If they win (which they won't), I hope they receive just compensation to the tune of a coupon for a free Big Mac and a Happy Meal for their inconvenience. But millions of $$$? Huh uh. Who goes to McDonalds in the middle of a riot? Use those millions (If they even exist) to build better schools and hire good teachers.
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If they win (which they won't), I hope they receive just compensation to the tune of a coupon for a free Big Mac and a Happy Meal for their inconvenience. But millions of $$$? Huh uh. Who goes to McDonalds in the middle of a riot? Use those millions (If they even exist) to build better schools and hire good teachers.
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No, no, no! If you followed the posts at all, you'd know I was responding to Pops & gngr. We were discussing the actions of the protestors in Ferguson. Somehow I think you already knew that.
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LEMON: OK. You have been interviewed by the FBI. He has been interviewed by the FBI. Tonight as we were calling your office, you were on the phone with the FBI?*
BLUMENTHAL: Yes. The FBI was in our office interviewing my client.*
LEMON: And what did they talk about?*
BLUMENTHAL: They discussed the tape with him and retrieved the information. And they're doing a thorough investigation. They thought this would be an important piece of the investigation.*
LEMON: And on the tape, what we have been told that at least six shots were fired at Michael Brown. In the tape that you have, that is alleged to be of the shooting. Again, alleged, we can't independently invite CNN. We didn't shoot it. So, there are more than six shots.*
BLUMENTHAL: I personally heard at least 11.*
LEMON: At least 11 shots. Stand by, Lopa. I want to read this to our viewers. This is what is going on now. This is breaking news. This is purported to be audio of the gunshots fired when Michael Brown was shot between Officer Darren Wilson and Michael Brown. The FBI has question ad man who says he recorded audio gunshots at the time when Michael Brown was shot by Ferguson police. That was on August 9th. That is according to his attorney who is here. She is standing here.
BLUMENTHAL: I became aware of this tape through a mutual friend late last week. I had to get his consent before I could reach out to the FBI. But hearing the tape I thought it should be brought forward. We contacted the FBI and they were prompt to respond to our inquiries. And they met with him tonight.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1408/25/cnnt.02.html
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BLUMENTHAL: Yes. The FBI was in our office interviewing my client.*
LEMON: And what did they talk about?*
BLUMENTHAL: They discussed the tape with him and retrieved the information. And they're doing a thorough investigation. They thought this would be an important piece of the investigation.*
LEMON: And on the tape, what we have been told that at least six shots were fired at Michael Brown. In the tape that you have, that is alleged to be of the shooting. Again, alleged, we can't independently invite CNN. We didn't shoot it. So, there are more than six shots.*
BLUMENTHAL: I personally heard at least 11.*
LEMON: At least 11 shots. Stand by, Lopa. I want to read this to our viewers. This is what is going on now. This is breaking news. This is purported to be audio of the gunshots fired when Michael Brown was shot between Officer Darren Wilson and Michael Brown. The FBI has question ad man who says he recorded audio gunshots at the time when Michael Brown was shot by Ferguson police. That was on August 9th. That is according to his attorney who is here. She is standing here.
BLUMENTHAL: I became aware of this tape through a mutual friend late last week. I had to get his consent before I could reach out to the FBI. But hearing the tape I thought it should be brought forward. We contacted the FBI and they were prompt to respond to our inquiries. And they met with him tonight.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1408/25/cnnt.02.html
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She was attempting to unite with her minor child- and the cops were preventing that.
There was nothing happening in that Mc Donalds, so not sure why you think things happening elsewhere mattered? Honestly, these were people avoiding the fray. If they were going to do something like this, they needed to enact a city wide curfew of something, instead of rousting peaceful people out suddenly, IMHO.
Their lawsuits will cost themselves some serious money! Many businesses will never reopen, people will lose their jobs, many people will just move away to get away from it all. The tax base will go down, less cops, less to schools, etc...
The money comes out of our pockets, not some mysterious tree.
Drawing from memory, I heard the attorney for the owner of the audio snippet explained last night on one of the shows that the 'app' only actually records in 12 second snippets.
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You are likely right about CNN.
After CA's cough cough trial----- I made a decision to stop watching ALL news.I will however read or watch a small portion here at WS related to a case but that is it.
News reports are no longer honest, researched stories.
Not only that, but the same law firm filing the petition has something to do with the chaos that was happening in Ferguson. Isn't there some code of ethics to prevent an attorney making things happen so he can file a lawsuit? Seems like they could equally file one against him and his group.
Controversy surrounds New Black Panther protester
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/loca...urrounds-new-black-panter-protester/14354297/
Pastors: Man claiming to be peacekeeper actually escalating things in Ferguson
http://www.kmov.com/special-coverag...per-actually-escalating-things-271915931.html
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Joey Jackson on CNN.
Authenticated by Glide only so far.
The FBI will authenicate as well before it can be allowed in court.
He was recording a message to someone.
It is not "chat".
Don Lemon admitted they called LB the atty and asked to interview her on TV.
So what is Glide, exactly?: http://youtu.be/r6yCbF2Jc_8
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Authenticated by Glide only so far.
The FBI will authenicate as well before it can be allowed in court.
He was recording a message to someone.
It is not "chat".
Don Lemon admitted they called LB the atty and asked to interview her on TV.
So what is Glide, exactly?: http://youtu.be/r6yCbF2Jc_8
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No, no, no! If you followed the posts at all, you'd know I was responding to Pops & gngr. We were discussing the actions of the protestors in Ferguson. Somehow I think you already knew that.
The protesters in Ferguson are ALSO concerned about deprivation of civil rights.
I assumed everyone was aware of that.
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I still can't help but wonder what the ENTIRE audio consists of! Did Mr. "Yer so purty, yer so fine" just start recording at that particular moment....or did he actually capture the first shot that allegedly took place inside the police SUV? Inquiring minds would like to know! Did the woman attorney of Mr. Yer so Purty, yer so fine just give the media that small soundbite? Where is the rest of the tape!? Let's hear it!
ETA - Oh never mind....I'm reading in later posts that the Glide app only records 12 seconds!
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[h=1]FBI warns of New Black Panther Party leader inciting violence in Ferguson[/h]
http://wtvr.com/2014/08/13/fbi-warn...r-party-leader-inciting-violence-in-ferguson/
2/3 of the budget comes from fines given to their constituents. I need to find the article, but there's a ridiculously high rate of fines levied for non-violent offenses in that community. There's been a lot about that in the news. I believe that is part of what the DOJ is looking into.
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The citizens of Ferguson and business owners are concerned about their town and really don't like the outsiders and activists tearing up their town and committing violent acts of looting, throwing Molotov cocktails, committing arson, etc.
When the activists leave, what are the citizens going to be left with?
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I had cnn on a couple of days ago, and the panel was discussing this.
Lemon (quite emphatically) stopped everyone to clarify the timeline of events.
He said the guy did not want to come forward with it because he wanted to stay anonymous. So he told his friend /roommate (he wasn't sure) who is this lawyer.
She gave it to one of Lemon's assistants, and for "some mixed up reason" (again, lemon didn't know), the assistant neglected to give it to Lemon.
Once he did, apparently, Lemon ran with it. Maybe that's when he called her.
I don't know if that show is online, but I would like to rewatch, because I got the impression that she took it to Lemon's guy before the FBI. It annoyed me. But I could have missed something, or they had it wrong at the time.
Just adding this to the table. Personally, I don't think the tape helps us much here. Without the technology and statements for comparison, it could mean anything or nothing.
All the law suits.
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I'd like to address the issue of police and nametags, versus displaying a badge number, or other more anonymous identifier, or alias, on their uniform.
I can speak to health care workers, as that's my profession. Pretty much across the board health care workers now display a nametag with a first name only, or first name and a last initial. Some of my colleagues are using on the job alias nick names. For example, they use something like Suzy T. on their nametag, when their name is Elizabeth Suzanne Trent. Why the secrecy? Well, increasingly health care providers are being stalked outside of work, and targeted by patients, and family members and friends of patients. There have been emergency room personnel being targeted by gang members for trying to save the life of a rival gang member who was shot, stabbed, or otherwise gravely injured. Safety for health care workers to do their jobs free of the fear of being stalked and targeted outside of work is a serious and evolving problem.
I don't blame cops for not displaying their full name when engaged in policing on the job, but I do think they should be able to conceal their identities legally. (Especially when involved with riot control!)I think it should be their right to use an on-the-job alias, or display a badge number that perhaps rotates to a different number every so often, to protect themselves AND their families, friends, and neighbors from becoming targets for revenge and further stalking and violence. We as a society OWE them this tiny buffer level of safety, IMO, so that they can do their jobs and go home alive. This isn't Mayberry anymore. It's really, really, really dangerous to be a cop in crime ridden areas.
Even when I was in the military, there is a policy of removing shiny officer rank and name tags in combat zones, to protect command and control from becoming targets. Riots are no less a combat environment than any war zone. Enlisted don't have to salute officers in war zones, to prevent officers from being identified. Riots are civilian terrorism, and should be treated as such. And I'm not talking about peaceful protests, I'm talking about full blown riot mob violence, burning, looting, lobbing improvised explosives at police, like we saw in Ferguson.
I can speak to health care workers, as that's my profession. Pretty much across the board health care workers now display a nametag with a first name only, or first name and a last initial. Some of my colleagues are using on the job alias nick names. For example, they use something like Suzy T. on their nametag, when their name is Elizabeth Suzanne Trent. Why the secrecy? Well, increasingly health care providers are being stalked outside of work, and targeted by patients, and family members and friends of patients. There have been emergency room personnel being targeted by gang members for trying to save the life of a rival gang member who was shot, stabbed, or otherwise gravely injured. Safety for health care workers to do their jobs free of the fear of being stalked and targeted outside of work is a serious and evolving problem.
I don't blame cops for not displaying their full name when engaged in policing on the job, but I do think they should be able to conceal their identities legally. (Especially when involved with riot control!)I think it should be their right to use an on-the-job alias, or display a badge number that perhaps rotates to a different number every so often, to protect themselves AND their families, friends, and neighbors from becoming targets for revenge and further stalking and violence. We as a society OWE them this tiny buffer level of safety, IMO, so that they can do their jobs and go home alive. This isn't Mayberry anymore. It's really, really, really dangerous to be a cop in crime ridden areas.
Even when I was in the military, there is a policy of removing shiny officer rank and name tags in combat zones, to protect command and control from becoming targets. Riots are no less a combat environment than any war zone. Enlisted don't have to salute officers in war zones, to prevent officers from being identified. Riots are civilian terrorism, and should be treated as such. And I'm not talking about peaceful protests, I'm talking about full blown riot mob violence, burning, looting, lobbing improvised explosives at police, like we saw in Ferguson.
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It is brilliant when you think about it. Enter volatile situation, create additional chaos in order to bring in large police presence, sue police for their response. Instant money. And the news is giving these terrorists face time. Disgraceful. The lawyer for the family and everyone involved in trying to "seek justice" for MB had better step forward right NOW to disassociate themselves with this organization.
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