Identified! MO - Dixon, Wht/NtvFem UP10222, >35, off Hwy MM, upper denture, May'81 - Karen Knippers

[taramarie]

Did you start a thread for Ms. Mullins Dungan?

CA - Daisy Mullins Dungan - aged early 40’s - Fresno - missing in late 70’s

 

[Bit of hope]

DBM wrong thread

 

[CarrieMe]

I'm wondering if she is Anna Therese Ciaccio.

Anna Therese Ciaccio – The Charley Project

All the identifying descriptors match, she has similar admixture and the bra marking would fit with being in a mental hospital. Also, Papillion to Dixon is almost a straight line.

 

[Feme98]

I'm wondering if she is Anna Therese Ciaccio.

Anna Therese Ciaccio – The Charley Project

All the identifying descriptors match, she has similar admixture and the bra marking would fit with being in a mental hospital. Also, Papillion to Dixon is almost a straight line.

I see resemblance, our JD had black hair? Or was it a dark brown?

 

[CarrieMe]

I see resemblance, our JD had black hair? Or was it a dark brown?

Hair color was easy to change but Anna's hair looked very dark in her younger years.

 

[Feme98]

I'm wondering if she is Anna Therese Ciaccio.

Anna Therese Ciaccio – The Charley Project

All the identifying descriptors match, she has similar admixture and the bra marking would fit with being in a mental hospital. Also, Papillion to Dixon is almost a straight line.

I forwarded this to PCSD! Hopefully we get an answer soon!

 

[windstorm]

Does anyone know Pulaski Jane Doe’s Gedmatch number?

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Does anyone know Pulaski Jane Doe’s Gedmatch number?

The DNA Doe Project does not release kit numbers due to the need for confidentiality.

 

[Laughing]

I'm wondering if she is Anna Therese Ciaccio.

Anna Therese Ciaccio – The Charley Project

All the identifying descriptors match, she has similar admixture and the bra marking would fit with being in a mental hospital. Also, Papillion to Dixon is almost a straight line.

Almost a straight line on the map -- but really not if you're driving. Over 6 hours per Google Maps.

Agree that Ms. Ciaccio is a possible match here.

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[carbuff]

Here's Papillon to Dixon for those who aren't familiar with that part of the US Google Maps

Six hours isn't prohibitive, especially if she met someone at the corner where her mother saw her and left on her own before running into trouble.

Definitely a possibility.

 

[windstorm]

PULASKI COUNTY JANE DOE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED!

Press release from Pulaski County Sheriff's Office this morning:

Pulaski County Jane Doe identified after 40 years, to the day.
Pulaski County Missouri - The Pulaski County Sheriff’s Office and the DNA Doe Project announce the identity of a woman whose body was discovered on 25 May 1981 at a low water crossing near Dixon, MO. the victim of an apparent homicide.
After authorities were unable to identify the woman or any details involving her death she was buried in the Waynesville Cemetery in a grave marked “Jane Doe.”
In 2012, Lt. Dottie Taylor, Missouri Highway Patrol, Troop I, entered Jane Doe’s profile in the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System. Detective DJ Renno of the Pulaski County Sheriff’s Office became interested in the case and requested approval to relook at the case. Approval was given by Sheriff JB King in 2012 to reopen the case. Sheriff Ronald Long and current Sheriff Jimmy Bench continued the investigation throughout the years searching for answers.
In 2015 Detective Renno, and Pulaski County Coroner Mikel Hartness with the concurrence of Sheriff Ron Long obtained a court order for the exhumation of Jane Doe’s remains to obtain DNA for use in identification.
The exhumation was conducted on 25 May 2015 with the help and assistance of numerous individuals and organizations including members of the Pulaski County Sheriff’s Office, Coroner Mikel Hartness, Prosecuting Attorney Kevin Hillman, members of Waynesville City Hall, Waynesville Fire Department, Dan Cordry excavation service, Mr. Mark Beary (Anthropologist), members of the Waynesville Memorial Chapel, and police departments within the county.
In June 2015 the remains were transported to the University of North Texas, Center for Human Identification, Fort Worth TX. for DNA and Forensic Anthropology testing.
In January 2016 An Anthropology report was received on the remains.
In March 2016 a report was received that the extraction and development of DNA was successful.
In May 2016 Jane Doe’s remains were sent to the University of South Florida for forensic Imaging and Isotope analysis.
In January 2017 a report identifying the results from Isotope testing was received.
In April 2019 Jane Doe’s remains were submitted to the DNA Doe Project, in Sebastopol CA. The DNA Doe Project is a volunteer organization using Genetic Genealogy to identify relatives through DNA research.
December 2019 The DNA Doe Project provided a possible name of Jane Doe and the Name of a possible relative (candidate).
In January 2020 - Pulaski County Sheriff’s Office located a candidate (possible relative) in Alexandria VA. The candidate informed Detective Renno that he did have a sister that the family had lost contact with in the early 1980’s. The candidate (possible relative) agreed to provide a DNA sample for comparison / confirmation. The Pulaski County Sheriff’s Office in coordination with the regional managers of the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NaMUS) and the Alexandria VA, Detective unit to obtain a DNA sample. The DNA sample was obtained and submitted to NaMUS at the University of North Texas Center for Human Identification for the development and comparison of DNA.
In May 2021 - The genetic data obtained from Pulaski County Jane Doe and the candidate were entered into the Unidentified Human remains and relatives of Missing Persons indices of the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) and association between these samples were noted to be 19.4 million times more likely to be the biological sibling (Pulaski County (Dixon) Jane Doe) and of the candidate (possible relative) as opposed to originate from an unrelated individual.
Bottom Line: We now know the name of Pulaski County (Dixon) Jane Doe is
Karen Kay Knippers.
*********** Press Conference Today *************
May 25th at 1600 with the lead Pulaski County Detective Douglas Renno at Pulaski County Justice Center 403 School Street Waynesville, MO. ************

 

[faithx]

Pulaski County (Mo.) detectives identify woman considered “Jane Doe” since death in 1981

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Karen Kaye Knippers
Photo courtesy of the family

On May 25, 2021, almost forty years after the remains of a woman were recovered from a low water crossing off Hwy MM, north of Dixon, Missouri, the Pulaski County Sheriff’s Office (PCSO) and the DNA Doe Project (DDP) announced the confirmation of the woman’s identity as Karen Kaye Knippers. Based on forensic evidence her death is considered a homicide.

Pulaski Co Jane Doe - DNA Doe Project Cases

 

[Melt71]

RIP Karen *advertiser censored*

 

[MarziPanda]

The recon was pretty accurate, only the nose was off. She was around 33 when she died. RIP Karen.

 

[ntt1]

Searching Ancestry shows a person with that same full name as having been married in Florida in 1973 and possibly having had a child in Texas in the 1980s. Not certain that it's the same person however.

I wonder where she was originally from?

EDIT: Based on a family tree, it seems that she might have been from Florida originally.

 

[Susikatze]

Ive seen that tree, too. It looks like she had one brother who passed 10 years before her and she also lost her mom already in the 1960s. No info about other siblings.
Her dad lived to an old age but he may have given up searching. What a sad family story.
She had many aunts and uncles, thou, so I guess they IDd her via their descendants. Unless the record referring to a child is hers.

 

[ntt1]

Ive seen that tree, too. It looks like she had one brother who passed 10 years before her and she also lost her mom already in the 1960s. No info about other siblings.
Her dad lived to an old age but he may have given up searching. What a sad family story.
She had many aunts and uncles, thou, so I guess they IDd her via their descendants.

I don't think the death date for the brother in the tree is correct as I believe he is the one still living in Virginia that the DNA was compared to (per public records).

 

[Tbone144]

. In December 2019, The DNA Doe Project provided a possible name of Jane Doe and the name of a possible relative. Investigators contacted Knippers’ family in Virginia. Knippers’ brother mentioned he had lost contact with his sister in the early 1980s. After submitting a sample, the two became a match.

Hopefully the quoted article comes through.

ETA: it didn’t. Link below
Pulaski County (Mo.) detectives identify woman considered “Jane Doe” since death in 1981

 

[Susikatze]

And another forensic anthropology fail, according to her Gedmatch, she was not Native American but almost exclusively Northern European. She had a tiny bit of "Siberian" admix, though, which may be noise or some distant First Nations (from the North) ancestor. But she did not have the "classical" Native descent genetic profile (which would show as "Amerindian", it is not very precise, either).
Shows again the need for DNA analysis as a standard procedure in all the new (and old) UID cases.