dixiegirl1035
I will do it, but I won't like it
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If the bystanders were so volatile and ready to pounce...why didn't they call for back-up...instead of having Officer Thao prancing around with his hand in his pockets...smirking.
That's probably because they want the jury to hear over and over again that Floyd stopped breathing before police called for emergency medical attention, Floyd had no pulse while they continued to restrain him, and Floyd was already dead before the ambulance arrived and the officers did nothing to save him.I haven't been able to catch up on the comments here but watched most of the testimony today. If the jury is feeling anything like I am they are bored, yawning and wonder why the same questions are being asked over and over and over again. I find the prosecutors questioning with the first responders as horribly repetitive. Essentially you are getting the exact same answers to the exact same questions from each of these witnesses. Some of the details are so minor I was expecting them to ask what side of the bed they got up from that morning. Much of it IMHO was completely unnecessary.
I haven't been able to catch up on the comments here but watched most of the testimony today. If the jury is feeling anything like I am they are bored, yawning and wonder why the same questions are being asked over and over and over again. I find the prosecutors questioning with the first responders as horribly repetitive. Essentially you are getting the exact same answers to the exact same questions from each of these witnesses. Some of the details are so minor I was expecting them to ask what side of the bed they got up from that morning. Much of it IMHO was completely unnecessary.
IMO, Nelson is trying to bring up multiple possible reasons to lessen Chauvin's culpability for Floyd's ultimate demise, and plant seeds of 'reasonable doubt' for the jury.
Like it or not, I think that Mr Nelson is doing a good job for his client so far. Having access to a competent defense is an important cornerstone of a fair justice system.
The Chief of Police is coming tomorrow to finish what Sergeant Norton started today!! I think having this testimony FROM THE POLICE (not use of force experts!) is extremely beneficial for the state. The latter part of this trial will be all medical experts! And that stuff can get tedious because both sides will have an expert!
ETA: By the way, listening to the local stations it’s obvious there was a cover up in the first few days. They were saying “medical complications” and apparently that’s what started the outrage. This is why I watch the local streams cause you get these key tidbits.
That's probably because they want the jury to hear over and over again that Floyd stopped breathing before police called for emergency medical attention, Floyd had no pulse while they continued to restrain him, and Floyd was already dead before the ambulance arrived and the officers did nothing to save him.
I think it was called in as a code 3 before he wasn't responsive. I want to say 8:21ish was called in as code 3? @dixiegirl1035 will know the answer to this!
Thanks folks. Watching back Officer Lane's bodycam I can hear him call it in originally now. Still can't hear him upgrading it to a Code 3 at the 20:21:35 point stated in the Timeline above. It comes over the radio at 20:26:35 about "EMS are on Portland, (they were advised?) to go to Code 3..." Lane asks "to what?" and Chauvin and Keung then confirm Code 3 was stated.... Still a bit unclear I think.
Wish that last question about the bystanders desperately pleading not constituting a threat would've been allowed, but he worded it wrong maybe
Would you agree that the intensity of the pleadings from people witnessing an event is not enough to constitute a threat?
IMO, Nelson is trying to bring up multiple possible reasons to lessen Chauvin's culpability for Floyd's ultimate demise, and plant seeds of 'reasonable doubt' for the jury.
Like it or not, I think that Mr Nelson is doing a good job for his client so far. Having access to a competent defense is an important cornerstone of a fair justice system.
If it were so dangerous that LE couldn't administer aid, why did they allow EMTs to arrive and administer aid? Makes no sense.And differentiation of threat vs. needing focus as was stated by EMTs... one person can do chest compressions vs knee on neck at the very least on a battlefield!
Can you list what those seeds might be? Or top 5 at least? TIA
I just don't think acting like the worried people are a violent mob are going to win him points with the jury.I agree. I think he's doing the best he can with what he has to work with.
Wish that last question about the bystanders desperately pleading not constituting a threat would've been allowed, but he worded it wrong maybe
Would you agree that the intensity of the pleadings from people witnessing an event is not enough to constitute a threat?
Someone a few threads back did great compilation of differences of the three charges. Can someone that has at their tips please repost as I cannot find.
TIA
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#DerekChauvinTrial - Next up is Captain Jeremy Norton, Minneapolis Fire Dept.
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#DerekChauvinTrial - Sgt. David Pleoger. He was the first supervisor to arrive on the scene around 8:45pm.
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#DerekChauvinTrial - Pleoger talking about MPD policy regarding using a hobble device. A supervisor needs to be called to the scene.
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#DerekChauvinTrial - Prosecutor Schleicher has referred to Chauvin as "the defendant" at least half a dozen times now. Pretrial agreement was not to refer to Chauvin as defendant and not to refer to Floyd as victim.
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#DerekChauvinTrial - In this footage Chauvin walks up to Pleoger's car. Pleoger asks him to get witness statements. Chauvin says "we can try but they're all pretty hostile."
Will make sure I am here for start of that! I missed first hour or so today xx