MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #7

[Jodibug]

Thanks, couldn't remember... not that it matters but is Concord Baptist across from Hyvee??

caddy-corner from HyVee, yes. Across from the Mall road and next to Walgreens and Jimmy Johns.

 

[tgrlaw]

I agree with the poster (sorry can't recall who) that said she may have a split personality.

Until things break on the news and legal front, the state of mind/profile if you will, of AB is what i am chosing to focus on. I don't believe AB has multiple personalities, i.e. Sybil, (if that really even exists) but she does likley have a personality disorder that makes her act differently in different settings. Putting on a front for one's family, i.e. going to church, devoutly, and then throwing down to some disturing tunes with your pals. To one group you are just a moody, misundestood girl. To the other you are the biggest bad *advertiser censored* of them all. The point is she is highly manipulative by all accounts. For those who were able to see the aunt's blog, the dress incident, and reaction of gm are indicative of this. It disturbs me to think this way about a 15 yo girl, but she may be a master of disuguises.

Remember Ted Bundy was a handsome law student. J.W. Gacey a kids party clown. Disturbed folks learn very well to get what they want with false fronts.

 

[crimecurious]

My brain hurts!!!

 

[Flashforward]

I said that I never saw the driveway blocked, and that I was there the day of the "big" search (Thursday), which is also the day that ILC said his friend could not get out to go to an interview.

I rec'd an interesting PM from ILC that day, which I wish I had kept but unfortunately I deleted it cleaning out my box. Knowing that I could not disclose it's contents I didn't think to keep it..... but I really wish that all of you could see it now.

Tricia is welcome to post it if she has access to get it back, verifying (of course) that it was sent to me from ILC.

I hope she has it so we can see!--- Curiosity is killing me ... so since you are a local was he trying to get information on you?

 

[Capri]

Well, ILC/Ryan/whatever his name is ...his credibility is shot now. So, if like some think, he is part of the AB family, I hope he doesn't get called to testify, as he's an admitted poser/liar, at this point.

 

[Jodibug]

I hope she has it so we can see!--- Curiosity is killing me ... so since you are a local was he trying to get information on you?

I really hope that she can recover it and will read it before making any decision on ILC's validity. Whatever information she rec'd in her last conversation with him should be weighed against the PM he sent me.

There is one huge, obvious, glaring inconsistency that anyone will be able to find.

eta... and it wouldnt' have done him any good to try and get information from me. I have freely given all of the information that I have. I did not know either family personally. I am just someone who is local, cares deeply and wanted to help.

 

[crimecurious]

When he first came online I PMd him a question that he should have known the answer to. He didn't answer, all I thought was JERK!

 

[lorann]

I said that I never saw the driveway blocked, and that I was there the day of the "big" search (Thursday), which is also the day that ILC said his friend could not get out to go to an interview.

I rec'd an interesting PM from ILC that day, which I wish I had kept but unfortunately I deleted it cleaning out my box. Knowing that I could not disclose it's contents I didn't think to keep it..... but I really wish that all of you could see it now.

Tricia is welcome to post it if she has access to get it back, verifying (of course) that it was sent to me from ILC.

I'm not sure she has access to the PM - but may be able to have it un-deleted to you. Make any sense? If you PM the info to her, I am sure she will answer you.

 

[Capri]

I said that I never saw the driveway blocked, and that I was there the day of the "big" search (Thursday), which is also the day that ILC said his friend could not get out to go to an interview.

I rec'd an interesting PM from ILC that day, which I wish I had kept but unfortunately I deleted it cleaning out my box. Knowing that I could not disclose it's contents I didn't think to keep it..... but I really wish that all of you could see it now.

Tricia is welcome to post it if she has access to get it back, verifying (of course) that it was sent to me from ILC.

but you could paraphrase it for us, couldn't you? Or is that a bad idea?

 

[Jodibug]

I'm not sure she has access to the PM - but may be able to have it un-deleted to you. Make any sense? If you PM the info to her, I am sure she will answer you.

I have sent her a PM asking her to try and recover it and read it. I freely give permission for any other mod or anyone who has access to do it also.

 

[crimecurious]

Hmm, what if he was LE and they are going to tell tricia to "drop it"

 

[gliving]

Methinks he's very upset with AB. Unfortunately it's for the wrong reasons. It's all about how it affected him. Never a word of sympathy for Elizabeth's family. Quite the opposite in fact, he accuses EO's mom of being high on meth when her child went missing. How mean is that?

 

[Jodibug]

but you could paraphrase it for us, couldn't you? Or is that a bad idea?

I'd have to brush up on the TOS. Is it ok to disclose the contents of a PM here? (On most boards I belong to it is a bannable offense).

If a mod tells me that it is ok, I can paraphrase it. But I would much rather have a mod or Tricia find and verify the actual PM.

 

[Flashforward]

When he first came online I PMd him a question that he should have known the answer to. He didn't answer, all I thought was JERK!

Not trying to defend ILC in the slightest but I just found my private message thing like 10 minutes ago and I had 2 messages in there that I hadn't responded to.

 

[Jodibug]

Hmm, what if he was LE and they are going to tell tricia to "drop it"

I can't imagine LE posting here. Didn't Yuri Melich post some non case related stuff on a Casey board and get disciplined for it?

Anything is possible.... but I wouldn't guess LE.

 

[Flashforward]

Right. And someone (ILC) missed a job interview because of the pesky police cars in the driveway when Jodibug insisted the drive was never blocked.

Methinks he's very upset with AB. Unfortunately it's for the wrong reasons. It's all about how it affected him. Never a word of sympathy for Elizabeth's family. Quite the opposite in fact, he accuses EO's mom of being high on meth when her child went missing. How mean is that?

I especially like the part where ILC says a bank won't foreclose until you are a year behind on payments. I think I'll try that. Any bets how long it takes my bank to say buh-bye?

Maybe ILC was the family member of AB that was feuding with EO's family--- just a thought.

 

[crimecurious]

Could be, but he knew enough to send Jodibug one himself...

 

[crimecurious]

I can't imagine LE posting here. Didn't Yuri Melich post some non case related stuff on a Casey board and get disciplined for it?

Anything is possible.... but I wouldn't guess LE.

Remember which LE we're dealing with here. LOL

 

[Capri]

I'd have to brush up on the TOS. Is it ok to disclose the contents of a PM here? (On most boards I belong to it is a bannable offense).

If a mod tells me that it is ok, I can paraphrase it. But I would much rather have a mod or Tricia find and verify the actual PM.

I don't really know. Curiosity's getting the best of me, but I'd wait for a mods/Tricia's approval. The thing is, he's a liar, by his own admission, so anything he said in a pm could be a lie too.

 

[Jodibug]

ILC may have some knowledge of the family. I do not know either way. I do not know either family and have never professed to, therefore I would now know one way or another about 90% of the stuff he posted.

But I know for fact that a couple of things were inaccurate.

Mostly he just bothered me because I thought it was rude and inappropriate to accuse Patty of being on meth. I feel like he implied that she was "high out of her mind" at 6:15, which IMO is ridiculous since she started the search just 45 mins later.

I also found the comments about video taping an encounter with Patty to be quite disturbing. Who would do that??? I can't imagine having a camera on me while I am desperately trying to find my missing daughter. Not just minutes or hours after she has vanished. I find that horribly rude and offensive. No, he didn't say that he himself did it, but that it was a friend of his... but still. Horrible thing to do.