said we were friendlier and brought in more business. Thankfully we had cameras. I got to know a lot of the venders that delivered to us. Some of them drove their own vehicles...maybe the gas mileage was compensated or they ran behind on their deliveries and had to work off the clock, etc. The thing that weirded me out is that some customers would call the gas station on my days off and ask about my schedule. Thankfully the other workers were not permitted to give out such info...but it was still really creepy. I wonder if they have looked into this sort of situation?
 
finishstrong said:
WZZM 13 Grand Rapids Facebook Page

"Norton Shores Police say that a photoshopped picture of the composite sketch of the suspect in the Jessica Heeringa disappearance is not helping the investigation. They have spoken with the owner of the gas station and he is not considered a suspect. Please stop forwarding to us or to anyone as it is NOT
HELPFUL in finding Jessica! bb, online producer"

https://www.facebook.com/wzzm13?ref=stream&hc_location=stream
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Finally! Thank you NSPD and WZZM.
 
finishstrong said:
WZZM 13 Grand Rapids Facebook Page

"Norton Shores Police say that a photoshopped picture of the composite sketch of the suspect in the Jessica Heeringa disappearance is not helping the investigation. They have spoken with the owner of the gas station and he is not considered a suspect. Please stop forwarding to us or to anyone as it is NOT
HELPFUL in finding Jessica! bb, online producer"

https://www.facebook.com/wzzm13?ref=stream&hc_location=stream
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http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/255018/14/Witness-Man-in-van-flirting-with-Heeringa-at-Exxon

In an interview with ABC News, VanAntwerpen said the man seemed to flirt with the 25-year-old mother. "He was just like, 'Hey, what are you doing over here? Aren't you supposed to be inside?' Just kind of being real flirty, weird about it."

VanAntwerpen did not see the man's face, but he says he does remember the sound of his voice.

Looks like the sketch did not come from this witness.
He did not see the man in the vans face.

Back to wondering how they got such a detailed sketch.
jmo
 
Crazy idea. :seeya:
If they had a picture or video of the suspect, would they do a sketch from it, rather than releasing it?
Maybe to avoid the possibility of admitting to the perp that they had an actual picture or video of him?

Maybe thinking the sketch is less likely to make him panic and the picture can be a secret weapon later?
This would explain why LE feels the sketch is a 10 out of 10... and are so confident about it.

Perhaps there isn't a human witness who saw the perp at all...
 
sorry, i know some of us are trying to move on from the RSO aspect... but i just noticed that LLL posted a picture of an orange car in "his" garage, January 25th. it's 'his car in side of his garage located at his home'... then the girlfriend says it's "her car". who knows whos it is... but just throwing it out there. looks like a single car garage, similar to the one someone posted about upthread (that had a silver vehicle in it on the google street shot).

both brothers seem to have found God, both have girlfriends/or wives and it looks like MAL has a baby on he way. i just don't know what to think about all of this.

the one thing i DO know is that RSO's shouldn't be on freaking FB! lol i do happen to have a cousin in law thats an RSO and after all this RSO talk, i'm going to go report his fb account!

carry on.
 
Herp Derp. Forgot that anyone could look it up. I just feel bad when people take the ideas that we've worked hard to brainstorm and they don't feel a need to contribute. Thanks Internets. lol
Oh BTW They also took the Clinton Twp connection to FB too. Does that mean we can't discuss it? <JK
 
WideOpen said:
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/255018/14/Witness-Man-in-van-flirting-with-Heeringa-at-Exxon

In an interview with ABC News, VanAntwerpen said the man seemed to flirt with the 25-year-old mother. "He was just like, 'Hey, what are you doing over here? Aren't you supposed to be inside?' Just kind of being real flirty, weird about it."

VanAntwerpen did not see the man's face, but he says he does remember the sound of his voice.

Looks like the sketch did not come from this witness.
He did not see the man in the vans face.

Back to wondering how they got such a detailed sketch.
jmo
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Well that just throws me off altogether. Lol. I was so certain HE was the witness that made them SO confident with the sketch. I, myself, felt more confident in it thinking this witness was one of THE witnesses. Hmmm.
 
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