GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, killed in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #20

[dixiegirl1035]

I dont think he will say anything during sentencing. It might jeopardise his appeal.

Excellent point, well taken.

 

[turaj]

But nevertheless he should overcome his weakness and stand tall, take off his mask, apologize and try to explain his behaviour. Like a man and an officer with honour.

can he do that and still appeal?

 

[Dotta]

can he do that and still appeal?

I meant the trial. It was the time to talk and explain - he pled innocence so why not fight for his goood name and reputation? During sentencing it will be "mustard after dinner" haha Besides it is not a good idea if he thinks about appeal. I should have written: He should have... English is not my mother tongue, I live on other continent in a far away country

 

[Niner]

I meant the trial. It was the time to talk and explain - he pled innocence so why not fight for his goood name and reputation? During sentencing it will be "mustard after dinner" haha Besides it is not a good idea if he thinks about appeal. I should have written: He should have... English is not my mother tongue, I live on other continent in a far away country

You are not too far away from me!

 

[Dotta]

You are not too far away from me!

I know! I even visited your beautiful country, Riga to be precise with Comenius Exchange from school. WOW what hospitality I learnt to dance Latvian folk dances but nearly fainted after finishing. You, Latvian people are VERY energetic haha

 

[Apollo]

Yes, that's how I interpreted it. He's saying he felt Chauvin deserved to be convicted while recognizing that defendants are humans who make mistakes.

I keep wondering if more people would have sympathized with him if he had taken the stand and tried to explain himself. I wonder if he will make a statement or apologize to the family at his sentencing.

He wouldn't be able to explain it because he knows what he did was wrong. That's why he wanted a plea deal before the trial.
There would have been no point in him taking the stand and saying he didn't like the crowd or the other officer telling him what to do so he kept his knee on his neck. There also would have been no point in taking the stand and saying he didn't know what he was doing could kill GF---no one would have believed that.
There's nothing he could have said that would have helped his case. MOO

 

[Apollo]

I meant the trial. It was the time to talk and explain - he pled innocence so why not fight for his goood name and reputation? During sentencing it will be "mustard after dinner" haha Besides it is not a good idea if he thinks about appeal. I should have written: He should have... English is not my mother tongue, I live on other continent in a far away country

The point of taking the stand would have been to help his case.

What is it that he could have said that would have convinced you of his innocence or have convinced you he was only guilty of the lesser charges?

 

[Dotta]

Telling the truth and showing remorse is the best way of showing HUMANITY. But of course I understand complexities of defence strategies.

 

[sds71]

A posthumous pardon request was submitted on Monday to Texas officials on behalf of [URL='https://apnews.com/hub/death-of-george-floyd']George Floyd for a 2004 drug arrest that was done by a now indicted ex-Houston police officer whose case history is under scrutiny following a deadly drug raid…[/URL]

A pardon “wouldn’t erase the memory, personal or institutional, of this thing that happened to him, or the things that would happen to him later... It would show that the state of Texas is interested in fundamental fairness, in admitting its mistakes, and in working to increase the accountability for police officers who break our trust and their oaths, and harm our people rather than serve them,” Mathis said.

https://apnews.com/article/death-of-george-floyd-texas-55681131fea81c0e106fa678d29a2129

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Texas public defender's office seeks posthumous pardon for George Floyd

Oops, on phone and see SDS posted. Ad covered up on phone grrr

 

[AC's Grandma]

I did some googling and process varies...some are not allowed to take them out of courtroom including at the end of trial...some offer jurors the chance to take them with them at the end. I have to assume what Ms. Christensen is doing is okay with the court. I found it interesting how they had pick up spots in the morning and were driven to the government center. Also I guess I thought they had to deliberate in the courthouse but guess that was done at the hotel too.

I thought because she couldn't take her notes home she rewrote them at home from what she remembered that day.

 

[sds71]

Chauvin sentencing pushed back to June 25
@Niner

 

[Niner]

Chauvin sentencing pushed back to June 25
@Niner

Thanks for that update!

 

[turaj]

I thought because she couldn't take her notes home she rewrote them at home from what she remembered that day.

I really don't know what the rule is in Minnesota but if someone really comes home after a day in court and rewrites notes that they already did in court that day then I think it is fair to say they intend to write some book or do extensive media outings.

 

[turaj]

Chauvin sentencing pushed back to June 25
@Niner

They spoke of a bunch of reports that have to be completed...not sure what all of that is.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Officers with Chauvin can get different verdicts in joint trial

Tou Thao, Thomas Lane and J. Alexander Kueng are set to stand trial in August and each face two charges: aiding and abetting second-degree murder and aiding and abetting second-degree manslaughter. Prosecutors are also trying to add a third-degree murder charge.

There’s a hearing scheduled in May.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I thought because she couldn't take her notes home she rewrote them at home from what she remembered that day.

Yes, MOO.. that is what she show in the beginning. Then in the next interview she showed the "little white pad" she said jurors said was too small..the first day" on camera... and then showed the yellow bigger pad..which they had afterwards... and then at the end she showed other "night time" notes

She was telling/communicating that she had her daily notes IN COURT, with timestamps.


MOO

 

[kittythehare]

I really don't know what the rule is in Minnesota but if someone really comes home after a day in court and rewrites notes that they already did in court that day then I think it is fair to say they intend to write some book or do extensive media outings.

Maybe.
My own opinion is that she knew how important the trial was and she really wanted to get it right, remember everything so she would be in a strong position when deliberations commenced. She made prolific notes during testimony also.
Some people are note takers, others rely more on their memories..
One book, I'd find hard to handle as every detail was already published with the exception of what they ate for lunch etc..
But if it's gonna be followed by 13 more books, I'm going home.
For her own sake, I think she would have been better holding back, she emerged from a really high pressured full-on environment after a lengthy period only to be immediately exposed to world media.
It's her story, her account but like all stories it has a beginning , a middle and an end.
I have a sense that in a few years time she will look back at this time and know she would have been wiser to wait... JMO

 

[missy1974]

Juror 52 has come out ....


Listen: Black Juror In Derek Chauvin Trial Speaks Out [EXCLUSIVE]



No. 52: Black man, 30s
He said he works in the banking industry and is a youth sports coach.

In his questionnaire, he said he was neutral on Chauvin and Floyd. He said he had seen the video and has wondered why the other officers didn’t intervene.

Prosecutor Steve Schleicher questioned one of the juror's statements made during questioning by the defense. The man had said he didn’t think anyone had the intent to cause Floyd’s death.

Schleicher said Chauvin’s intentions will be contested during the trial and asked him if he’d have a problem setting aside his opinion.

“I don’t think it would be that difficult at all,” he said. “I think I can definitely look at it with an objective point of view.”

 

[Niner]

If anyone finds the May date hearing for the 3 officers - please post! TIA!