MISTRIAL - Sidney Moorer on trial for the kidnapping of Heather Elvis #4

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Can someone please post the live stream link I had to shut down and restart my 'puter and lost everything. Thanks much!
 
stefaniejanine said:
I thought this too, BUT how could he be stalking her to see when her date left AND across town at the payphone at the same time?

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Glad you brought this up. Agree. I believe he stalked her that night too.
 
Did the State submit evidence of Sidney's phone records showing it's useage prior to the morning of Dec. 18th ?
 



Erin MacPherson ‏@ErinWPDE We just got word that the jury is ordering lunch. I don't think we're going to get a verdict soon.




Erin MacPherson ‏@ErinWPDE Deputies say the jury will eat while they deliberate

--tweet from 20 minutes ago.
 
TTF14 said:
So if SM was working at Sticky Fingers that night, and even if they found out he was not, why have we heard nothing from the manager of Sticky Fingers?
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Yes! Why?

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I really hope the jury can connect some of the dots between the lies and inconsistencies. So nervous. I cannot even imagine how HE's family is feeling.
 
comments he made about he was trying to "fix it" ugh
 
jillycat said:
Yes, SM called Heather from the pay phone to lure her to PTL, she hung out, posted poetry, called the number he called from, went to a restaurant, drove more, went home, and called SM and went to PTL.

Maybe, maybe not. I would be wondering who she encountered in her pre-PTL activities that were not about meeting SM at PTL.
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I think the problem making a case for anything other - there would be other texts, phone calls, whatever and there isn't. --- or she just happened to decide to go to a remote location late at night......and she just went *poof*? PTL as far as I know isn't a heavy serious crime place at all.....
 
lauriej said:



Erin MacPherson ‏@ErinWPDE We just got word that the jury is ordering lunch. I don't think we're going to get a verdict soon.




Erin MacPherson ‏@ErinWPDE Deputies say the jury will eat while they deliberate

--tweet from 20 minutes ago.
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That tells me that they want to have a verdict today if at all possible.

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My hope is the jury 's inquiries on facts from the trial are positive.

SM is so guilty of kidnapping HE, a second look at information is hopefully to strengthen the jury's mind on conviction.

IMO, LE does not have a strong enough case to attempt to take TM to trial on kidnapping.
 
Looks to me like SM told HE to meet him at Longbeards, she went there he wasn't there, waited left came back. He turns his cell on telling her
To meet him at the landing. She left and went there. He went there. She disappears.

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jillycat said:
If I'm following what you're arguing, she was kidnapped by lure through the pay phone call after he bought a pregnancy test, and now she's gone after meeting him at the boat landing. I realize there's more evidence than that, but I'm referring to the critical chain of events right before her disappearance that the state says makes SM her kidnapper.

If I was juror, I'd be asking myself this: If she was being kidnapped by lure to PTL for whatever purpose, what was she doing messing with her Tumblr, driving to a restaurant and hanging out, leaving, going back, going home, then calling SM, then deciding to drive to PTL? If the pregnancy test was part of the mission for SM, where does it fit? Certainly not PTL.

My problem would be that the gap between the lure call and PTL, and the fact that no one can show me who was in the truck, casts reasonable doubt on who was doing what that night from what phone and what vehicle at what time. I wouldn't have trouble concluding that SM's involved in a crime against Heather. I'd have trouble taking the circumstantial trail I was given and linking up SM and Heather at PTL after she journeyed around post-lure call and we have no idea who else was moving around at the same time. It's the additional passage of time and other events in between, plus the gap in where SM, not his phone or his truck, was during this time that would give me pause.
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I just wrote a post about some of these questions swirling around in people's minds and wondered if people on the jury would be asking themselves things like this.



Bri said she was going to sleep on it. She couldn't sleep and was occupying herself/her mind with Tumblr. Then she decided to drive around thinking should I/shouldn't I call him. The preggo test has to fit? Well if it was to snatch her and force her to take the test, what would have been a better place to snatch her than the darkest road possible? You can't be sure SM was in the truck after the payphone call and Heather feared TM, but she would meet her at PTL. What was SM doing in the gaps in time? Why does that matter if the chain ended with his truck going to and fro after the last time Heather's phone log ended?
 
JMO
Its very telling that we now know TM slapped him which shows she gets physically violent. TM allegedly got physical confrontation with HE too in the other incident at TK.
Pattern of physical violence from TM.
 
Hatfield said:
I cant believe the video was not transcribed either for the jury. The jury needs some good clear documents to see and that was one of my biggest complaints about the states case. I do wonder if this judge limited things and maybe that is why the prosecution team could not give a transcript. If judge did things like that then he needs to be removed from the bench.
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I don't recall during pre trial that the prosecution asked for a transcript and that was bantered about.

I will sit on my hands as far as opinions for both prosecution and defense in this case... at least for the next 5 minutes
 
jillycat said:
Yes, SM called Heather from the pay phone to lure her to PTL, she hung out, posted poetry, called the number he called from, went to a restaurant, drove more, went home, and called SM and went to PTL.

Maybe, maybe not. I would be wondering who she encountered in her pre-PTL activities that were not about meeting SM at PTL.
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BBM --This might raise reasonable doubt for some people.
 
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