GUILTY MN - Eli Hart, 6, found deceased in mother’s trunk, Mound, 20 May 2022 *Arrest*

[borndem]

It.just.never.stops.

 

[Niner]

Tuesday, May 24th:
*First Appearance (@ 1:30pm CT) - MN - Eli Hart (6) (Found deceased in mother's trunk, May 20, 2022, Mound) - only for *Julissa Angelica Genrich Thaler (28) “mother” arrested (5/21/22) & charged (5/23/22) with 2nd degree murder (with intent/not premeditated) & firearm use or possession. $2M bond, with conditions & no contact with witnesses.
*Robert Paul Pikkarainen (27) arrested (5/21/22) for probable cause of murder. No formally charged yet. No bond.
According to the Orono Police Dept, officers received a call just before 7:10am. on a report of a suspicious vehicle driving on a rim with its back window smashed out. When officers located the vehicle, they conducted a traffic stop at Shoreline Drive & Bartlett Boulevard in the city of Mound and noticed blood inside the vehicle. Court records reveal that Eli Hart's father, Tory Hart, had been fighting for custody against Hart's mother. In January 2021, Dakota County filed a child protection services (CPS) order & gave legal & physical custody of Eli Hart to Dakota County Social Services. Tory Hart filed to establish full custody on March 11, 2022 & on March 30 a judge ruled to maintain Dakota County Social Services' custody of the boy. The case was then given an inactive status while the Dakota County CPS case was being resolved. On May 10, Eli Hart's mother was granted full custody. Police say that the boy’s death is being investigated as a domestic incident. An autopsy revealed Eli was shot multiple times & that his mother, Julissa Thaler, had human remains in her hair when arrested by police.
5/23/22 Update: Charged with 2nd degree murder-with intent/not premeditated & firearm use or possession. First appearance hearing on 5/24/22.

 

[Niner]

@Tippy Lynn - can you find the other person that was arrested with her? This Robert Pikkarainen - his case #?

TIA!

and Thanks for her case #.

 

[Niner]

Just found this:

for Pikkarainen from jail site.

Case: 1
Charge: 1
Description:
MURDER
Charged By:
ORONO PD
Reason for Arrest:
PROBABLE CAUSE
Severity of Charge:
PROB CAUSE
State of Charge:
36 HOURS EXPIRED
Bail Information:
$0 NBR/JAIL
MNCIS Case #:
Court Appearance:

Case: 2
Charge: 1
Description:
ASSAULT - 4TH DEGREE - PEACE OFFICER - PHYSICALLY ASSAULTS
Charged By:
MINNEAPOLIS PD
Reason for Arrest:
CONTINUED CASE
Severity of Charge:
GROSS MISD
State of Charge:
Bail Information:
$0 HOLD W/O BAIL
MNCIS Case #:
27CR206950
Court Appearance:
5/24/22, 1:30 PM
DOWNTOWN

link: Jail Roster | Hennepin County

 

[Niner]

So - redoing this one...

Tuesday, May 24th:
*First Appearance (Thaler) & Probation Violation Hearing (Pikkaraine) (@ 1:30pm CT) - MN - Eli Hart (6) (Found deceased in mother's trunk, May 20, 2022, Mound) - *Julissa Angelica Genrich Thaler (28) “mother” arrested (5/21/22) & charged (5/23/22) with 2nd degree murder (with intent/not premeditated) & firearm use or possession. $2M bond, with conditions & no contact with witnesses.
*Robert Paul Pikkarainen (27) arrested (5/21/22) for probable cause of murder. No formally charged yet. No bond.
*Charged with 4th degree assault, peace officer/physically assaults. No bond.
According to the Orono Police Dept, officers received a call just before 7:10am. on a report of a suspicious vehicle driving on a rim with its back window smashed out. When officers located the vehicle, they conducted a traffic stop at Shoreline Drive & Bartlett Boulevard in the city of Mound and noticed blood inside the vehicle. Court records reveal that Eli Hart's father, Tory Hart, had been fighting for custody against Hart's mother. In January 2021, Dakota County filed a child protection services (CPS) order & gave legal & physical custody of Eli Hart to Dakota County Social Services. Tory Hart filed to establish full custody on March 11, 2022 & on March 30 a judge ruled to maintain Dakota County Social Services' custody of the boy. The case was then given an inactive status while the Dakota County CPS case was being resolved. On May 10, Eli Hart's mother was granted full custody. Police say that the boy’s death is being investigated as a domestic incident. An autopsy revealed Eli was shot multiple times & that his mother, Julissa Thaler, had human remains in her hair when arrested by police.
5/23/22 Update: Thaler: Charged with 2nd degree murder-with intent/not premeditated & firearm use or possession. First appearance hearing on 5/24/22. Pikkarainen: Case #: Probable cause of murder & Case #2: charged with 4th degree assault on a peace officer/physical assault. Probation violation earing for Case #2 on 5/24/22 @ 1:30pm.

 

[Niner]

Here's a more explanation on his charges that will be heard today. He violated his probation when he got arrested the other day.


Case Number Citation Number Defendant Info Filed/Location/Judicial Officer Type/Status
Charge(s) Disposition/Level of Sentence
27-CR-20-6950
PIKKARAINEN, ROBERT PAUL
09/14/1994

03/16/2020
Hennepin Criminal/Traffic/Petty Downtown
Janzen, Lisa K

Crim/Traf Mandatory
Under Court Jurisdiction

ASSAULT-4TH DEG-PEACE OFFICER-PHYSICALLY ASSAULTS-G
Convicted
Convicted of a Gross Misdemeanor

DOMESTIC ASSAULT-MISDEMEANOR-INTENTIONALLY INFLICTS/ATTEMPTS TO INFLICT BODILY HARM ON ANOTHER
Dismissed

DOMESTIC ASSAULT-MISDEMEANOR-COMMITS ACT TO CAUSE FEAR OF IMMEDIATE BODILY HARM OR DEATH
Dismissed

DISORDERLY CONDUCT-OFFENSIVE/ABUSIVE/NOISY/OBSCENE
Dismissed


Docket:
05/23/2022 Detention Ordered Index # 64 (Judicial Officer: Janzen, Lisa K )

05/23/2022 Interim Condition for PIKKARAINEN, ROBERT PAUL
- Follow all instructions of probation
- Conditions, other
- Contact with probation
- Random testing
- Remain law-abiding
- Take medications in the prescribed dosage and frequency
- Make all future court appearances
- No alcohol/controlled substance use
- Hold Without Bail or Bond

05/23/2022 Probation Violation Report Index # 65

05/24/2022 Probation Violation Hearing (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Ede, Keala)
05/24/2022 Reset by Court to 05/24/2022

05/25/2022 Review Hearing (10:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Janzen, Lisa K)


link: https://pa.courts.state.mn.us/Search.aspx?ID=100

 

[Tippy Lynn]

@Tippy Lynn - can you find the other person that was arrested with her? This Robert Pikkarainen - his case #?

TIA!

and Thanks for her case #.

He won't have a new case number unless he is officially charged in this case. His case number will be for his charge that he violated probation on. 27-CR-20-6950

 

[Niner]

He won't have a new case number unless he is officially charged in this case. His case number will be for his charge that he violated probation on. 27-CR-20-6950

Okay - thanks!

 

[Niner]

Here's a good article about the case.

Woman charged with shooting 6-year-old son whose body was found in trunk during traffic stop

Minneapolis man is jailed on suspicion of murder related to the boy's death.

www.startribune.com

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Here's a good article about the case.

Woman charged with shooting 6-year-old son whose body was found in trunk during traffic stop

Minneapolis man is jailed on suspicion of murder related to the boy's death.

www.startribune.com

Social workers and Dakota County officials who oversaw the case failed Eli. They need to be held accountable.

 

[Niner]

Social workers and Dakota County officials who oversaw the case failed Eli. They need to be held accountable.

I truly agree with you on this! Geez - after reading that article about what family said - everything they said fell on deaf ears... poor Eli...

 

[musicaljoke]

Social workers and Dakota County officials who oversaw the case failed Eli. They need to be held accountable.

From the article quoted upthread: "Documents from Dakota County court detail concerns social workers had about Thaler’s mental health, criminal history and living situation."

It seems like the social workers knew there was a problem, but the judge awarded custody in spite of their concerns. It's not the social workers failure if the judge won't listen to them.

2 Arrested After Boy's Body Found In Trunk; Victim Identified As Eli Hart

On Saturday, the superintendent for Westonka Public Schools said the victim is believed to be a kindergarten student at Shirley Hills Primary School. Police say that they are investigating the incident as a domestic.

minnesota.cbslocal.com

 

[Niner]

From the article quoted upthread: "Documents from Dakota County court detail concerns social workers had about Thaler’s mental health, criminal history and living situation."

It seems like the social workers knew there was a problem, but the judge awarded custody in spite of their concerns. It's not the social workers failure if the judge won't listen to them.

2 Arrested After Boy's Body Found In Trunk; Victim Identified As Eli Hart

On Saturday, the superintendent for Westonka Public Schools said the victim is believed to be a kindergarten student at Shirley Hills Primary School. Police say that they are investigating the incident as a domestic.

minnesota.cbslocal.com

Well - then I wonder "how" the Judge is feeling now...
and wonder "who" this Judge is...

 

[Tippy Lynn]

KARE 11 Investigates: Despite red flags, child protection closed the case of 6-year-old weeks before his murder

Eli Hart’s social worker and court guardian had clear concerns about the boy’s care under his mother, Julissa Thayer, but agreed to close the case anyway.

www.kare11.com

So why did a Dakota County judge close the child protection case?

He was following the recommendations made by the very social workers who raised those red flags, who wanted the case to proceed in family court, records show.

The boy’s father, Tory Hart, filed for full custody of the boy in March, but the judge in that case made it inactive as long as the child protection case remained open.
Under state law, the only way for the custody case to move forward was to close the protection case.

In Minnesota, child protection cases take precedence over almost any other case regarding a child’s wellbeing, said Joanna Woolman, a Mitchell Hamline School of Law professor.

 

[Niner]

Thaler:

05/23/2022 Pretrial Release Evaluation Form Index # 3

05/23/2022 Application for Public Defender Index # 4

05/24/2022 First Appearance (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Norris, Lyonel)
Result: Held On the Record

05/24/2022 Identity Verified

05/24/2022 Hearing Held Using Remote Technology

05/24/2022 Order Granting Public Defender Index # 5 (Judicial Officer: Norris, Lyonel )

05/24/2022 Interim Condition for Thaler, Julissa Angelica Genrich
- No contact with witness(es)
- Post Bail or Bond with Conditions
$2,000,000.00

06/21/2022 Omnibus Hearing (2:15 PM) (Judicial Officer Koch, William H.)

link: https://pa.courts.state.mn.us/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1629909564

 

[Niner]

I decided to separate them - makes it easier for me.

Wednesday, May 25th:
*Review Hearing (Probation violation) (@ 10am CT) - MN - Eli Hart (6) (Found deceased in mother's trunk, May 20, 2022, Mound) - *Robert Paul Pikkarainen (27) arrested (5/21/22) for probable cause of murder. No formally charged yet. No bond.
*Charged with 4th degree assault, peace office/physically assaults. No bond. Probation violation.
Case info see post #25 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...unk-mound-mn-20-may-2022-arrest.624357/page-2
5/23/22 Update: Case #1: Probable cause of murder & Case #2: charged with 4th degree assault on a peace officer/physical assault. Probation violation hearing for Case #2 on 5/24/22 @ 1:30pm. And review hearing on 5/25/22 @ 10am.
*Julissa Angelica Genrich Thaler (28) “mother” arrested (5/21/22) & charged (5/23/22) with 2nd degree murder (with intent/not premeditated) & firearm use or possession. $2M bond, with conditions & no contact with witnesses. Next Omnibus hearing on 6/21/22.

 

[cvaldez1975]

Mental health records sought by lawyer representing woman accused of killing 6-year-old son

Julissa Thaler won custody of son despite recent concerns over mental problems, court records show

www.startribune.com

from link - "
Court records show that Dakota County District Judge Tim Wermager awarded custody to Thaler despite recent concerns about her fitness expressed by a court-appointed guardian and a county social worker who met frequently with Thaler, her son and other family members.

In a report May 4, guardian Sherri Larson said she was "very concerned about Ms. Thaler's mental health." She noted that Thaler was trying to limit contact between the boy and his father even though Hart "appears to be a stabilizing force in Eli's life."

Larson nevertheless recommended that custody of Eli be returned to Thaler, court records show. Larson did not return calls Tuesday.

County social worker Beth Dehner also recommended that Thaler be awarded full custody despite misgivings. In a May 4 monthly report to the court, Dehner said Thaler had not attended weekly therapy sessions for months and "lacks insight into her own mental health and behavior."

Dehner said Thaler also had been neglecting the medical needs of Eli, who had a rare genetic disorder called Townes-Brocks syndrome, which led to kidney disease and hearing problems. She said Thaler failed to make sure her son's hearing aids were in working order and that she often brought him to school late.

Still, Dehner said in the report, "There is no current indication that her son is physically unsafe in her care."

Dehner did not return calls Tuesday."

UNFREAKINBELIEVABLE......

 

[cvaldez1975]

From the article quoted upthread: "Documents from Dakota County court detail concerns social workers had about Thaler’s mental health, criminal history and living situation."

It seems like the social workers knew there was a problem, but the judge awarded custody in spite of their concerns. It's not the social workers failure if the judge won't listen to them.

2 Arrested After Boy's Body Found In Trunk; Victim Identified As Eli Hart

On Saturday, the superintendent for Westonka Public Schools said the victim is believed to be a kindergarten student at Shirley Hills Primary School. Police say that they are investigating the incident as a domestic.

minnesota.cbslocal.com

no, it is. see the link I posted. they had all these concerns and decided on reunification DESPITE their concerns.

 

[musicaljoke]

no, it is. see the link I posted. they had all these concerns and decided on reunification DESPITE their concerns.

Oh my! Then yes, they should stand accountable. What a horror story.

 

[Niner]

Pikkarainen - Probation violation.

Docket:
05/23/2022 Detention Ordered Index # 64 (Judicial Officer: Janzen, Lisa K )

05/23/2022 Interim Condition for PIKKARAINEN, ROBERT PAUL
- Follow all instructions of probation
- Conditions, other
- Contact with probation
- Random testing
- Remain law-abiding
- Take medications in the prescribed dosage and frequency
- Make all future court appearances
- No alcohol/controlled substance use
- Hold Without Bail or Bond

05/23/2022 Probation Violation Report Index # 65

05/24/2022 Probation Violation Hearing (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Ede, Keala)

05/24/2022 Reset by Court to 05/24/2022
Result: Held On the Record

05/24/2022 Hearing Held Using Remote Technology

05/24/2022 Order Granting Public Defender Index # 66 (Judicial Officer: Ede, Keala )

05/25/2022 Interim Condition for PIKKARAINEN, ROBERT PAUL
- Hold Without Bail or Bond

06/08/2022 Review Hearing (10:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Janzen, Lisa K)
05/25/2022 Reset by Court to 06/08/2022

link: https://pa.courts.state.mn.us/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=1627975795