GUILTY MO - Breeann Rodriguez, 3, Senath, 6 August 2011 - #2

[cluciano63]

If she went into the irrigation ditch by accident her wheels wouldn't be in the field...and if she was put in there, it still doesn't make sense to leave her wheels behind...the wheels are a problem, no matter what happened, IMO...they just don't fit into any scenario I can think of...

 

[dsntslp]

"IF" (BIG IF) the training wheels were planted perhaps they should be searching in the opposite direction altogether, IMO.

 

[hollyblue]

And dad says they are her wheels, so... she was NOT abducted. imoo

Next thing I would like to know is if there were any CPS visits to the home recently. Did mom have a bad temper? Did Breeann maybe wet her bed that morning? Just sayin...

Trying to remember if the parents were out searching the area when the 1st wheel was found or only on Wed when the second wheel was found? Would LE take them out there to watch their reaction? Maybe nothing, but I thought it strange that the mother lead the way (from pic) and the father followed. Usually a man will lead into the wilderness. JMO

 

[gliving]

What 3 YO sleeps till 10:30/11 am unless they were up super late the night before or was sick? Has anything been said about what was going on at the house the night before? The day before?

I simply can not imagine a perp taking the child with the bike and then removing and dumping training wheels. Makes zero sense to me, zero.

I am not caught up yet from yesterday. I'll go back and read the previous thread from where I left off.

Do the parent say she was 'still asleep" or just asleep. Some little kids wake up at 6am and then take a cat nap later in the morning.


Also, any training wheels my kids had were a pain in the *advertiser censored*, always coming loose or needing adjustment. The dad said he had to rig them to make them work correctly. Still, how could Breeann have put one so far in the field? I can't figure that out. And once she lost her training wheels, she'd have to leave the bike there as she was just learning how to ride. Something is not adding up.

 

[katydid23]

With the heat Missouri has had lately, I bet irrigation is in full force. Hopefully if LE decides to drain the ditches, the farmers will be in agreement.
Sadly, it might take a bit more than a hunch to get the farmers to agree to stop watering their crops. With the Mississippi River flood early this spring and now the heat and drought, the farmers have taken a hit.

That ditch is right by where they found the training wheels. Hope Breeann didn't wander out that way and try to get a drink or cool off there.

I do not believe she could have gone for two miles on that bike without people reporting it afterwards. That is a long way for a tiny child all alone to be riding alongside busy streets. Someone would have reported seeing her, imo.

Besides, I don't think she could have ridden that far in the heat. When my daughter was 3 I used to take her on her bike to go pick up her brother after school. We would ride a half a mile there and 1/2 mile back. She was exhausted before we would get home and she would complain about being hot and tired all the way back home. I cannot believe she would have ridden 2 miles on her own on a busy street without getting off and crying for help. imoo

 

[shefner]

That is a really good point. After seeing some video of the field, I can say for sure that it's cotton and not beans. Cotton and rice fields require lots of water.

I didn't witness the video but soybeans do often require irrigation. You can look it up on google and find several good references....

I lived for a number of years near fields that were alternately planted with cotton and soybeans.

 

[SuziQ]

I'm not feeling that the parents are involved. But if they are, dad's supposed trip to the auction could have actually been a trip to dispose of Breeann. God I hate typing that.

Has any info come out about cell phone tracking or whether the father was verified as being at the auction?

 

[Lovejac]

This is weird news about the training wheels!

I can't seem to fit this into an abduction scenario.

Perp abducts a child and her bike, has a wrench handy, takes the training wheels off and takes the bike and Breeann???

No way! I want to hear from someone BESIDES Mom, Dad and siblings who saw Breeann and when.

 

[SuziQ]

IMO, a perp would have tossed the entire bike, not just the training wheels.

 

[~n/t~]

I don't mean to knock girls for their athletic limitations. But the location of the wheels could be a huge clue. If one was by the road, anyone could have tossed it from a vehicle. But the other was 30 feet from the road. That means that someone either could really throw a long way or took a huge chance by leaving a vehicle and walking into a field where, apparently, searchers had already been.

If they determine that the wheels were planted, one obvious question is whether a parent could have planted them. Another key question is where the bike wheels were hidden. Now think about this...what if LE planted them? Can you imagine that? Some guy is saying that they definitely belong to his daughter when they definitely do not.

Food for thought...

The dad described why he thought the wheels were from his daughter's bike. How would LE know what adjustments the dad made to one of the wheels?

 

[cluciano63]

Doesn't it take a wrench to even get the wheels off? I thought the father said something about tightening the bolts. It just does not make sense for a kidnapper to do it, for any reason. He'd either leave the bike or take it.

Still, I can't think of any reason dad would say they are her wheels, if they aren't, unless he just thinks they are. But then, what are the chances other training wheels are in a nearby field? This is just too weird...

I hope LE has more going on behind the scenes...

 

[gliving]

I do not believe she could have gone for two miles on that bike without people reporting it afterwards. That is a long way for a tiny child all alone to be riding alongside busy streets. Someone would have reported seeing her, imo.

Besides, I don't think she could have ridden that far in the heat. When my daughter was 3 I used to take her on her bike to go pick up her brother after school. We would ride a half a mile there and back. She was exhausted before we would get home and she would complain about being hot and tired all the way back home. I cannot believe she would have ridden 2 miles on her own on a busy street without getting off and crying for help. imoo

You make a valid point. She would have been hot and tired. Still, from her house, it's just one block south and she's out of town with just a handful of houses to see her along the way. Here's the map I reference:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...ll=36.125046,-90.165455&spn=0.003211,0.006947

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Just a heads up, everyone.

No one has been named a suspect or POI. So we still have to be very careful about posting about the family. THEY ARE VICTIMS of this horrible event until LE says otherwise. Yes, they reportedly failed polygraphs. And YES, you can discuss that. Just as you can discuss them in relation to the other facts of the case. But don't start with wild theories on things that have not been mentioned in the media or by LE, or outright accuse them of involvement.

For more on WS victim friendly policy, see our Rules: Rules Etiquette & Information - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community And, as always, if you have any questions, PM a moderator.


ETA - This is just a preemptive reminder. You are fine so far.

 

[vjlaw]

Sometimes parents, kids and bikes have conflicts. Kids leave bikes in driveway, training wheels not working right, child crying about their bike. Maybe someone got mad and removed the training wheels. Maybe something unintentional happened to Breeann in the process. Don't know why the wheels would be found though. Doesn't make sense.

 

[~n/t~]

You just hit on a scenario I had never considered. Does someone have a timeline up yet? I find it suspicious that mom says he left closer to 11 rather than closer to 10. Her version conveniently gives her less time to do something.

Her shifty eyes in that NBC interview are a problem for me. She never looked at the camera, and at one point she started to break down. But it wasn't a normal sort of breakdown. I sensed that she was more ashamed than sad.

The topic was when Breeann went missing. Mom estimated it was closer to 11 after dad said 10. Here is the direct quote:

As for the time the child went missing, Rodriguez said his daughter didn't leave the house until after 10 a.m.

"I didn't leave the house until about 10 [a.m.], to go to that auction," Rodriguez said. "Breeann was still asleep when I left. It had to be after 10 at least. [Ramos] is saying it was closer to 11. She had to get up, brush her teeth, get dressed, and eat cereal before she went outside. It was about 11 o'clock when she went outside and about 11:30 when she went missing. We spend about 30 minutes or 45 minutes looking for her before we called 911.

 

[abugs]

What 3 YO sleeps till 10:30/11 am unless they were up super late the night before or was sick? Has anything been said about what was going on at the house the night before? The day before?

I simply can not imagine a perp taking the child with the bike and then removing and dumping training wheels. Makes zero sense to me, zero.

I am not caught up yet from yesterday. I'll go back and read the previous thread from where I left off.

I have to agree with this. I simply cannot imagine a child that age sleeping so late unless something else was going on.

 

[~n/t~]

Doesn't it take a wrench to even get the wheels off? I thought the father said something about tightening the bolts. It just does not make sense for a kidnapper to do it, for any reason. He'd either leave the bike or take it.

Still, I can't think of any reason dad would say they are her wheels, if they aren't, unless he just thinks they are. But then, what are the chances other training wheels are in a nearby field? This is just too weird...

I hope LE has more going on behind the scenes...

If he's a worker (construction ?), he may have had a tool box in his van. I don't know what the point of removing the wheels would be though and tossing them.

 

[cluciano63]

So Dad was only gone about an hour or an hour and half at most? And baby goes from sleeping to gone?

 

[Lovejac]

What 3 YO sleeps till 10:30/11 am unless they were up super late the night before or was sick? Has anything been said about what was going on at the house the night before? The day before?

I simply can not imagine a perp taking the child with the bike and then removing and dumping training wheels. Makes zero sense to me, zero.

I am not caught up yet from yesterday. I'll go back and read the previous thread from where I left off.

LOL! I have 3 kiddos and NOT a one of them ever slept that late.

 

[katydid23]

If he's a worker (construction ?), he may have had a tool box in his van. I don't know what the point of removing the wheels would be though and tossing them.

It really is odd, isn't it. The only reasons I can think of are for trying to deceive LE in some way. Someone wanted LE to focus upon that field for some reason.

All it tells me is that little Breeann is not in that field and maybe was never anywhere near there. imoo