MI - Nevaeh Buchanan, 5, Monroe, 24 May 2009 - Body found - #6

[not_my_kids]

I believe that the grandmother was at work when Nevaeh went missing. I remember reading in an article that grandma was at work, so jennifer was "babysitting"...for her own kid. It was in an article and I am looking for link, I think it's in the general discussion threads.

ETA: this was supposed to be a quote, but the quote didn't show. Oh well, for those that were interested in where GM was.

 

[Searchfortruth]

The Elizabeth Smart case contained a TOTALLY differant set of circumstances. They did not have Registered SO's as best friends, hanging out with their daughter. Jennifer knew this guy was a SO and claimed he was a "father figure" to Nevaeh. Jennifer knew he was not supposed to have any contact with children, yet she let him do so. Jennifer had Nevaeh, at four months old, in the car while she went in to rob a home for drug money. I am sorry, I can not see this woman as a "victim".

 

[KR2tonenow]

No one at all is condoning JB's parenting, choices, and criminal background. There is an issue of Child Neglect, and with all said and done she will be held accountable. NG will not let her off the hook. The FBI is probably fully aware of the "letters" to George and this small community has to find the actual killer. Is there any kind of evidence that Nevaeh could have been sold??

 

[Spyglass]

In JB's Corrections Department bio, it lists: "Tattoo- Lower Right Ankle - Cross with banner above states "Amyah" and banner below states 'Mom.' "

Is Amyah a person's name? Sorry if this was previously addressed and I missed it.

 

[Patty G]

In JB's Corrections Department bio, it lists: "Tattoo- Lower Right Ankle - Cross with banner above states "Amyah" and banner below states 'Mom.' "

Is Amyah a person's name? Sorry if this was previously addressed and I missed it.

Isn't "Amyah" Nevaeh's middle name?

 

[laniefi]

They are done. I have been thinking about doing the same thing, but haven't been able to bring myself to do it.

I certainly understand - although it will very very emotional I feel like if people not from this area saw it - it would help them figure out what really happened to this poor little girl.

 

[maima]

In JB's Corrections Department bio, it lists: "Tattoo- Lower Right Ankle - Cross with banner above states "Amyah" and banner below states 'Mom.' "

Is Amyah a person's name? Sorry if this was previously addressed and I missed it.

**coming out from lurking**

No problem, Spyglass: Amyah is Nevaeh's middle name.

Not sure I can find the right meaning on Google. Possibly "beautiful angel"?

 

[CountryGirl]

The child had no dental records, I find that odd.

It is possible Nevaeh was unconscious and put face down in the mud and suffocated with the ready mix cement.

The left her by the river, still alive and smothered her in cement. That is why the COD release is taking so long.

Locals that live in the area know that Monroe, is a very small rural town in Mich. The SO should be caught if local.

My hinky says not local at all.

She had been to the dentist, but no x-rays had been taken. I read that here in one of the articles posted after her body was found.

 

[Spyglass]

Isn't "Amyah" Nevaeh's middle name?

IDK. I did try reversing the letters (Hayma), but that is unfamiliar to me, too.

 

[Kat]

Thx Scandi! I forgot about the state issue also.

one other thing I forgot the BioDad everyone keeps stating how bad they feel for him. Just where the he!! was he? This was his child. He most likey had visitation. Seeing as he was ordered to pay child support. Even though he did not.
He also let her down.

No one had this child's best interest at heart.

Hi JnTexas, I got curious as well so I went to see what I could find out.

I can't speak to the failure to pay child support, I have some very strong unkind opinions about when a Father or a Mother deny their child the most basic of support ~ financial.

But during the days that she was missing he was camping out in a tent at the apartment complex. (link: http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090531/NEWS16/905310328 May 31, 2009) It says he resided in Toledo.

I do know that on the NG show he stated he was out searching with others. (Patty G uploaded that somewhere).

As for his non-payment of Child support, again I won't comment. As to if he visited, again no comment to the rumors that have been posted. I also made note that he was 17 yrs old when Nevaeh was born. Again, no excuse.

I think that the events that lead up to this happening to Nevaeh have yet to unfold.

I also think that as in many cases of abducted and/or murdered children we will find notable dysfunction in this family. I'm not using the word dysfunction as it is so often nowadays as a catch phrase for problematic families. Rather I'm using it as an indicator of severe dysfuction.

What I'm trying to say is that although the state and the adults in Nevaeh's life could have stepped forward and made a difference in her life and quite possibly could have averted this tragedy...the fact remains the person that was physically responsible for Nevaeh's welfare that particular day...chose to sit on the sofa and watch Jon and Kate + 8 reruns and was angered that she had to get up and go find her flip-flops in order to look for Nevaeh...who by that time was gone...long gone.

 

[Spyglass]

"Amayah has multiple meanings and origins. The Japanese version of Amayah means Night rain.. The Hebrew version of Amayah means Close to God.. The Basque version of Amayah means Amaya (Amaia) in the Basque Language (Euskara) means "The end". "


http://www.birthvillage.com/meaning/Amayah

 

[jnTexas]

Hi JnTexas, I got curious as well so I went to see what I could find out.

I can't speak to the failure to pay child support, I have some very strong unkind opinions about when a Father or a Mother deny their child the most basic of support ~ financial.

But during the days that she was missing he was camping out in a tent at the apartment complex. (link: http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090531/NEWS16/905310328 May 31, 2009) It says he resided in Toledo.

I do know that on the NG show he stated he was out searching with others. (Patty G uploaded that somewhere).

As for his non-payment of Child support, again I won't comment. As to if he visited, again no comment to the rumors that have been posted. I also made note that he was 17 yrs old when Nevaeh was born. Again, no excuse.

I think that the events that lead up to this happening to Nevaeh have yet to unfold.

I also think that as in many cases of abducted and/or murdered children we will find notable dysfunction in this family. I'm not using the word dysfunction as it is so often nowadays as a catch phrase for problematic families. Rather I'm using it as an indicator of severe dysfuction.

What I'm trying to say is that although the state and the adults in Nevaeh's life could have stepped forward and made a difference in her life and quite possibly could have averted this tragedy...the fact remains the person that was physically responsible for Nevaeh's welfare that particular day...chose to sit on the sofa and watch Jon and Kate + 8 reruns and was angered that she had to get up and go find her flip-flops in order to look for Nevaeh...who by that time was gone...long gone.

I completely agree with you!

 

[eyes4crime]

Here's my take on Jennifer: She doesn't seem very educated, seems easily manipulated, and lives the life she was born into. Maybe Jennifer surrounds herself with people she is comfortable with - meaning those with sociopathic tendencies, those who are needy like herself, or those who are manipulative enough to convince her of anything and everything. Jennifer says that SO don't necessarily re-offend, she also does not want to judge them... sounds very naive doesn't it? Maybe that's how she wants others to view her..who knows! There are lots of people, educated or not, who really believe pedophiles do NOT necessarily re-offend and have no idea of the number of victims they can have in their life time. I'm going to reserve my judgement regarding Jennifer until more is known. We have no idea if that beautiful child was sexually assaulted or why she suffered the horrendous death she did. For all I know George and his buddy offenders were set-up to be the culprits while the real offender was off committing this crime. After all, all eyes were on Jennifer and her SO buddies.

 

[CountryGirl]

I hope there is an arrest soon. What a sad, sad case.

RIP precious Nevaeh.

 

[Peliman]

Monday, June 8, 2009 .Nevaeh's family awaits autopsy; 'persons of interest' moved to Jackson
Tanveer Ali / The Detroit News

Monroe -- With no fingerprints or dental x-rays available, the family of 5-year-old Nevaeh Buchanan will have to wait, perhaps several weeks, before a girl's body found near the River Raisin is positively identified.

Wayne County Medical Examiner Carl Schmidt said the findings of the death remain pending and could take weeks before results come in. Tissue samples were sent for special testing.

The delay is difficult, to say the least, family members said today.

http://www.detnews.com/article/2009...topsy---persons-of-interest--moved-to-Jackson

 

[not_my_kids]

OT- Good luck and prayers to our locals in the path of this next batch of storms (like I am.) THey are supposed to get bad.

 

[scandi]

Here's my take on Jennifer: She doesn't seem very educated, seems easily manipulated, and lives the life she was born into. Maybe Jennifer surrounds herself with people she is comfortable with - meaning those with sociopathic tendencies, those who are needy like herself, or those who are manipulative enough to convince her of anything and everything. Jennifer says that SO don't necessarily re-offend, she also does not want to judge them... sounds very naive doesn't it? Maybe that's how she wants others to view her..who knows! There are lots of people, educated or not, who really believe pedophiles do NOT necessarily re-offend and have no idea of the number of victims they can have in their life time. I'm going to reserve my judgement regarding Jennifer until more is known. We have no idea if that beautiful child was sexually assaulted or why she suffered the horrendous death she did. For all I know George and his buddy offenders were set-up to be the culprits while the real offender was off committing this crime. After all, all eyes were on Jennifer and her SO buddies.

Thanks for you very poignent post Eyes4crime, I think you nailed Jennifer as she might really be, given what we have heard from things she has said. That is not heresay but fact IMO and open for interpretation. And it could well be those 2 SO's were set-up as suspects. It would have to be by someone who knew everything that was going on with them and Jennifer I would expect.

You might know the answer to this question, but if the State had any idea Navaeh was being sexually abused, would they jerk her out of the home immediately? We read the State wanted her taken out of the home but it didn'thappen. I'm just trying to second guess why they made that statement that was written in the media. It could have been many reasons, the Grandma too old or not there enough for instance. xox

 

[eyes4crime]

Scandi: I live in the Midwest and know that if DCFS is aware that a child is being or has been sexually abused, they would find another home. Neglect due to substance abuse and other conditions would also warrant removal. Seems that Nevaeh was removed and given to grandma who, hopefully, lived in a different home. Seems to be poor planning on the part of DCFS 'cause if grandma has to work to support the child, who is she expected to use to babysit? This entire case is so tragic!

 

[scandi]

Scandi: I live in the Midwest and know that if DCFS is aware that a child is being or has been sexually abused, they would find another home. Neglect due to substance abuse and other conditions would also warrant removal. Seems that Nevaeh was removed and given to grandma who, hopefully, lived in a different home. Seems to be poor planning on the part of DCFS 'cause if grandma has to work to support the child, who is she expected to use to babysit? This entire case is so tragic!

Hi again, I thought we read it was after Jennifer got out of jail and was living with her mom that Child Services said they wanted Navaeh out of the home.

I'd love to nail that fact down, see if it is true, as they would have to have a good reason to feel that way, and could be the State is also neglect in caring for Navaeh in the proper way.

I don't know how to check that out.

 

[impatientredhead]

Here's my take on Jennifer: She doesn't seem very educated, seems easily manipulated, and lives the life she was born into. Maybe Jennifer surrounds herself with people she is comfortable with - meaning those with sociopathic tendencies, those who are needy like herself, or those who are manipulative enough to convince her of anything and everything. Jennifer says that SO don't necessarily re-offend, she also does not want to judge them... sounds very naive doesn't it? Maybe that's how she wants others to view her..who knows! There are lots of people, educated or not, who really believe pedophiles do NOT necessarily re-offend and have no idea of the number of victims they can have in their life time. I'm going to reserve my judgement regarding Jennifer until more is known. We have no idea if that beautiful child was sexually assaulted or why she suffered the horrendous death she did. For all I know George and his buddy offenders were set-up to be the culprits while the real offender was off committing this crime. After all, all eyes were on Jennifer and her SO buddies.

Not being snotty at all, genuinely curious what the life she was born into is? Do I think she was victimized as a child in order to have the poor boundaries that we see her exhibit today? Yeah, I do. But I am not sure what that really means today, in regards to her duty as a mother?

The "life I was born into" was to a 16 year old drug addict who had been victimized herself. Grew up in various forms of welfare apartments, mentally and physically abused by her and boyfriends, and molested by the type of men that are attracted to women who are drinking and drugging with their daughter in tow. Was she just living the life she was born into? I don't have kids as I wouldn't trust myself to have the nurturing/patience that it would require. I have seen another poster on this thread today talking about what I perceive to be a similar background and she isn't suggesting that JB is anything less than responsible for this situation, at least a major contributor.

I don't want to be uncaring about how she got to the place she is, but my experience in life is that you can't excuse continuously outrageous behavior in an adult because their childhood sucked. Life can be cruel, at some point you have to grow up, or if you want to be self destructive do it with adults as your cohorts, don't drag a kid through it. Someone has to do something and someone has to be held accountable or we are just sitting by and watching the next generation be groomed to do it all over again.

All eyes are on JB and RSO friends because this story has been seen before and it always ends the same way. Neveah didn't live her short childhood that included all of those factors and also fall into the 3% of stranger abductions and even if she did her mother wasn't watching her and had no clue where she was. It is still neglect.