MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #12

[cady]

JMO I want to see incontrovertible proof that Wilson started on his way and then returned to MB and DJ with the intention of effecting an arrest on suspicion of MB having minutes earlier strong-arm robbed a store nearby. I know that there are no links to this, because it is one of the many unknowns that are repeatedly asserted as FACT. JMO

 

[Linda7NJ]

JMO I want to see incontrovertible proof that Wilson started on his way and then returned to MB and DJ with the intention of effecting an arrest on suspicion of MB having minutes earlier strong-arm robbed a store nearby. I know that there are no links to this, because it is one of the many unknowns that are repeatedly asserted as FACT. JMO

What, for you, would constitute "proof"?


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[LambChop]

Does anyone have a link to the lawsuit ($200 million one)? I can't find it. Must be too new. Wouldn't the plaintiffs be admitting they were involved in the civil unrest by signing their name to the lawsuit?

 

[Lovejac]

They tricked cops into refusing to ID themselves? INYO, how would that work? It was unreasonable for the woman to be united with her minor child how exactly- she is responsible for that child, and did not deserve to be thrown to the ground for needing to collect her own child, IMHO. That behavior is outrageous. There was, by all accounts, nothing dangerous happening in the Mc Donalds until the cops came in.
There will be more lawsuits by the reporters I think. Those actions will cost the FPD some serious money.

A woman brought her child to a dangerous protest? When did this happen? How old was the child? Was the child hurt?

 

[Muffet]

"Blumenthal felt it was important to make sure that the authorities got a hold of the recording, though she wasn’t intent on a massive media rollout. But CNN called, and she cooperated with the network on the terms under which the network presented the material to its viewers — for example, she insisted that only the audio component of the recording — and not the video, which would have outed the recorder — would be aired on CNN."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ress-of-hoax-comment-regarding-ferguson-tape/

All posts are MOO

Ok, this makes me determined to find a transcript or video of the show I referred to above.

Lemon emphatically said that it started when she (or a friend or worker) gave the tape to one of his people, asking that it be given to Lemon, without identifying the Purdy guy, but Lemon's guy forgot or neglected to give it to him for several days.

This would have been the day after it came out... I'm off to find the transcript.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Warning : May cause head to explode.

http://youtu.be/7K5nVCjOj9I

From Browns funeral, comparing Mike Brown to Jesus Christ.


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[Lovejac]

If they win (which they won't), I hope they receive just compensation to the tune of a coupon for a free Big Mac and a Happy Meal for their inconvenience. But millions of $$$? Huh uh. Who goes to McDonalds in the middle of a riot? Use those millions (If they even exist) to build better schools and hire good teachers.

Don't hold your breath on that one.

 

[Truthy]

I'd like to quiz em on the subject of civil rights.



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Here's an excellent link to help inform the discussion:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...first_amendment_violations_are_only_part.html

 

[Truthy]

Although IA with your civil rights comment, why are more lawsuits for millions of dollars the way to go?

What does winning a $200 million lawsuit do for the community? Why not instead, file a lawsuit that demands change instead of monetary rewards for emotional distress?

I was just watching the news and they were discussing a class action lawsuit against FIFA, and American youth soccer. At first I thought, oh boy what now?

Funny enough, it's a lawsuit concerning the issue of FIFA and youth soccer not doing enough to prevent concussions. What are they seeking? $10 million? $50 million? $100 million? No.

They're suing to change the sport, to protect all future kids who might get hurt needlessly b/c these organizations fail to appreciate how dangerous the sport can be.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/s...ds-to-force-rules-changes-in-soccer.html?_r=0


http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/...-rule-changes-in-soccer-expert-weighs-in.html

Or if monetary gain is so important to these plaintiffs, why not state that any money awarded as a result of the lawsuit be directed back into the community to help its citizens, providing better education opportunities, or job training, or whatever else the community as a whole could benefit from? This is a community that desperately needs some positive intervention.

So for me, if this Lawsuit against any and everyone connected with StLPD were about effecting change instead of monetary gain, then I think the idea of multiple lawsuits in an attempt to achieve that goal would be honorable.

But that's just me. JMO
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Maybe because the FPD is funding is operations by unfairly and excessively targeting people in this community, for their own profit? That is an issue being looked at:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...first_amendment_violations_are_only_part.html

 

[Lovejac]

The citizens of Ferguson and business owners are concerned about their town and really don't like the outsiders and activists tearing up their town and committing violent acts of looting, throwing Molotov cocktails, committing arson, etc.

When the activists leave, what are the citizens going to be left with?

A hot mess.

A dangerous, hot mess to be more precise.

 

[Lovejac]

I know right??? Who are they really hurting? The community of Ferguson. Disgraceful!!!

That doesn't matter a bit to them.

As long as they "gets theirs". Who cares what it costs others?

 

[bettybaby00]

Does anyone have a link to the lawsuit ($200 million one)? I can't find it. Must be too new. Wouldn't the plaintiffs be admitting they were involved in the civil unrest by signing their name to the lawsuit?

I'm under the impression it's this one...it had been referenced that it would be filed today...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/238024549

Not exactly sure about the $200 million concept b/c this lists all types of grievances for $1 million or $1.5 million, but most have "plus emotional distress, plus punitive damages"

 

[Truthy]

A woman brought her child to a dangerous protest? When did this happen? How old was the child? Was the child hurt?

No, she brought her child to Mc Donalds.Where her child was arrested for not leaving the bathroom quickly enough.
Did you see the video footage of the cops storming the place? It was unreal, IMHO.

 

[UdbCrzy2]

Does anyone have a link to the lawsuit ($200 million one)? I can't find it. Must be too new. Wouldn't the plaintiffs be admitting they were involved in the civil unrest by signing their name to the lawsuit?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/238024549/Ferguson-Lawsuit

 

[Lovejac]

It is brilliant when you think about it. Enter volatile situation, create additional chaos in order to bring in large police presence, sue police for their response. Instant money. And the news is giving these terrorists face time. Disgraceful. The lawyer for the family and everyone involved in trying to "seek justice" for MB had better step forward right NOW to disassociate themselves with this organization.

And people fall for it.

All. The. Time.

 

[TorisMom003]

No, she brought her child to Mc Donalds.Where her child was arrested for not leaving the bathroom quickly enough.
Did you see the video footage of the cops storming the place? It was unreal, IMHO.

There is a video of "protestors" being led in a rant/chant that says Who do we want? Darren Wilson. How do we want him? Dead.

There is a young girl shown in that video holding up a sign that is in line with the "protestors". That is the young girl that was being discussed in the post that was responded to.

ETA: Never mind. I just went back and noticed that two little girls were being talked about.

 

[deoneta]

I asked for a link about them being allowed to work out of offical uniform, or refuse to ID themselves while arresting citizens- not seeing either of these things there? Thanks!

Ron Johnson addressed this issue:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/15/ferguson-police-identities_n_5682645.html

 

[Muffet]

Maybe she left a message (email, voicemail) to contact her. In hopes to get some media attention/$$$. JMO.

Don Lemon mentioned a little while ago on Brook's show that when he called her, she and her client were just meeting with FBI in her office, IIRC.

He said that on the show I saw too. This would have been Wednesday afternoon? The day after the night he came out with the tape.

He said that once he finally got the tape (which his intern or underling had forgotten to give him for several days), he got on the phone and called her.

And he said it just so happened that when he called her, she was meeting with the FBI.

I'm having a very hard time finding videos of old episodes from my phone.

It would have been aired around 5:30 that day.

 

[Lovejac]

Malik Zulu Shabazz, the man filing the lawsuit is the same man inciting violence. He's seen on video leading a "death chant". “What do we want?” “Darren Wilson.” “How do we want him?” “Dead.”

I can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors. This man is taking advantage of uneducated people to further his cause. $$$ jmo

"Death Chant" video at link - http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168...ath-chant-officer-involved-ferguson-shooting/

IMO he is no different from a gangbanger recruiting members.

Except he dresses nicer.

 

[cady]

What, for you, would constitute "proof"?


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A recorded dispatch for back-up to arrest the suspect(s) in the robbery would be solid proof. JMO