Ok, I have to get busy after this, but I will say this before I go to do my chores....not all the evidence is out, and that could greatly change the things we are debating as of right now. However, what will not change is the fact that you must listen and obey LE, and if you feel they are wrong, there is a way to change that. Violence and aggression towards them will not be that way. Teaching young men to respect the law, or become active proponents in change of it through active participation either in LE directly or through community based activism will. I challenged a ticket I got because the speed limit in the area was set up to simply be a speed trap, and through petition and writing in to several different people, I got the speed limit changed. If I would have got all my friends to join me in a free for all drag race through that area I doubt anything would have changed, except I would have had my friends with me in defensive driving class. We can change the way things are, but we have to change them in a positive, proactive way. Involvement and thoughtful discussion will lead to change, maybe not overnight, but persistence and demanding more of ourselves will get results.