Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 2

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PSA

You had to bring this up again huh ?

You know I have studied about this since Fran brought it up and actually Otto kind of jogged my brain a bit more a couple of posts ago.

I think Otto is correct - Jason has not been back to that house and he did not tour it with police to verify if anything was missing. Now we don't know if any other close proximity family member would have done so - or would have been capable of doing so. What we do know for certain is the only person that has been in that house that would have a reasonable knowledge of items in the house was Meredith.

Meredith could verify if there was a fax or print out or whatever it was suppose to be. Since she would have known where to go in the house to get it, she would have known if the machine printing it out or the source (computer) was present or not.

Meredith could also verify if wedding rings and personal items such as MY's purse and such where accounted for.

I'm thinking Meredith could be the only person besides the police to know what is missing. If the fax is missing, does the person who says something is missing defend Jason or not ? I would think NOT if that fax is missing.

cool, my timing is perfect here.....went to ctv....the person states that "yes" something was missing/taken, from what they've been told......

you're right raisin...Meredith would know, most likely, if the fax was not there...i must assume that she hung around the house for a bit, once LE got there...so she had to have gone over, with LE, the reason she was there to start with....LE would most surely go & check if there really as a fax......hmmmm, my line of thinking was that there WOULD be a fax there for her to retrieve....hmmmmm

OH, & yes, the person that's commenting on all of this, DOES think JY had something to do with it....he/she states there's just too many coincidences...

 

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oh, another thing....on Greta's show the other night, it was mentioned that nothing was missing....purse, keys, things of that nature, of Michelle's....

 

[j2mirish]

PSA

You had to bring this up again huh ?

You know I have studied about this since Fran brought it up and actually Otto kind of jogged my brain a bit more a couple of posts ago.

I think Otto is correct - Jason has not been back to that house and he did not tour it with police to verify if anything was missing. Now we don't know if any other close proximity family member would have done so - or would have been capable of doing so. What we do know for certain is the only person that has been in that house that would have a reasonable knowledge of items in the house was Meredith.

Meredith could verify if there was a fax or print out or whatever it was suppose to be. Since she would have known where to go in the house to get it, she would have known if the machine printing it out or the source (computer) was present or not.

Meredith could also verify if wedding rings and personal items such as MY's purse and such where accounted for.

I'm thinking Meredith could be the only person besides the police to know what is missing. If the fax is missing, does the person who says something is missing defend Jason or not ? I would think NOT if that fax is missing.

I have read so much, I am confusing myself now ! is it a fact, or another "friends" comment that there is something missing from the house-- did the sheriff state this, or is it just a post from someone?

 

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PSA

You had to bring this up again huh ?

You know I have studied about this since Fran brought it up and actually Otto kind of jogged my brain a bit more a couple of posts ago.

I think Otto is correct - Jason has not been back to that house and he did not tour it with police to verify if anything was missing. Now we don't know if any other close proximity family member would have done so - or would have been capable of doing so. What we do know for certain is the only person that has been in that house that would have a reasonable knowledge of items in the house was Meredith.
Meredith could verify if there was a fax or print out or whatever it was suppose to be. Since she would have known where to go in the house to get it, she would have known if the machine printing it out or the source (computer) was present or not.

Meredith could also verify if wedding rings and personal items such as MY's purse and such where accounted for.

I'm thinking Meredith could be the only person besides the police to know what is missing. If the fax is missing, does the person who says something is missing defend Jason or not ? I would think NOT if that fax is missing.

in the bold letters......VERY good point here & another reason why i feel JY is responsible...wouldn't any normal human being, at SOME point, want to go into the house with LE to SEE if anything's missing, to help with the investigation????.....that just 'screams' at me.....

 

[raisincharlie]

I have read so much, I am confusing myself now ! is it a fact, or another "friends" comment that there is something missing from the house-- did the sheriff state this, or is it just a post from someone?

The reference to something missing comes from one of the "friends". The only thing the police have admitted to is no forced entry. I think care needs to be taken when viewing comments from the "friends" so the truth is we don't KNOW if anything is missing at all. Just more speculation at this point.

 

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The reference to something missing comes from one of the "friends". The only thing the police have admitted to is no forced entry. I think care needs to be taken when viewing comments from the "friends" so the truth is we don't KNOW if anything is missing at all. Just more speculation at this point.

right, right....this person was apparently told by someone else that something was missing......

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Hi Ocean - I've long seen all your posts, stats, comments and posts, but that's 33% FEMALE HOMICIDES. (period)

FEMALE FETAL HOMICIDES being killed by their spouse or biological father is the actual crux of this issue.

You must have those horrific, unbelievable stats, yeah? Aren't they absolutely atrocious???? Makes the female homicide number pale into insignificance... tenfold if not more ...

PSA

Hi PSA!

Yes I am aware of those statistics and that the odds go up but it still does not make things an absolute.

Henry Lucas came to our town years ago and murdered an 8.5 month pregnant woman in a convenience store. He did not know her, she just got in his way and he had no regard for any human life, including her little boy soon to be born.

A year ago a man from our town was found guilty of fetal homicide along with vehicular homicide to the child's mother. He did not know her..he was drunk as a skunk.

So I am not ever saying that these stats are not to be considered but what I am saying there are no absolutes that it is always the spouse that kills when a fetus is involved.

For that to be obtained there must be evidence and maybe there is but it hasn't been released so imo, we do not know the answer YET! one way or the other.

That's all I am saying.

IMO

Ocean

 

[raisincharlie]

in the bold letters......VERY good point here & another reason why i feel JY is responsible...wouldn't any normal human being, at SOME point, want to go into the house with LE to SEE if anything's missing, to help with the investigation????.....that just 'screams' at me.....

It is worth reiterating that the sheriff has said they have only talked very briefly with Jason on the day the body was found - this per his interview with Greta a couple of nights ago.

 

[j2mirish]

The reference to something missing comes from one of the "friends". The only thing the police have admitted to is no forced entry. I think care needs to be taken when viewing comments from the "friends" so the truth is we don't KNOW if anything is missing at all. Just more speculation at this point.

thanks r/c==
:blowkiss:

 

[otto]

The ladder was being used by the investigative team inside the garage - didn't mean to imply it was used during the crime - this tells me they were most likely recovering an electronic data source possibly related either to the alarm system and/or keyless entry systems.

Your logic concerning getting Jason over to verify anything that may be missing - I think this is a sound direction and a thought provoking observation. Do you tend to think that Michelle's purse was therefore present and possibly undisturbed ? We know the baby was not harmed so both these possibilities would tend to support a non-random crime nature I would think.

Thanks for the clarification on the ladder.

I don't know about the purse. Someone on the CTV board has said that they have inside info and something suspicious is missing. I don't think it is Michelle's purse. I think that whatever is missing is probably related to the fax. That is, maybe the fax didn't go through because the machine was turned off or something like that. There is also speculation about Michelle's jewelery being missing, but that too seems too personal and besides, Meridith would only have noticed something like a wedding band if that was missing. I'm inclined to think that the fax is missing.

 

[scandi]

Good Morning J2mirish,

LOL I was just going to say what Rasin said, as I think we are getting comments from friends. And though they might be right on, we don't know that for sure until we get confirmation of them, like the real name of the person who goes on record saying it. Printed links are even hard, because even they can be way off.

So the statement posted earlier on this thread about him not having a job now or workiing, whatever it was, and the statement about something missing both have come to us without verificdation.

Scandi

 

[j2mirish]

in the bold letters......VERY good point here & another reason why i feel JY is responsible...wouldn't any normal human being, at SOME point, want to go into the house with LE to SEE if anything's missing, to help with the investigation????.....that just 'screams' at me.....

while we are all speculating here- is there a possibility---- and i said possibility that jason has been more cooperative than we think, and it is a part of the tight lipped le?

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

PSA

You had to bring this up again huh ?

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Meredith could also verify if wedding rings and personal items such as MY's purse and such where accounted for.

I'm thinking Meredith could be the only person besides the police to know what is missing. If the fax is missing, does the person who says something is missing defend Jason or not ? I would think NOT if that fax is missing.

Hey, charlie... YES ... I had to confront the issue, lol...

So Jason didn't even return to the crime scene - see what happened - zilch (rumor - or rather; unconfirmed).

The comment that started this whole MISSING debacle was a post by someone called ECU ---- a short, sweet, abrupt post that suggested someone ask "jdub" if anything was missing at the funeral (i.e. - to ask or have asked this "jdub" character WHILE THEY WERE AT the funeral, if anything was missing...).

The tone led me to believe something significant was missing; significant to murder-identity as opposed to an arbitrary item; significant to whomsoever "jdub" is (ehem, make no error, I've created a few imaginative fillers-in for such an acronym, lol)...

It HAD to be signficant - not rings, money or clothes, etc. Otherwise why ask "jdub" what was missing? I mean if it was a stranger (anyone) they'd take what they could and dash. B-U-T .... Jason did not return to examine the contents, or so we believe, eh??

Thus, I felt that ONE SENTENCE through all those posts I read to be verrry telling.

To me, anyway. But then, there's no remedy for a stubborn old miserable goat like me, lol...

 

[Bee Charmer]

But we cannot lump all men in the pot just because some kill, can we? We dont do that when a woman's husband is murdered.

I could make as big a list Bee on female murderers as you have listed on male murderers but it doesn't mean that because some are sickening murderers (both male and female),they all are, imo.

It has been over two weeks now. I think the press is hoping this is another sensational Scott Peterson case. They are all about ratings. If there was smut out there imo they would have found it by now. They learned a lot in the SP case and that the early bird gets the worm. Yet we have heard nothing against Jason.

What I ponder is would a guilty man return to the very same county where the murder took place knowing that he could be arrested in front of the media at the graveside of his wife? Just doesn't make logical sense to me. If guilty he knows that if he stayed away and remained with his parents they would have to come there to arrest him.

I just dont think we can squeeze someone into a statistical box without knowing the evidence if any they have against Jason.

33% of female homicides are committed by their spouse, SO or someone known to them but what about the majority that arent killed by this group? Surely that has to count for something.

Unless the police is slow as pond water they have had more than ample time to check out his alibi in 16 days imo.

IMO

Ocean

Go on Blue Eyes, I'd like to see that list of wives that have killed their husbands, especially because of a pregnancy.

I'm going by statistics and the actions of this particular husband, who apparently would rather retain an attorney and remain silent, then go to the police station, with or without his lawyer and cooperate with the LE in finding the monster responsible for murdering his wife and unborn child. That kind of behavior makes me very suspicious.

 

[j2mirish]

Good Morning J2mirish,

LOL I was just going to say what Rasin said, as I think we are getting comments from friends. And though they might be right on, we don't know that for sure until we get confirmation of them, like the real name of the person who goes on record saying it. Printed links are even hard, because even they can be way off.

So the statement posted earlier on this thread about him not having a job now or workiing, whatever it was, and the statement about something missing both have come to us without verificdation.

Scandi

thank you !

 

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while we are all speculating here- is there a possibility---- and i said possibility that jason has been more cooperative than we think, and it is a part of the tight lipped le?

well, i guess :waitasec: .....but the Sheriff made it clear that they hadn't talked with JY since Nov 3rd, & that it was "briefly".....

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

in the bold letters......VERY good point here & another reason why i feel JY is responsible...wouldn't any normal human being, at SOME point, want to go into the house with LE to SEE if anything's missing, to help with the investigation????.....that just 'screams' at me.....

SCREAMS AT ME TOOOO !

 

[raisincharlie]

thanks r/c==
:blowkiss:

You are quite welcome j2mirish ! I know it gets confusing but to simplify I just remember what the sheriff has said. Not much but that's all we "know".

I'm not hot on the "friends" - each will have their own agenda - some of it may be as simple as baiting, some may be entirely sincere - its hard to know which is being tossed out.

 

[otto]

well, i guess :waitasec: .....but the Sheriff made it clear that they hadn't talked with JY since Nov 3rd, & that it was "briefly".....

That's right. I think it's the interview with Greta where he says that he spoke with Jason for about 5 minutes on November 3. We need to keep in mind that when Jason pulled up to the house, his vehicle was immediately seized. That probably put him off completely and gave him every reason to contact a lawyer to arrange having his things returned. Having his vehicle seized also made him well aware of the fact that he was a suspect, again a good reason to hire a lawyer.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

It is worth reiterating that the sheriff has said they have only talked very briefly with Jason on the day the body was found - this per his interview with Greta a couple of nights ago.

So brief, in fact, it may even have been "G'day sir/G'Day m'am" when he was issued the probable cause.

OK. I concede. That's acidic ... maybe there was a brief phone call.

Maybe the Sheriff is going "take all the time you need, we're not going anywhere and this case is not going away...".

Suffice to add, charlie, I see JY as having no inteest whatsoever to assist LE. To the point he's happy to do a U turn on anything they need. Just as that Michael Flether did while he was in jail on the day of Leann's funeral: he got a last minute order to get a 2nd autopsy done THAT DAY!!!