MI MI - Jessica Heeringa, 25, Norton Shores, 26 April 2013 #7

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http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/...ly_tries_to_lure_15.html#incart_river_default

Umm....thick build, speech impediment, tried to lure a young girl in Norton Shores, six feet tall........!

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/264664/14/Man-tries-to-lure-15-year-old-at-beach-trail

This one says he has white or gray medium length hair...Idk. creepy even if not related to Jessica.
That park should be searched ASAP.:razz::razz::razz::razz::razz::razz::razz:
 
Was anyone ever polygraphed in the early days of this case? I know that at least four individuals were questioned by LE but don't recall if any of them submitted to polygraphs. Anyone know for sure?
 
Was anyone ever polygraphed in the early days of this case? I know that at least four individuals were questioned by LE but don't recall if any of them submitted to polygraphs. Anyone know for sure?

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/muskegon_county/cleared-jessica-heeringa-person-of-interest

"Ammerman said he took a polygraph test over the weekend. He is one of four persons of interest who have been cleared in the case."

http://fox17online.com/2013/05/01/m...ew-location-may-be-polygraphed/#axzz2bucsg1XN

"Heeringa’s fiance was also given a polygraph test and is not considered a suspect."


So that's 2 people that have been polygraphed.

http://muskegon.wzzm13.com/news/news/136603-police-wrap-search-grand-haven-jessica-heeringa

"Chief Shaw says four men: Heeringa's former boyfriend, current fiancé, and two acquaintances have all spent time with investigators. "We did run down those four people and have eliminated them from our current investigation."

"The four men took polygraph tests and turned over belongings to police. "I believe all of those individuals voluntarily gave us their cell phone to freely download all of the data," said Shaw."
 
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Was anyone ever polygraphed in the early days of this case? I know that at least four individuals were questioned by LE but don't recall if any of them submitted to polygraphs. Anyone know for sure?
I think more than four LE doesn't tell us all their moves. In Los Angeles years ago a girl was abducgted and tied to a tree and left alive. She was found before she died. This is another reason searches are needed.:pillowfight2::pillowfight2::pillowfight2::pillowfight2::pillowfight2::pillowfight2::pillowfight2::pillowfight2::pillowfight2::pillowfight2::pillowfight2::pillowfight2:
 
Chief Shaw says 4 men took polygraphs and Jesse A says he took a polygraph, but Chief Shaw never specified Jesse A was one of the four. So we really only have his word on it. I would think he would have been asked though, since he saw Jessica after 10 pm that night.
 
http://fox17online.com/2013/05/02/m...test-in-heeringa-disappearance/#axzz2bucsg1XN

From May 2nd article....

This article is about a 5th person of interest that LE wanted to be polygraphed. This person has a van, and had not been cleared as of the writing of the article on May 2nd, because at that point they had not polygraphed him.
The article talked about 4 previous persons of interest that have been cleared.

Now who this 5th person is, I don't know, but I would think that with JA talking about being at the police station and talking to LE and mentioning a polygraph, it would seem suspect if he would lie about taking one, as LE could come back and say publicly no he didn't.
 
Was the Exxon station owner among those who were polygraphed? I recall that he had an attorney from the get-go who might have advised against it.
 
If I had to assume, I would assume that Jesse A and Dakota were 2 of the 4 that were polygraphed, and that the 5th person was an RSO who they hit on when interviewing all area RSO's. I am guessing, with nothing to back it up, that a person close to the family who is an RSO was also polygraphed, and one of the original 4, but maybe that is just me and wishful thinking. No idea about the Exxon owner, or if he had an alibi. I do believe LE came out saying the owner was NOT a suspect though. All assumptions, of course and MOO.

ETA I wonder if there has been any talk of polygraphing witnesses.
 
For those who have the ID channel, on Sunday the 18th, "On the case with Paula Zahn" is about a 19-year old kidnapped from a convenience store. Not sure which case, but probably one discussed here at some point.
 
Here is an interesting video from HLN.....

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/08/15/missing-children-posters?clusterId=1421

"How effective are missing child posters?"


This video experiment about a child (that was never missing, only used for this experiment) with missing posters about him posted at a playground, with children and adults in the park, was actually at this park, and very few recognized him, even after viewing the missing posters.

With Jessica's poster saturated in the state of Michigan, would Jessica be noticed?
Or would she only be noticed because she consistently was on the news previously?
News about Jessica has since died down. Are people still noticing Jessica's posters?
Will Jessica ever be found?

IMOO.
 
Hi. I've been away since the 10th. Today I read that a Jessica, age 17, is missing from Wisconsin. She was last seen on the 10th at 5:05 p.m. getting into a late 90's black Chevy Lumina.

Then I noticed that a Jessica is missing from Indiana. I've not read the details on that thread yet as I wanted to catch up over here first. All of a sudden, it occurred to me that the name Jessica keeps popping up. Then I remembered that in Heeringa's case, a black car can be seen driving ahead of the van in one of the videos. Not much was ever said about that car.

The chance is slim to none that the Jessica name connects these cases but isn't it strange so many are going missing who have the same first name? I realize the name Jessica is like Cathy used to be but figure the odds.
 

Thanks for posting this flutter! It is so important to keep an eye on these things!

From the above article:

" He also had a speech impediment, the girl said. "

Interesting.

Makes me wonder if he might have been a special needs or hearing imparied individual just trying to be friendly.

(Not minimizing her encounter, just mentioning the impediment might have frightened her...)
 
The temperature in Norton Shores is ideal for searching at this time it is 78F. I am still trying to compose a note to Jamie Jones at the Missing You Foundation. However he is not in that part of Michigan. It would take considerable effort for him to systamically search all the parks in the area. It is unfortunate several other Jessicas have come up missing but it is unlikely they are related to Jessica Heeringa. We must stay focused on finding her.
 
i find it odd (and i know it doesn't mean anything) that her being a mother isn't mentioned more. even if you google 'jessica heeringa missing mother' ---- her being a mother rarely comes up. You think this would be a route to push for awareness (just like young, blonde, females are..being a mother throws another thing on top of it).
 
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Hi. I've been away since the 10th. Today I read that a Jessica, age 17, is missing from Wisconsin. She was last seen on the 10th at 5:05 p.m. getting into a late 90's black Chevy Lumina.

Then I noticed that a Jessica is missing from Indiana. I've not read the details on that thread yet as I wanted to catch up over here first. All of a sudden, it occurred to me that the name Jessica keeps popping up. Then I remembered that in Heeringa's case, a black car can be seen driving ahead of the van in one of the videos. Not much was ever said about that car.

The chance is slim to none that the Jessica name connects these cases but isn't it strange so many are going missing who have the same first name? I realize the name Jessica is like Cathy used to be but figure the odds.
I have sent the note to the missing you foundation on Jessica and the concept of awareness space to locate search areas.:wagon::wagon::wagon::wagon::wagon::wagon::wagon::wagon::wagon:
 
Watched "On the Case with Paula Zahn" from last night, about the Katie Poirer case. Lots of similarities to Jessica, including time of night (11:30p in Katie's case), all of her things left behind (keys, car, purse, etc.) and although in Katie's case, there was video, it was almost worthless except for showing a blurred image of Katie being taken from the show. But a woman who had seen a suspicious man could not tell if this was the same man as on the video, it was so bad. She did describe his truck though and had a partial plate. But unlike Jessica's case, an intensive ground search took place right away and a reenactment was done. They also released a sketch and got a name from the public immediately. Oddly, they did the reenactment using the actual suspect, but he did not match up, due to tattoos or lack thereof.

In any case, the bad video was cleaned up somewhat by NASA and the detail of a NYY jersey #23 was seen and released to public. They got a call and one of the pieces of info was that the new suspect had changed his hair and quit his job after the abduction. Turns out this guy had aliases and one of his other names had come up earlier and he had been ruled out based on what his wife had told them.

Anyway, sorry this is so long, especially as the same person could not have kidnapped Jessica,since this guy is in prison, but if nothing else, LE could perhaps be reminding the public that Jessica's kidnapper may have changed his appearance, quit his job, moved away, etc. IMO LE has not been saying enough to remind the public about Jessica or the perp.
 
Maybe LE has not been saying enough to remind the public about Jessica or the perp, because maybe they feel the sketch and or van may not truly represent who took Jessica. Maybe LE are on to certain people and are watching them intently.
IMOO.
 
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