. At best, he just doesn't seem to have any empathy when he discusses the case..
Wasn't Jerry Wetterling considered a suspect early on for the same reason?
First, let's address the days the horses arrived. It was Thursday, not Saturday. ...
With that, here is a newspaper clipping from FRIDAY, October 27th, 1989. It clearly notes the horses were there the day before, on October 26th, 1989....a THURSDAY.
Great find about the horses! It really
adds value to the discussion to provide a cited source!
HDR did say that in a TvP interview...Investigators questioned him as recently as two weeks ago, February 7th [2004]. ...Trish Van Pilsum: “Why would you go to bed when a kid had just disappeared?”The Man: “I wanted to get some sleep. I wasn’t going to waste my time.”
First of all, this interview, which is posted on Joy's blog and also in transcript form Shergirl on these threads, from my perspective
is edited and spliced for sensationalism. There is no constant stream of Dan's narration and
we don't know what questions he's answering when he speaks. For instance, if we want to be charitable to Trish or her producers we can say that she wanted to avoid giving hints to DR's identity because DR was not yet a named individual...so they edited out his response that he was carrying band instruments to work that day and had Trish herself voice over "boxes. big boxes" instead of letting Dan speak for himself on what was in his car.
Second of all, the part where DR says that he went to bad that night
is not shown in full context of what question was asked. It's possible, even likely IMO, that he had already mentioned talking to the cops and searching through the outbuildings. But we'll never know because Trish edited out the uncut version of DR's answers and instead interspliced Kevin's story.....before coming back to the ever-so-titillating "waste of time" comment of DR's....which seems to me a plausible reaction to the cop's disinterest in speaking with him and overall frustration with their disorganization this evening. It seems clear to me Trish wanted the WOW! impact of the phrase "waste of time" and built it up to spectacular implications through editing. YES, DR could have used a better choice of words.
I don't see any evidence DR has given more than one account of his action this night. After he searched the buildings and spoke with the cops, who were disinterested in his story, he very likely decided to go to bed because he felt trying to help them was a waste of time. Note too, this is spoken 15 years afterwards....he's already frustrated with the cops by this point, and anyway even on a night like this is it reasonable to expect both DR and Kevin are so precise as to their movements when speaking about it over a decade later?
The only way to know the truth about the context and order of what Dan said he did in this TV interview is to see the entire unedited tape....and....I think it's imprudent for anyone to suggest DR has given two different accounts of his activities this night
based only on THIS 2004 Trish Van Pilsum story, because that would be reading a lot into the interview and making assumptions about what questions Dan is answering and whether or not the producers chopped out parts of his narrative. The fact is this tape of him this evening is clearly edited and spliced to flow with Kevin's story - DR's original, unedited response is unknown, but he says he gave Trish the account as given in Joy's blog.
http://www.joybaker.com/2010/11/06/a-few-questions-answered-but-more-to-ponder/
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Wetterling-11-St-Joseph-22-Oct-1989-4/page59
Sorry. I was believing DR. My mistake.
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How about a direct quote from DR on the subject? From April 2013...
“As they were asking me where… about 15 horses were prancing about the area where the tracks had been all week! ~ DR
So Dan says the tracks lasted a week, (and this was UP by the house, BTW when they came to question him) until the horses pranced all over them. But LE had taken casts the next day (Oct. 23rd) of the driveway. IMO, they would have checked the entire driveway, and we only have seen pics of the lower portion of the driveway, because that is where Jacob's footprint ended.
I see no contradiction in what Dan is saying,
unless you start with the assumption he is guilty and are set in bending all evidence that direction. The horses showed up on Thursday according to the article StinkSprings found. DR says later in the week
WHEN THE COPS WERE FINALLY GETTING AROUND TO INVESTIGATING HIM AND HIS HOUSE AREA FURTHER, he was
simultaneously wondering if the cops were competent since they had never bothered to check the tire tracks up by his house and there were horses trampling all over the place even as he was talking to the cops. The horses arrived Thursday according to the article. The cops got around to talking with Dan again on Saturday, when according to Dan he saw horses. Horses on more than one day seems probable; Dan didn't say when he FIRST saw horses.
Kevin All in under 6-8 minutes? It has been documented that police arrived at the scene with in 6-8 minutes. (from joyblog)...Within six minutes of receiving the 911 call, the sheriff was on the scene. Is this possible ? Does anyone know the area well enough? Does this make any sense? 1) Could Kevin have done all this, before police arrived, in lets say less than 8 minutes and not be noticed and not be pulled over?2) To be clear with everyone and Kevin, I have zero idea of who did this and I am not accusing anybody? But, His story seems incredulous? But it has been a long time for him to recall.3) One last note, probably not that important ............but, how did Kevin get to abduction scene, making all those stops, before the police?..........If, he was.... following...them?....... after he heard them on the scanner and saw them race by, down 75 with lights on?
I reject that it is reasonable for Kevin to be in Dan's driveway,
stopped, facing towards 91st street,
before the police get there all because he heard on the scanner
something had happened at the Tom Thumb.
Kevin's story is the most unbelievable aspect of this night. The fact that he now says he has nothing to hide isn't really helped by the fact that he waited 14+ years to come forward....
remember please he always knew he was the first person on the crime scene...he thought for 14 years the cops had no ineterst in him?
...oh yeah, he says he told the cops that night what he saw but they have no record of it. No one has a record of his 'medical cop' conversation at the Tom Thumb either. hmmmm.
They went to the Wetterling's
Sure, if you believe Kevin's timing is so exactly precise 14 years after the event. A scanner mentioning the Tom Thumb is a reasonable explanation to be in DR's driveway? If you don't believe that's a reasonable explanation to be in DR's driveway then it becomes apparent that Kevin may have been in the driveway before the cops ever came down 91st Street on the way to the Wetterlings. Not saying he did it; I am saying Kevin's story is ridiculous and he was obviously afraid of too much scrutiny in the aftermath of the abduction.
Your logic is solid, but the one piece you're missing is that the police went past the abduction scene to the Wetterling home. If Kevin's story is true, then it means that LE did not secure the crime scene immediately. It's a bit odd though, that just a few minutes later...a cop is stationed at Dr Cotton's office.
This timing of Kevin tonight is fantastic, in fact I don't see any reasonable explanation for it. His visit to Tom Thumb and the dental office are substantiated by Kevin and his GF only, right? Even though the cop at the dental office and people at Tom Thumb should have remembered him and his 'medical cop'?
Also, the police probably did not know what the crime scene was until they talked to the boys
Kevin says he told the cops about the crime scene and their response was they already knew.
So someone's misremembering this night: the cops or Kevin.
Says who? Kevin? Where's the record of this conversation?
People have been talking on here about the lack of FBI and how no one knew what they were doing, etc.
The newspaper article Stink posted said that 20 agents had been assigned to the case. 20! I imagine at least one had to know what to do, right?
According to ELOC's book and what tracker says, it seems to me the FBI don't really take charge but provide extra manpower. A lot of them were given the task of following up on leads from the public instead of crime scene investigation, as far as I can tell. Do we have pictures of FBI on site at the crime scene?
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