MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #9

[lawlady84]

Sorry, that's a little too much excitement for a murder hearing. I was up all night doing tax work, right now the bagel and coffee I'm about to get seems like an exciting event.

 

[hellinor]

I can't believe today is finally here! Just to let you all know, my username isn't anything too crazy, it's my first initial and lastname I know it looks like something religious, but no.... Anyways I really hope Jodibug got in to let us all know what happened! And as to the banana eater site, yes I am still awaiting their apporval, and for this site my approval email just got lost in spam. MominJC, did you ever hear from Tricia if you could post your local info??

 

[crimecurious]

Sorry, that's a little too much excitement for a murder hearing. I was up all night doing tax work, right now the bagel and coffee I'm about to get seems like an exciting event.

I know, I hear ya. I wanted to go really bad. Alright I'll admit it. I drove around the block twice to see what was going on. When I didn't see many people, I thought about calling in sick to work.:blushing:

 

[jill]

has anyone found a live feed to outside the courtroom? tia.

 

[hellinor]

Crimecurious I woulda done the same if I was in the area!

 

[lawlady84]

If the hearing actually started at 8, everyone who will be there would be inside and seated by 8. In a case like this usually the doors will be closed and no one leaves until its over- at the least, if you leave there's no reentry.

 

[jill]

here is the KRCG twitter:

http://twitter.com/krcg

 

[lawlady84]

Crimecurious I woulda done the same if I was in the area!

YES, me too! I keep thinking how lucky I am that none of the cases I follow are in New York. I KNOW I wouldn't be able to help myself from going to the Court and wandering into the "wrong" courtrooms "by accident" to see some of the trials. I'd never get any real work done!

O/T They are planning on trying the 9/11 terrorists in the Court where most of our cases are tried. Now THAT is going to be a fun security line to get through every day. My crazy mom keeps trying to think of ways to get me a seeing-eye dog that's secretly a bomb-sniffing dog, LOL. I love moms :blowkiss:

 

[Angel Who Cares]

Elizabeth Olten recap, interactive timeline
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 7:26 p.m.
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Wednesday Oct. 21
The sun was starting to go down when Elizabeth was supposed to leave her friend's house. It was a short, quarter-mile walk home. When she never made it her parents called police.

A command post was set up as investigators searched for Elizabeth late into the night.


*NOTE: Included In Article: Check out the interactive timeline.

Article:
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=378593
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Olten murder case trial preview
Tuesday, November 17, 2009 at 9:08 p.m.
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MURDER SUSPECT INFORMATION
The juvenile is 15 years old and lives near where Elizabeth olten lived. Police say the teen was also an acquaintance of Elizabeth.

KRCG News has confirmed though that the murder suspect lives at the house where Elizabeth was playing the night she went missing.

RUMORS & QUESTIONS
One popular blogoshpere theory is that Jefferson City High School teacher Bill Currie committed suicide just days after the 15 year old's arrest because he knew of her plans to commit murder.
However, the Cole County Sheriff's Department and Jefferson City Police both say Currie did not teach the suspect and that his suicide in not connected.

Another persistent theory is that the female suspect dug a grave in the woods in advance of the murder.

Article:
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=378610
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Olten Suspect In Court
Published: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 6:55 AM
Last Updated: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 7:50 AM
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Cole County Judge John Beetem decided to open the hearing to the public to determine if the suspect in Olten's death can stand trial as an adult. By opening the November hearing, the judge will permit the general public to attend. If the suspect is tried as an adult, the suspect's name and gender will be public information. Authorities have asked media not to release this information about the suspect.

Article:
http://www.komu.com/satellite/Satel...4c70b769/075c43d4-80ce-0971-00c4-eb2da0f3fb2a
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Hearing scheduled today for teen Missouri murder suspect
November 18, 2009
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A hearing has been scheduled for Wednesday to determine how to handle the suspect.

The 15-year-old is accused of first-degree murder but has not been identified because she has been held in Missouri&#8217;s juvenile justice system.

Ten factors are used to decide how to treat juveniles accused of crimes. They include the seriousness of the allegations and whether violence was involved.

Article:
http://www.news-leader.com/article/...eduled-today-for-teen-Missouri-murder-suspect
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Teen To Appear In Court For Olten Killing
POSTED: 6:36 am CST November 18, 2009
UPDATED: 7:12 am CST November 18, 2009
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Since being arrested, the teen has been housed at the Prenger Family Center.

Today, prosecutors and lawyers representing the teen will be in court.

KCTV5 will be inside of the courtroom and will have full reports on the proceedings.

Article:
http://www.kctv5.com/news/21649734/detail.html
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Hearing scheduled for teen Mo. murder suspect
Wednesday, Nov. 18, 2009
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Under Missouri law, children as young as 12 can be charged as adults with first-degree murder. Ten factors are considered in deciding how to treat juveniles accused of crimes. All must be evaluated, but Beetem does not need to weigh them equally.

Among the factors: the seriousness of the crime; whether viciousness, force or violence was involved; whether people or property were affected; the suspect's criminal record and background; and the individual's age, sophistication and maturity.

Authorities have released few additional details, including how Elizabeth died. Cole County Sheriff Greg White said the 15-year-old was contacted after unspecified written evidence was obtained. Law officers have not said how it is believed Elizabeth encountered the teen or where it is believed that she was killed.

Article:
http://www.bnd.com/336/story/1014195.html
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Should homicide suspect, age 15, be tried as adult?
Wednesday, November 18, 2009
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How do they decide if a youth should be treated as an adult? Slate's Explainer feature had a piece on this a few years ago:

The factors judges consider also vary by state, but based on the Supreme Court's direction in Kent v. United States, they generally include the following: the nature and circumstances of the crime; whether the offense was committed in an aggressive, violent, or premeditated manner; the merit of the charges; the sophistication, maturity, and prior history of the minor; the need to protect the public; and the likelihood that the child can be treated and rehabilitated.


Slate's Explainer feature had a piece on this a few years ago:
http://www.slate.com/id/2172226/

Kent v. United States
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0383_0541_ZS.html

Article:
http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_s...omicide-suspect-age-15-be-tried-as-adult.html

:angel:

 

[lbminnesota]

I stayed up all night working so I could be here for the hearing. My family thinks I'm a goofball.

 

[I AM THE 14 CAR]

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=378736

Only 36 seats are available to the public.

Anyone wanting those seats must be at the Monroe Street entrance to the Cole County Court House at 7:45 a.m.

<more at link>

 

[jill]

more comprehensive:

http://twitter.com/search?q=elizabeth olten

 

[hellinor]

:banghead: I'm such a goof, I am in EST and didn't realize MO wasn't..... Been refreshing everything every 5 seconds only to realize it's just about to start....

 

[lawlady84]

:banghead: I'm such a goof, I am in EST and didn't realize MO wasn't..... Been refreshing everything every 5 seconds only to realize it's just about to start....

AHH, its 8:00 central?? :banghead: I just assume everything happens in EST time.

 

[LaWanda]

I am in EST and I'm sitting at work with my privacy screen on my laptop so no one can see that I'm glued to this thread. LOL I am so impatient!

 

[Turtles]

:banghead: I'm such a goof, I am in EST and didn't realize MO wasn't..... Been refreshing everything every 5 seconds only to realize it's just about to start....

ROFL, don't feel bad. Didn't realize until your post.

 

[lbminnesota]

AHH, its 8:00 central?? :banghead: I just assume everything happens in EST time.

You east coast folks always think that

 

[pghbrandi]

LOL! Thanks hellinor! I didn't know either!

 

[hellinor]

OK I have hit refresh SOOO many times on EO twitter that service was temporarily unavailable.... guess I'm not the only one and I'm glad to know I wasnt the only one thinking on EST!

 

[TakeNote]

is there a live link?