MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #12

[bettybaby00]

When they are on duty, police are supposed to be in full uniform, which includes their badge. And yes, they are supposed to identify themselves while making an arrest- see the lawsuit posted below your own post for details. Civil rights don't disppear just becuase a few rouge cops wish them away. That lawsuit is, IMHO, going to be the first of a few.

Although IA with your civil rights comment, why are more lawsuits for millions of dollars the way to go?

What does winning a $200 million lawsuit do for the community? Why not instead, file a lawsuit that demands change instead of monetary rewards for emotional distress?

I was just watching the news and they were discussing a class action lawsuit against FIFA, and American youth soccer. At first I thought, oh boy what now?

Funny enough, it's a lawsuit concerning the issue of FIFA and youth soccer not doing enough to prevent concussions. What are they seeking? $10 million? $50 million? $100 million? No.

They're suing to change the sport, to protect all future kids who might get hurt needlessly b/c these organizations fail to appreciate how dangerous the sport can be.

“There is an epidemic of concussion injuries in soccer at all levels around the world, including in the United States, from youth to professionals, from elite players to children playing for the first time, women and men, girls and boys,” the filing reads. “FIFA presides over this epidemic and is one of its primary causes.”

The suit seeks an injunction that would change the way soccer is played at all levels. Children under 17 would be limited in how many times they could head the ball. The suit also seeks to require professional and other advanced leagues, which are currently limited to three substitutions a game, to allow temporary substitutions while a player is examined for a head injury. Medical testing would also be available for soccer players who competed as long ago as 2002 and are now coping with the effects of concussions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/s...ds-to-force-rules-changes-in-soccer.html?_r=0

According to the filing, nearly 50,000 HS soccer players suffered concussions in 2010--more than baseball, basketball, softball and wrestling combined.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/...-rule-changes-in-soccer-expert-weighs-in.html

Or if monetary gain is so important to these plaintiffs, why not state that any money awarded as a result of the lawsuit be directed back into the community to help its citizens, providing better education opportunities, or job training, or whatever else the community as a whole could benefit from? This is a community that desperately needs some positive intervention.

So for me, if this Lawsuit against any and everyone connected with StLPD were about effecting change instead of monetary gain, then I think the idea of multiple lawsuits in an attempt to achieve that goal would be honorable.

But that's just me. JMO
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[Gypsy Road]

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Thanks for this Truthy. I've got a Neti Pot..but never used xilitol with the saline. I'll read up on it and try it! Thank you!

 

[Truthy]

Not only that, but the same law firm filing the petition has something to do with the chaos that was happening in Ferguson. Isn't there some code of ethics to prevent an attorney making things happen so he can file a lawsuit? Seems like they could equally file one against him and his group.


Controversy surrounds New Black Panther protester
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/loca...urrounds-new-black-panter-protester/14354297/



Pastors: Man claiming to be peacekeeper actually escalating things in Ferguson
http://www.kmov.com/special-coverag...per-actually-escalating-things-271915931.html

How in the world could these attorneys force these cops into rogue acts?
IYO, how would that happen?

 

[TheDuchess]

I had cnn on a couple of days ago, and the panel was discussing this.

Lemon (quite emphatically) stopped everyone to clarify the timeline of events.

He said the guy did not want to come forward with it because he wanted to stay anonymous. So he told his friend /roommate (he wasn't sure) who is this lawyer.

She gave it to one of Lemon's assistants, and for "some mixed up reason" (again, lemon didn't know), the assistant neglected to give it to Lemon.

Once he did, apparently, Lemon ran with it. Maybe that's when he called her.

I don't know if that show is online, but I would like to rewatch, because I got the impression that she took it to Lemon's guy before the FBI. It annoyed me. But I could have missed something, or they had it wrong at the time.

Just adding this to the table. Personally, I don't think the tape helps us much here. Without the technology and statements for comparison, it could mean anything or nothing.

It may not help us, but it may help the GJ.

 

[hambirg]

When they are on duty, police are supposed to be in full uniform, which includes their badge. And yes, they are supposed to identify themselves while making an arrest- see the lawsuit posted below your own post for details. Civil rights don't disppear just becuase a few rouge cops wish them away. That lawsuit is, IMHO, going to be the first of a few.

"Suppose to" and law are two different things.

I read the lawsuit. It doesn't say anything about failing to identify themselves or what stautes that would break.

There is no Constitutional right to require the LEO arresting you be in full uniform, nor give his/her personal identifying information while you are filming him/her.

 

[LambChop]

In NYC, the standard was if the danger is current and real. Once he fled unarmed, the threat stopped. The protocol would be to call for backup if needed and pursue, not to shoot. Perhaps because the city is so densely populated and the chance of hitting bystanders so great, the PD took this very seriously even when no civiians were hit. I went over this a hundred times over the years with my brother. And a few hundred times with human rights advocates in Britain and Northern Ireland, where rules are much the same. The danger is always something to be reassesd as the situation changes, and fleeing or surrendering certainly changes things. Otherwise there'd be a lot of perps murdered because the cops were vengeful.


all MHO.

I think you need a link for what you are stating as fact is a standard with the MO LE.

 

[bettybaby00]

The FBI had it already CNN called her.

All posts are MOO

But how did they know to call her?

 

[cady]

The citizens of Ferguson and business owners are concerned about their town and really don't like the outsiders and activists tearing up their town and committing violent acts of looting, throwing Molotov cocktails, committing arson, etc.

When the activists leave, what are the citizens going to be left with?

JMO I think that a good discussion of activism is worthwhile, but I do not see how it is probative of the facts of the incident involving Darren Wilson and Michael Brown. Perhaps it needs its own thread? JMO

 

[Truthy]

Thanks for this Truthy. I've got a Neti Pot..but never used xilitol with the saline. I'll read up on it and try it! Thank you!

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[BayouBelle_LA]

Not only that, but the same law firm filing the petition has something to do with the chaos that was happening in Ferguson. Isn't there some code of ethics to prevent an attorney making things happen so he can file a lawsuit? Seems like they could equally file one against him and his group.


Controversy surrounds New Black Panther protester
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/loca...urrounds-new-black-panter-protester/14354297/



Pastors: Man claiming to be peacekeeper actually escalating things in Ferguson
http://www.kmov.com/special-coverag...per-actually-escalating-things-271915931.html

Malik Zulu Shabazz, the man filing the lawsuit is the same man inciting violence. He's seen on video leading a "death chant". “What do we want?” “Darren Wilson.” “How do we want him?” “Dead.”

I can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors. This man is taking advantage of uneducated people to further his cause. $$$ jmo

"Death Chant" video at link - http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168...ath-chant-officer-involved-ferguson-shooting/

 

[Linda7NJ]

The protesters in Ferguson are ALSO concerned about deprivation of civil rights.
I assumed everyone was aware of that.

I'd like to quiz em on the subject of civil rights.



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[Apollo]

Malik Zulu Shabazz, the man filing the lawsuit is the same man inciting violence. He's seen on video leading a "death chant". “What do we want?” “Darren Wilson.” “How do we want him?” “Dead.”

I can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors. This man is taking advantage of uneducated people to further his cause. $$$ jmo

"Death Chant" video at link - http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168...ath-chant-officer-involved-ferguson-shooting/

Well, anyone who can be identified on that video saying that should be charged with threatening to kill a police officer. JMO

 

[Truthy]

"Suppose to" and law are two different things.

I read the lawsuit. It doesn't say anything about failing to identify themselves or what stautes that would break.

There is no Constitutional right to require the LEO arresting you be in full uniform, nor give his/her personal identifying information while you are filming him/her.

Are you saying Ferguson police do not have to wear full uniform while on duty? Link please. Most LE agencies do have detailed and strict regulations about that. As well as procedures that arresting officers must ID themselves, which was refused- hence the filing against "John Doe". I siad nothing about photgraphing anything.

Were all the reporters misinformed about this? I guess the suit will be dismissed shortly if that is the case. We shall see, IMHO, it will cost them. And if that's what it takes for them to follow proper procedures in the future, it's a good thing.

 

[LambChop]

Wow, this is pretty horrific stuff. Matches exactly what most reporters on the scene said happened. It is very sad to hear anyone mke excuses this blatantly illegal behavior on the part of the FPD. Cops should know and follow the law better than anyone, IMHO.

Please post links when you make a statement of fact...."reporters on the scene".

 

[UdbCrzy2]

Malik Zulu Shabazz, the man filing the lawsuit is the same man inciting violence. He's seen on video leading a "death chant". “What do we want?” “Darren Wilson.” “How do we want him?” “Dead.”

I can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors. This man is taking advantage of uneducated people to further his cause. $$$ jmo

"Death Chant" video at link - http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168...ath-chant-officer-involved-ferguson-shooting/

The sad part is if there is a settlement, how much does the plaintiff get compared to what the attorney gets plus all their expenses too. They probably take these cases (including Crump & Parks & Gray) on a contingency basis where they do not payout until settlement.

 

[CHERIE.T]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/michael-brown-ferguson-shooting/

In 2011, Johnson was arrested and accused of theft and lying to police about his first name, age and address.

Johnson said Monday night he doesn't understand why some are questioning his credibility.

"I see they bring up my past, my history, but it's not like it's a long rap sheet," Johnson told Lemon. "This one incident shouldn't make me a bad person."

what??? lol

Yeah cause everyone lies TO COPS about their name, age and address.:naughty::bodyguard::kickcan:

 

[CHERIE.T]

I think it had to do with LE pointing rifles into the crowd, calling them animals, detaining people for no reason and hiding their badges- which people keep trying to rationalize, but there is no excuse for, IMHO. None. It is their job to protect people, not seek revenge for anger at one officer.


All MHO.

NONOOOO cops were not imo trying to seek revenge...
Cops were trying to keep the looters from stealing, breaking and entering, arson and from throwing bottles filled with piss. :steamed::soldier:

 

[TheDuchess]

Yes, I know. In the local news videos the news caster says that the family doesn't want them to be there, but up a few threads he's at the funeral. There are photos of him with Mr. Brown. It could be a situation that the mother doesn't want them there and maybe the father does.

The sad part is if there is a settlement, how much does the plaintiff get compared to what the attorney gets plus all their expenses too. They probably take these cases (including Crump & Parks & Gray) on a contingency basis where they do not payout until settlement.

This guys was at the FUNERAL??? :shame:

 

[hambirg]

"Blumenthal felt it was important to make sure that the authorities got a hold of the recording, though she wasn’t intent on a massive media rollout. But CNN called, and she cooperated with the network on the terms under which the network presented the material to its viewers — for example, she insisted that only the audio component of the recording — and not the video, which would have outed the recorder — would be aired on CNN."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ress-of-hoax-comment-regarding-ferguson-tape/

All posts are MOO

BBM. . .Yeah, I don't want to see the video, thank you very much! :fear:

Kind of OT, but did it occur to anyone else this guy was having his sexy chat time around noon? Idk, maybe he works the nightshift, but I thought it was kind of funny. And then to have the recording blasted all over the interwebs and media. Poor guy, I bet he never lives that down. :giggle:

 

[jggordo]

Even Colbert Report has plenty to say regarding the news coverage of MB and Ferguson. Warning...funny.

JMO

https://screen.yahoo.com/popular/dad-raps-plot-first-harry-201419935.html