MI MI - Tanner Lucas, Alexander William, & Andrew Ryan Skelton, Morenci, 26 Nov 2010 #3

[passionflower]

JS admitted to dumping and killing 3 sons........that makes him a danger to everyone!
He is not insane.........glad he is behind bars.
His mother and sister and like Cindy and lee Anthony, or like ABaker's mom, Scott Peterson's parents.
Probably the reason he is what he is!!!, JMOO

 

[Cubby]

You could be right but I think the first part the reason why he isn't telling them is because of the decomp. I'm thinking he did something really bad to those kids when he was drunk.

I have to respectfully disagree. I think if he was drunk when this occured he would have been able to follow through with committing suicide himself and the boys would have been found by now. He would not have been able to pull off disappearing the boys where no one could find them if he was very intoxicated.

I also do not believe he gave decomp any consideration. It is too cold right now and will be too cold for months....... If the boys are outside somewhere. If he hid them inside somewhere above freezing decomp would already be occuring and there would be no reason not to tell....

jmo

 

[Cubby]

My DH and I have made generous donations to a number of organizations, family funds, etc. for many years. In one instance, we attended a fund-raising event for which the money was to be used for a specific purpose. We later learned that the medical equipment for which the fundraiser was held was not appropriate for the intended recipient, so the money was used for another purpose. This has left us skeptical about making donations without knowing exactly how the money will be spent. jmo

I understand. There are otherways to donate without donating cash. Also, the bank may have something set up where people wishing to donate can inquire as to how the funds may be used. I guess I was just trying to say I wouldn't jump the gun that funds would be used to assist JS or that they would be specifically for a funeral when the boys have not yet been recovered.

hth

 

[Java]

Respectfully snipped and BBM. I'm sure it was premeditated once he believed he could not convince his STBX wife to work on the relationship....

The whole fake suicide and having a friend pick him up in MI ( someone pls confirm if the friend picked him up in MI... ) and drive him to OH... really leads me to believe the children are not in OH, but actually in MI. IF he really wanted to kill himself -he bleeping would have. As much as he is not cooperating I really think part of his plan would be to avoid the DP if caught.... though, I don't think he thought he'd be caught..... but I have a feeling the kids are in MI for some reason. Could be wrong....

Are there any searches occuring in MI in addition to OH?

Me TOO!
Exactaly what I was going to say. Now I'm thinking the boy's are in MI.

I'd like to know for sure how he got to the hosp too, and who the "friend" is!
Is it a "mystery friend" like Joanne Taylor??
Everything that has come out of this guy's mouth, hasn't been true so far.

ETA: I’ve also wondered for a while now, if he just drove that blue van through the toll cameras as a diversion as well. Knowing authorities would be looking at that.

 

[passionflower]

Oh my, poor searchers...............temps are going down, ice and snow here in West PA.
OH area????

 

[passionflower]

I agree, boys are probably closer to home in MICH.
This was planned so JS knows about DP.
Mich has no DP.
Why would he take boys to OH, there is DP there.
IMO, go search in MI closer to the home he is MOST familiar with!
To get even with the boys mom, he may have dumped them near her home???
Are there searches in MI also???

 

[the seeker]

You know....Im just plain exhausted. I was going to weigh in on this one, but I just cant, so close on the heels of the Zahra deal. I'll be reading though, and praying. Praying that these little angels be found soon...and hoping that for ONCE justice is swift.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Maybe I am misunderstanding the situation but I thought he didn't have any charges in OH, the kidnapping charges are from MI. I'm not so sure the state is ready to charge him for the murders just yet. He allegedly admitted to FBI agents he killed them but they need more than just his word to charge him for their murders.
He is fighting extradition to be a pain in the you know what and to prolong going back to MI. Typical stall tactic.

JMO

Sorry if my post sounded confusing. I was paraphrasing comments that were made by a local reporter following the press conference. He said something about there being similar charges in Ohio if JS doesn't return to Michigan to face charges here.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I understand. There are otherways to donate without donating cash. Also, the bank may have something set up where people wishing to donate can inquire as to how the funds may be used. I guess I was just trying to say I wouldn't jump the gun that funds would be used to assist JS or that they would be specifically for a funeral when the boys have not yet been recovered.

hth

In the case of burial expenses, such funds are usually set up through the funeral home, i.e. Nevaeh Buchanan - also from Michigan. Donations are specifically used for burial costs.

 

[Cubby]

The attitudes of JS' mother and sister go in line with my ongoing suspicion that JS may have handed them off alive to someone (friend, relative, trucker).

Also, his apparent controlling behavior and his game-playing with LE/FBI (the lies, the wild goose chase search tips)...

I still haven't seen a solid MSM article with a quote from LE that he admitted to killing them (just "according to sources, Police Chief Weeks said...").

With all the training of LE, FBI, mental health professionals...is it possible that he could pull off a lie that he killed them (if he said that)?

speculation:

Could the boys be alive? Maybe he thinks that would be the second best way to torture TS...for her (and almost everyone else) to believe the boys are dead but not found. Meanwhile they are alive and would go on to live their lives hidden somewhere until discovered, or old enough to either escape or be on their own. Then they might seek out help and maybe their maternal side of the family.

IF he had handed them off...I would hope that it was to someone who would raise them in a loving home and community. But I have zero confidence that he was capable of making such a good choice. And, of course, IMO, he had no moral or legal right to do such.

It is difficult to come up with a best-case scenario within the confines of what info has been released.

If he handed them off... who would he get to house them with the national media attention and risk going to prison for him? Maybe his family? I'm not feeling his sister or mom would hide the kids - especially if they are talking to the media.

All the 'going underground' I'm familiar with is for both parent and child.. so why would he not be missing along with the children?

I wish we knew more about the friend he called to take him to the hospital and why. Why not go on the run himself? Everyone would have assumed the boys were alive and well and this was a parental kidnapping. (Tons of them listed at NCMEC... ).

He had to have a reason why he chose to call the friend claiming he was suicidal.... That might be too simple. Perhaps the thought he could manipulate with the poor me if he was able to with those he was in communication with about this troubles prior to acting upon the most horrific act of revenge he could commit against his children and STBX.

JMO and just thinking outloud.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't think he is holding off telling where the boys can be found due to decomposition...more likely to me that he plans to plead not guilty and withdraw his confession that he killed them...his lawyer will say he made that statement while on meds in a psych unit...

 

[truckengirl]

My husband is a truck driver and we both keep wondering if he has them stashed in a semi-trailer somewhere. They have generators on them that will run heat inside of them. The only thing is if he really did this the disel fuel that runs the generator would run out eventually. This is just one opinion that we have of what he may have done to them. Another opinion is that if he killed them he may have hid their bodies inside an old abandoned semi-trailer somewhere. Remember he is a truck driver and people that do things like this usually use something that is familiar to them, as in the other Ohio murders where he knew trees and hid their bodies in the tree.

 

[Java]

Long Haul truck driver?
Knows about toll cameras, weigh stations, check points.

If it is proven to be “his” Blue Van going through a toll camera, I think he did it on purpose.
And the boy’s may be in the opposite direction. Or even close to home.
He may of also planned this to take place on his next visitation (Thanksgiving)
And had a place prepared to put the boy’s before the visit, rather than just leaving them out in the open to be found.

But I agree - He won't be tellin' He's going to play this to the very end.

 

[trigger]

My husband is a truck driver and we both keep wondering if he has them stashed in a semi-trailer somewhere. They have generators on them that will run heat inside of them. The only thing is if he really did this the disel fuel that runs the generator would run out eventually. This is just one opinion that we have of what he may have done to them. Another opinion is that if he killed them he may have hid their bodies inside an old abandoned semi-trailer somewhere. Remember he is a truck driver and people that do things like this usually use something that is familiar to them, as in the other Ohio murders where he knew trees and hid their bodies in the tree.

Now you got me thinking...are there truck stops in the search area? Maybe they are in a abandon semi??

 

[Cazzie]

If he handed them off... who would he get to house them with the national media attention and risk going to prison for him? Maybe his family? I'm not feeling his sister or mom would hide the kids - especially if they are talking to the media.

All the 'going underground' I'm familiar with is for both parent and child.. so why would he not be missing along with the children?

I wish we knew more about the friend he called to take him to the hospital and why. Why not go on the run himself? Everyone would have assumed the boys were alive and well and this was a parental kidnapping. (Tons of them listed at NCMEC... ).

He had to have a reason why he chose to call the friend claiming he was suicidal.... That might be too simple. Perhaps the thought he could manipulate with the poor me if he was able to with those he was in communication with about this troubles prior to acting upon the most horrific act of revenge he could commit against his children and STBX.

JMO and just thinking outloud.

I don't have much to go on other than accounts I've read here and there over the years. I don't assume that "underground networks" would not take kids with no adult. I'm talking about groups that would help get kids/families to a presumably better situation. Someone posted here that there is definitely a network(s) of truckers that transport people, and I have read of such.

I'm not talking about child trafficking (please, no!). What I'm speculating is that a relative or other person/couple/group might hide them, on a rural property maybe...maybe even outside the U.S.

I may just be desperately trying to find an alternative that is better than the worst several scenarios that seem to be possible, too.

 

[NSS]

this is what the breaking news banner on wtol says:

Skelton to fight extradition for kidnapping charges of missing boys

http://www.wtol.com/

I retract my earlier thoughts that maybe this loving father had acted in despair.

He knows that the boys are hidden in Ohio and that finding them will show that he also killed them on scene. He is facing the DP if he stays there ---- so I say 'let him'.

His lawyer will say that it can't be 'shown' that he kidnapped them in MI, and he may well be right. If JS left the house prior to 2pm Friday (and it's likely he did, given the boys were in PJs and the car sighting on the turnpike) then it was during HIS custodial visit.

They became 'kidnapped' after they were due home on Friday, but by then they were probably already dead. You can't kidnap a corpse.

Panic not though, for whilst he is fighting extradition, LE will be building a murder case against him, and he may need to face THOSE charges right there in OH.

Please let the boys be found whilst he is playing 'legal limbo'

 

[Cazzie]

Originally Posted by Cubby

I wish we knew more about the friend he called to take him to the hospital and why. Why not go on the run himself? Everyone would have assumed the boys were alive and well and this was a parental kidnapping. (Tons of them listed at NCMEC... ).

SBM.

Has anyone seen anything from LE that they located and questioned this alleged friend who gave him a ride to the hospital in OH? Perhaps it was a trucker friend...? I suppose it's possible that he hitch-hiked there, too. I don't believe much, if anything, that he's said.

 

[trigger]

Long Haul truck driver?
Knows about toll cameras, weigh stations, check points.

If it is proven to be “his” Blue Van going through a toll camera, I think he did it on purpose.
And the boy’s may be in the opposite direction. Or even close to home.
He may of also planned this to take place on his next visitation (Thanksgiving)
And had a place prepared to put the boy’s before the visit, rather than just leaving them out in the open to be found.

But I agree - He won't be tellin' He's going to play this to the very end.

Did I hear correctly that LE is not going to let people search on Friday, that they are going to go over all the evidence they have and see what they come up with and start over. I heard this in my sleep.

 

[Java]

Oh my goodness just took a spin around the area, state line, house etc. on Google Earth.
It’s a whole farming community! These boy’s could be buried anywhere.
I hope LE has some good evidence to help them lead the searches. JS is just telling them all sorts of things.
Please let them be found.

 

[joshiesmom]

Can someone please provide a MSM link showing that JS did, in fact, admit to killing his sons?

I don't want to read articles stating that 'a source said' it. I want to read an article where authorities state definitively that JS said those words.

I don't believe he confessed to anything yet. If he had, he would have been charged with murder and he still hasn't.

This article http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40452843/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/ says only that

Skelton was arrested Tuesday on three counts of parental kidnapping, and so far, police say, the boys' father hasn't told authorities much that they can use as the search for the boys evolves from rescue to recovery.

To me, that doesn't sound like the guy confessed anything. It's bugging me that everyone here is talking as though he has totally confessed and so far, there is no police confirmation of that whatsoever (that I am aware of). If I am wrong, please provide the link for me so that I can get on the same track.

For the record, I think the guy did kill those boys. I'm in no way defending that . I would just like confirmation of this alleged confession because I don't like to make assumptions in cases like this.