Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #10

[SpringfieldMan341]

How is telling the police that someone has the power of the wind not messing with them?

I am sorry, but didn't Mike also mess with cops? I don't understand how that shows guilt or not.

And I think Garrison was more than sane. He may have been a huge creep, thief, drug peddler, and lifelong criminal....but he was definitely sane.

The cops don't bust out backhoes and shovels and waste lots of manhours and money on some two-bit loser like Garrison if he doesn't have info. No way!

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

Did anyone ever find the Janelle timeline changing sources? Would like to see that again if someone has it!

Thanks!

 

[irisheyesofblue]

Well do you see how this is frustrating?

Garrison led to two separate digs. Garrison had two Kansas escapee buddies accompany him at the grand jury regarding the missing women's case.

Garrison is the only person lead investigators and other detectives questioned in a hotel about this very case. Do you think they honestly just had the wrong guy? Or just not enough proof?

I popped back on here and this was the first thing I saw again and had to laugh. Reading “do you see how this is frustrating?” Believe me I know very well how frustrating this can be. Try telling the truth over and over again only to be told you are lying.

 

[Catmommy]

I am sorry, but didn't Mike also mess with cops? I don't understand how that shows guilt or not.

And I think Garrison was more than sane. He may have been a huge creep, thief, drug peddler, and lifelong criminal....but he was definitely sane.

The cops don't bust out backhoes and shovels and waste lots of manhours and money on some two-bit loser like Garrison if he doesn't have info. No way!

Desperate investigators with no other fresh leads to follow might do just about anything if they thought it could result in finding the women. They may have taken information from you or me back then if they thought there was a possibility when they had no other.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

Desperate investigators with no other fresh leads to follow might do just about anything if they thought it could result in finding the women. They may have taken information from you or me back then if they thought there was a possibility when they had no other.

Yeah. They only seemed desperate on TV. I don’t buy that it was a Hail Mary pass.

I’m certain they know the full story. Their profile seems oddly specific. And it aligns with Wright’s profile.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Hahaha. Seriously? I bought weed from Garrison once.
I’m not going to name any other of my old drug hookups. None of them were connected to this case in any way.

And you know this how? Because you know who did it????

 

[irisheyesofblue]

And you know this how? Because you know who did it????

There are other ways to know someone is not connected to this case other than knowing who did it. Also when we do have any inkling that we know who did it we do contact the SPD. The thing is it has never been about things in Mike’s past because that goes no where. It has always been about things people tell us now.

 

[Santachrist]

I am sorry, but didn't Mike also mess with cops? I don't understand how that shows guilt or not.

And I think Garrison was more than sane. He may have been a huge creep, thief, drug peddler, and lifelong criminal....but he was definitely sane.

The cops don't bust out backhoes and shovels and waste lots of manhours and money on some two-bit loser like Garrison if he doesn't have info. No way!

Steve Garrison told the FBI that Dusty and I came over to his trailer one night and while sitting in his living room, I told him I had “the power of the wind” and to prove to him that I did, I proceeded to conjure up a small tornado inside his trailer’s living room.

The man is crazy.

What is even weirder is that the FBI took him seriously enough to ask me if it really happened. He seriously looked me in the eye and asked me if I had the power of the wind. Let that sink in for a minute.
The FBI asked me if I had superpowers.

 

[scadagirl28]

Steve Garrison told the FBI that Dusty and I came over to his trailer one night and while sitting in his living room, I told him I had “the power of the wind” and to prove to him that I did, I proceeded to conjure up a small tornado inside his trailer’s living room.

The man is crazy.

What is even weirder is that the FBI took him seriously enough to ask me if it really happened. He seriously looked me in the eye and asked me if I had the power of the wind. Let that sink in for a minute.
The FBI asked me if I had superpowers.

I am wondering if he was trying to determine how crazy you were and where to go from there.

 

[thx4_medic_Babby]

Did JK ever note why she was crying?

Also related: was JK aware her friend, Stacy, was staying over at the home of the ‘other girl?’

 

[k-mac]

Did JK ever note why she was crying?

Also related: was JK aware her friend, Stacy, was staying over at the home of the ‘other girl?’

yes, it was a last minute decision to go to suzies made in the company of JK.

JK was the last known person to see the girls.
she also started ringing suzies house first thing.

someone witnessed suzie crying also.
some kind of upset occurred that made suzie decide to go home and stacy backed her up and went with her.
its not hard to see the picture here.
itsa redflag.
the denial that a problem occurred is the problem.

moo

 

[cherrymeg]

Steve Garrison told the FBI that Dusty and I came over to his trailer one night and while sitting in his living room, I told him I had “the power of the wind” and to prove to him that I did, I proceeded to conjure up a small tornado inside his trailer’s living room.

The man is crazy.

What is even weirder is that the FBI took him seriously enough to ask me if it really happened. He seriously looked me in the eye and asked me if I had the power of the wind. Let that sink in for a minute.
The FBI asked me if I had superpowers.

Were they checking if you were a cult leader or delusional. Or did they think you could summon up an indoor tornado? If that was the case I guess they would have locked you up in a lab somewhere. Very X-Files lol. I don't know how didn't say, "yes" and fart or blow air out of your mouth and then laugh.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

I popped back on here and this was the first thing I saw again and had to laugh. Reading “do you see how this is frustrating?” Believe me I know very well how frustrating this can be. Try telling the truth over and over again only to be told you are lying.

Exactly......you submitted court docs to WS and as such qualify as a 'verified' member but that will never be 'enough' for some people who's main goal here is for their theory to 'win' this macabre game of death.

Some people just enjoy 'poking the bear'

 

[Catmommy]

There seems to be a BIG hang up on a teenage girl acting what they've determined to be hinky. A teenager. Like SHE could've made three women disappear and stay disappeared, or even have known something about it and then kept it a secret ALL these years. A teenager. Theories change depending on what is revealed. To continue to insist on making the facts fit someone's personal pet theory is just the sort of thinking that keeps this a cold case.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

@Missouri Mule
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I still find the video amusing of Mrs. McCalls’s genuine surprise when she is asked if she wanted coffee - brewed by someone other than the home owner - who wasn’t there. It’s almost like she is the only one who understood the strangeness of entering to begin with.

Exactly....she was the only person who believed in boundaries and respected other people's boundaries.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Yeah...cops don't just bring in someone on a whim. He had prime knowledge and information on the case.

So much so that they took his bond down from 10k to 2500 to get him to talk. He said things only investigators knew according to the Newsleader.

He's not a serial killer like Sells or Cox. I don't think he's in the business of toying with cops for attention. Especially considering how little media he wanted during his rape trial.

Out 3 weeks, he doesn't seem like a suspect. But I do believe he has information about who did this. It's too much smoke for no fire. He had a web of drug connections and GGMC/biker connections. The entire undercurrent so to speak.

If SG had all this info you claim he has....why is this case still unsolved?
I'm betting SG, if he did have info, he'd make a deal with LE to get an early release. What's his incentive to just 'sit on' this bounty of info? I'd be playing "Let's Make A Deal"!

 

[MooseMeMuch]

There seems to be a BIG hang up on a teenage girl acting what they've determined to be hinky. A teenager. Like SHE could've made three women disappear and stay disappeared, or even have known something about it and then kept it a secret ALL these years. A teenager. Theories change depending on what is revealed. To continue to insist on making the facts fit someone's personal pet theory is just the sort of thinking that keeps this a cold case.

Teenagers aren't capable of murder and making people disappear. Because they're......teenagers.

You are correct in that they'd be the last people anyone would suspect.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

There's an article in NL paper (June '93)....this time it states JK called Stacy's mom and informed her Stacy spent the night with Suzie.

2 probs with that info.

Janelle did not tell Mrs. McCall that her and Mike had been to the house and Stacy was missing....wait for it, wait for it......(excuse) they didn't want to upset Janis (Stacy's mom).

Earlier (before noon) Janis McCall had phoned the Kirby's and already knew Stacy was at Suzie's.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Did anyone ever find the Janelle timeline changing sources? Would like to see that again if someone has it!

Thanks!

The initial source is the original police report which stated that she started calling the Delmar house at 7:30am. The timeline is then moved to approx. 9:30am or so. This was stated in later news reports, as well as directly by JK in the Disappeared ID video. So you have both the media moving the timeline, as well as JK. However, if I were to decide which I was going to take as the "Real" timeline. It would have to be the initial one JK gave to police that is noted on the original police report. 7:30am.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

I am sorry, but didn't Mike also mess with cops? I don't understand how that shows guilt or not.

And I think Garrison was more than sane. He may have been a huge creep, thief, drug peddler, and lifelong criminal....but he was definitely sane.

The cops don't bust out backhoes and shovels and waste lots of manhours and money on some two-bit loser like Garrison if he doesn't have info. No way!

And I'll add to what you've said here. Judges don't just issue Search Warrants on flimsy probable cause evidence. And Garrison told police things that ONLY police knew. Things that police knew that they stated had never been released to the public. Garrison was a Sociopath, and possibly a Psychopath as well. Wonder what that girl he raped for over 3-hours at knife point thought about him. But regardless, Sociopath or Psychopath, one can fall into these categories but still be considered sane, for sure.