Michelle Young~Pregnant Mother NC Part 4

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Bed time for me...nice and 'early' for a change, lol.....12:44am

'night! Don't those flies bite Thanks again, Sami ....

 

[otto]

Hi IdahoMom! YES!! I remember reading that ... I think I wondered too - certainly SPECULATED thatb this may be the case. There's been no word from ChartOne.

Short of asking ChartOne directly or calling for JY - I really wouldn't know. Understandbaly he'd be given compassionate leave. Would you know the general period of compassionate leave in these circustances in US? Sure, it'll vary from state to state, business to business - but average time for average folk?

Where I work we have 5 days for the death of a near relative, which I think would include immediate family. On the other hand, there are ways to extend this with other types of leave. One guy I know took a stress leave to extend the time after his mom passed away.

If Jason was employed for only for 3 months, he may still have been on some sort of probationary contract and I have no idea if that would effect the types of leaves he would be eligible for. I don't think that probationary contracts in my job are eligible for extended leaves. If the leave time was not acceptable, he may have simply given notice. It would be really interesting if Jason had recently completed the probationary time and was eligible for leaves ... and even more interesting if his review was unsatisfactory.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

It would be really interesting if Jason had recently completed the probationary time and was eligible for leaves ... and even more interesting if his review was unsatisfactory.

Pssst: maybe he didn't have an official busines meeting :silenced:

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Thanks, otto. Gosh, I couln't imagine 5 days (touch wood - trust in God) if my spouse passed away. I'd need minimum 10 working days just to get the strength to go outside my DOOR!

So - is it reasonable to suggest that, due to a baby daughter and his pregnant wife murdered, an extended period to cover the whole gamut of all that's involved with LE, etc, may be granted? Even if the employee accepted unpaid leave for an additional period of time?

3 months ... that's not long ... wonder where he was before?

 

[Masissy]

Oh dear, I am so behind. Hubby hates for me to be on this site when I am at home (so I have to do it at work ). Anything of significance? Have they arrested JY? What is taking so long?

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Ahhh here it is...

"I met him in the yard and told him what happened," Gerald McIntyre, the stepfather, said from his home in Brevard.

When his wife's body was found, Jason Young was in Brevard visiting his mother, Patricia Young, and McIntyre after a business trip, Harrison said.

These two statements within one news report...one is incorrect. This is what's been buggin me for hours.

Now JY was NOT at his parents visiting at the time when MY's body was found. His own stepfather says so.

He was still onroute to their house or he would've been there when the call came through......and why was he not contacted via cell phone before his mother/stepfather notified? JY is after all legal next of kin. Why was a message not left for him to contact LE urgently?
Around 1:23 - 1:30pm body found by Meredith
911 call lasted more than 5 minutes (recording is edited remember).
EMS dispatched probably as soon as Meredith said "I think my sister is dead" because the address would have on screen at 911 office.
No idea how far away they had to come from.
Call the routed to Sheriff's dept and call receiver states to Brent that Sheriff is already onroute....uncertain what he is about to walk into. All he knows is that a person may be deceased at a residence.
Preliminary observations of crime scene begin on arrival of Sheriff at house. Including....

Arrival of Crime Scene Investigators.
Securing of crime scene.
Ascertaining that the perp was not still on site although obviously long gone from area.
Prelim 'interview' of Meredith to ascertain what she knows, possible discussions with Cassidy and one of the top priorities would have been to have Cassidy removed and secured away from the premises.
Formal Positive ID of Michelle and determination that she was deceased (pronouncement of actual death).
The awaiting of the Coroner/Medical Officer
Body positioning and crime scene photographs. Samples for DNA etc.
(Somewhere in all of this would've been the removal of Meredith from the site....Also unknown is whether they had her do a walkthrough of the scene during her description of what she found when she entered the house.)


Now, all that takes time......and he still isn't at mom's house? I think the important part missing is the location/address of this business meeting.

That's exactly the caveat below, copied and pasted from your text, Sami!

He was still onroute to their house or he would've been there when the call came through......and why was he not contacted via cell phone before his mother/stepfather notified? JY is after all legal next of kin. Why was a message not left for him to contact LE urgently?


We wondered (on circa the first MY thread) if he had left his phone off. His supporters say :

"How would you like to get a call like that while you are on the road?"

Response: because he was considered to be in a business meeting, especially if he left the night before and stayed in a hotel. It was not mentioned (then) that he may be with his parents. And if he was - we're talking murder here. LE were not trying to call him to advise his cat was stuck in a tree. They may have said "Please go to the nearest police station and give us a call..."

(Last guessing - I just don't know - but I'd have thought a local officer would have been sent to the house...? These details remian quite vague, Sami.)

 

[otto]

Ooops, I forgot about the ins claim part - and I also don't THINK the police would simply accept Meredith's version of what may/may not be missing because at that stage - they still had a lot of eliminating to do.

However, I'd wager, otto, that they accepted a 'fair outline' of what she told them.

Could the OBJECT Meredith went to collect, the fax, be missing? They had to have verified her story. Did they locate anything? Jason said FAX to Mdith and in turn, Mdith handed over that same item in a statement of sorts. Jasonites tell us PRINT OUT. Maybe HE activated some print-out from whereever he was. If his Lap top impounded - would show if he sent a fax per remote (or whatever ... etc)

Meredith definitely said fax so that's clearly what she thought she was picking up. Maybe there was no fax so some people are trying to change the words to be a computer printout ... to explain the fact that no paper was sitting in a tray ready to be picked up. There are too many other ways that Jason could have had the paperwork sent to him so this is definitely something that looks really suspicious.

I agree, in terms of assessing whether there was a robbery, Meredith would have given the first impression and the police would have formed the second opinion.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Oh dear, I am so behind. Hubby hates for me to be on this site when I am at home (so I have to do it at work ). Anything of significance? Have they arrested JY? What is taking so long?

Well hello, stranger! No arrest

Though we might have thot you had been arrested for MIA!

W/c back

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Meredith definitely said fax so that's clearly what she thought she was picking up. Maybe there was no fax so some people are trying to change the words to be a computer printout ... to explain the fact that no paper was sitting in a tray ready to be picked up. There are too many other ways that Jason could have had the paperwork sent to him so this is definitely something that looks really suspicious.

I agree, in terms of assessing whether there was a robbery, Meredith would have given the first impression and the police would have formed the second opinion.

The fax is an issue: we all feel something's not right about it, otto. And ALL that trouble for a leather handbag? Anniversary gone - Christmas was then 7 odd weeks away... Suddenly, on the day he was on business, he decided to go shopping instead? He KNEW he would be away... a handbag is totally incidental to the big picture here. He could have suggested something a little more acceptable, like surprise air tickets - that require a minimum window to pay/confirm. But... a handbag? Lordie...

I *know* I read very, very early on that "testimony didn't match" and I don't to open that ugly can of worms again - but if we think logically, of course testimony does NOT match.... just to find the parts that don't match.

Our 2nd Shift here D) scandi, charlie, close, Ocean, et al, have been doing a magnificent job on the actual house, layout, access, position of body, timings, possible witnesses, what they may be looking for. Wish all those posts could come back here! Maybe when scandi or charlie come in, may give us an overview with their previous conclusions.

fran brought over charlie's amended list that sets the base for facts/time line: what know ... etc....

 

[raisincharlie]

Ahhh here it is...

"I met him in the yard and told him what happened," Gerald McIntyre, the stepfather, said from his home in Brevard.

When his wife's body was found, Jason Young was in Brevard visiting his mother, Patricia Young, and McIntyre after a business trip, Harrison said.

<snip for space>

Now, all that takes time......and he still isn't at mom's house? I think the important part missing is the location/address of this business meeting.

Samiya,

This part has buggered me for a very long time. I think it is quite reasonable to assume JY had a cell phone considering his line of work - most likely a requirement. I have wondered if LE did indeed call this number in an effort to contact him - reason says most likely. I have to wonder if there was no answer. I would also have to wonder why there was no answer. I also have to wonder while he did not return a call. As a salesman - would he lock the phone away where he could not hear it or see it - I don't think so.

For example, if I miss a call, my phone lights up and blinks - displays "1 Missed Call" so I know when someone has called. Also if there is voice mail - it rings on a given time span to alert me to the fact there is voice mail. I can then get the phone to list the number so I can return the call. Granted, not everyone has the same service - however as a salesman I would think these types of options would be rather essential. I could be way off base, wrong as heck in fact, but this lead me to believe - JY did not want any phone calls after he contacted Meredith or he chose not to answer any phone calls after he called Meredith. Right or wrong that was my gut reaction.

Someone notified his parents about this, I'm not certain LE would release this information via telephone - typical SOP is a face to face meeting. It is possible local Brevard LE, on request of Wake Co Sheriff, went out to the folks home to meet up with him and he was not there so the folks were informed. Somewhere I believe there is an article where the folks decided not to contact him while he was on the road as they felt no one should find out something this bad while they were driving alone. However, given the responsibility of LE ensuring the next of kin is contacted I am unsure why a police officer would not have remained to verify the notification was complete. It is possible the local LE knew the family and said okay knowing it would be done.

It still buggers me. I might add if LE tried to call and got no response over a period of time - they might have been buggered too.

 

[Taximom]

The fax is an issue: we all feel something's not right about it, otto. And ALL that trouble for a leather handbag? Anniversary gone - Christmas was then 7 odd weeks away... Suddenly, on the day he was on business, he decided to go shopping instead? He KNEW he would be away... a handbag is totally incidental to the big picture here. He could have suggested something a little more acceptable, like surprise air tickets - that require a minimum window to pay/confirm. But... a handbag? Lordie...

I *know* I read very, very early on that "testimony didn't match" and I don't to open that ugly can of worms again - but if we think logically, of course testimony does NOT match.... just to find the parts that don't match.

Our 2nd Shift here D) scandi, charlie, close, Ocean, et al, have been doing a magnificent job on the actual house, layout, access, position of body, timings, possible witnesses, what they may be looking for. Wish all those posts could come back here! Maybe when scandi or charlie come in, may give us an overview with their previous conclusions.

fran brought over charlie's amended list that sets the base for facts/time line: what know ... etc....

I suppose we could give JY a break on the "gift". Perhaps he's wonderfully romantic and this was a gift to celebrate some other type of anniversary, like when they first met, or their first date.

:waitasec: :liar: :waitasec:​

:snooty:​

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

I suppose we could give JY a break on the "gift". Perhaps he's wonderfully romantic and this was a gift to celebrate some other type of anniversary, like when they first met, or their first date.

:waitasec: :liar: :waitasec:​

:snooty:​

Give JASON ... a break??

Lol ... give ME a break, heh... :slap:

 

[Topsail Girl]

Hi all,

Back from a long Thanksgiving weekend and boy did I have some catching up to do!! Wanted to note that there is a Lucky 32 in Raleigh as well......

http://www.lucky32.com/raleigh.htm

I wonder if this is the one Meredith work at......

nope scratch that - it closed on Octoebr 29th I think it was

 

[Taximom]

Give JASON ... a break??

Lol ... give ME a break, heh... :slap:

LOL I thought the emoticons at the end of my comment said that for me!

 

[Taximom]

Hi all,

Back from a long Thanksgiving weekend and boy did I have some catching up to do!! Wanted to note that there is a Lucky 32 in Raleigh as well......

http://www.lucky32.com/raleigh.htm

I wonder if this is the one Meredith work at......

nope scratch that - it closed on Octoebr 29th I think it was

Hi Topsail, welcome back. How was the parade?

 

[close_enough]

good morning!....& good afternoon/evening to you Polk

got Ovaltine??...lol, i do while coffee is brewing......

 

[raisincharlie]

Well...I don't want to nit pick but we don't really know for sure if JY had his with him. I hope he did.
Boy these cops were ready for their arrival that's for sure. I gather it must be a standard search warrant for vehicle and contents. Sorry to see that part of the belongings didn't mention a lap top. I wonder if JY did unpack some things at his parents.

Very true Jilly - good news, they don't need to have the phone in its physical form. It would be nice but not essential.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

LOL I thought the emoticons at the end of my comment said that for me!

heh heh ... they did ... was laughing with you: JY? Caring? Not. Don't you think it absolutely stinks that he calls Meredith on a Friday - enlists her excited help for a secret gift for Michelle - then bluntly snubs her and MY's family the very next day - lawyers up and rides out into the sunset?

Lord above! :furious: :furious: :furious:

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

good morning!....& good afternoon/evening to you Polk

got Ovaltine??...lol, i do while coffee is brewing......

Hmmmm, diet, skimmed milk or - regular?

Both will warm the shackles of me heart ... thanks!

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Very true Jilly - good news, they don't need to have the phone in its physical form. It would be nice but not essential.

Guten Morgen, raisincharlie