MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #11

[HmmWhoKnows]

Their general actions of tidying — particularly the glass incident — despite a ‘bin’ being within feet beneath the carport, as well as trespassing, is not something normal people do. It’s more a long the lines of something a ‘drug user’ may be inclined to.

Right but, so? Like, what if she's just some weirdo woman and that's the extent of it? Can't talk in circles about her odd behavior for decades then never have it amount to anything. Did you work the lead? What did you find out beyond suspicions?

 

[asyousay]

To all who have some suspicions about Janelle: have you investigated the lead beyond initial questions? Hurricane brought this up in the past about people just going in circles about it ad nauseum but never ever working the leads.

sorry this makes me laugh so because I am from the UK and can’t contact Janelle then it doesn’t make my questions valid?

How on earth am I supposed to chase her up and work the leads? ... I have valid questions that have never been answered. You are free to ignore them as you have other ideas on who did this which is fine.


Nobody on this forum knows what that house looked like when the women was kidnapped and what may of happened in the hours afterwards when people popped in and out.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

sorry this makes me laugh so because I am from the UK and can’t contact Janelle then it doesn’t make my questions valid?

How on earth am I supposed to chase her up and work the leads? ... I have valid questions that have never been answered. You are free to ignore them as you have other ideas on who did this which is fine.


Nobody on this forum knows what that house looked like when the women was kidnapped and what may of happened in the hours afterwards when people popped in and out.

It's very easy to get in contact with people. Do we want to do actual sleuthing or just discuss random possibilities until cows come home? Serious question.

There's been nothing new regarding Janelle. Nothing. You haven't said one thing I haven't heard 3000 times. It's time to work the lead or realize she was just the one who discovered them and she's a little "off" and that's the extent. Circumstantial evidence doesn't prove a thing. They tried to force pieces to "fit" with Cox. Couldn't even get a judge to sign off on a GJ because it was so weak. Can't apply same logic to Janelle. Have to have dead-to-rights proof.

 

[asyousay]

Not believing it until I see a source. Sounds made up TBH.

Well I didn’t make it up and the problem is there are a billion forums to go back to try and find the quote.

You are free to believe what you wish but the KC quote is easy enough to find I am sure. The out takes on disappeared would be harder to find but it may be on YouTube as sometimes they play tv adverts and then don’t always include everything in the show.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Well I didn’t make it up and the problem is there are a billion forums to go back to try and find the quote.

You are free to believe what you wish but the KC quote is easy enough to find I am sure. The out takes on disappeared would be harder to find but it may be on YouTube as sometimes they play tv adverts and then don’t always include everything in the show.

You don't have to explain editing to me. I know not everything is included...but how does a random forum person know this? Have you checked if they're not a person trying to cast guilt on Janelle by lying about this?

There's Websleuths guidelines that "other forums" don't count as legit sources. Any nutjob can say anything they want.

Need legit hard proof on that before it can be believe. That's all I mean.

 

[asyousay]

It's very easy to get in contact with people. Do we want to do actual sleuthing or just discuss random possibilities until cows come home? Serious question.

There's been nothing new regarding Janelle. Nothing. You haven't said one thing I haven't heard 3000 times. It's time to work the lead or realize she was just the one who discovered them and she's a little "off" and that's the extent. Circumstantial evidence doesn't prove a thing. They tried to force pieces to "fit" with Cox. Couldn't even get a judge to sign off on a GJ because it was so weak. Can't apply same logic to Janelle. Have to have dead-to-rights proof.

I am not a person that is going to randomally stalk Janelle online and then message her asking her for information on that day. That would be super creepy and taking things really far.

The GRAND JURY suspects are all certainty capable of doing this but I think this was closer to home.

the grave yard diggers again their crime was abhorrent but why would they then murder 3 women and 2 of them were not even involved in grassing them up.

IMO

 

[Talullah]

Because I've read every single report about this crime and there's no "CORRECTIONS:" lede.

I don’t doubt that you have but unless the source of their information or someone in law enforcement asks for a correction there’s nothing to correct and their most recent story stands. An update is an update. If Janelle didn’t change her story she should absolutely ask the News Leader to correct and clarify.

 

[thx4_medic_Babby]

Right but, so? Like, what if she's just some weirdo woman and that's the extent of it? Can't talk in circles about her odd behavior for decades then never have it amount to anything. Did you work the lead? What did you find out beyond suspicions?

Unfortunately, that’s not the extent of it. She is last known individual to see the two girls, isn’t she? What is her alibi the night before and morning of, and who can confirm this?

 

[asyousay]

Let’s not forget this video where she called Suzie her friend “ the other girl” which is quite disrespectful and let’s not forget “ the other girl” is the home where she walked into uninvited and helped destroy a crime a scene and poked around and answered the phone.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

I am not a person that is going to randomally stalk Janelle online and then message her asking her for information on that day. That would be super creepy and taking things really far.

The GRAND JURY suspects are all certainty capable of doing this but I think this was closer to home.

the grave yard diggers again their crime was abhorrent but why would they then murder 3 women and 2 of them were not even involved in grassing them up.

IMO

"That other girl" has been discussed to death.

Grand Jury was close to home. Garrison/his associates -> Dusty -> Suzie. To abduct three women you need criminal know-how and land and vehicles and a plan. The gang member fringe certainly had that capability.

How "close to home" do you want? I mean that's one-off connection to a criminal network. Springfield wasn't that big. And they have motive to be spooked by a testimony in court that might open up possibilities that the crew MC/JR/DR knew. It wasn't about what Suzie knew with the GR...no one abducts over that. They abduct/kill because they have knowledge of something and I agree with OTB/Hurricane that that is the likeliest direction.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Let’s not forget this video where she called Suzie her friend “ the other girl” which is quite disrespectful and let’s not forget “ the other girl” is the home where she walked into uninvited and helped destroy a crime a scene and poked around and answered the phone.

Is that worse than someone saying they hope "*advertiser censored* were dead?" Just curious.

 

[cherrymeg]

But also who is telling the truth?

And if we’re to believe Mike Clay is honest about Suzie’s car and of Dustin’s alibi, then why did Asher say what he said?

Lots of inaccuracies here that I wish we could get to the bottom of. Because GUESS WHAT! Sgt. Dave Asher is the source for ALL the early reporting. He reported many things directly to the press if it wasn’t Capt. Tony Glenn. And Glenn worked right alongside Asher!

So was Mike Clay being framed/set up by the cops? Is that what we’re going with here?

And you’re right, Chief Knowles cleared the grave robbers. Moore hinted in Crime Watch Daily that they weren’t cleared by “some of us” and then you have Asher saying they’re straight up still considered suspects despite having no fingerprints in the house. Operative word “in the house” but there was never a sign of struggle and some hand thought the crime might have taken place in the yard (I don’t think that).

But we have to know if we can trust Asher or not. He’s straight up the source for most of the early reporting....

It shows at the very least that Asher doesn’t give a **** about their polygraph. Nor Bartt’s. So everyone is on the table now.

Asher is not a cop anymore. He can say his opinions which haven't deviated in the last 27 years. I found other officers to be more credible. Glenn seemed straightforward. Asher was in a show before. He makes inappropriate comments about Suzie while looking at her pictures. It was unprofessional.

sorry this makes me laugh so because I am from the UK and can’t contact Janelle then it doesn’t make my questions valid?

How on earth am I supposed to chase her up and work the leads? ... I have valid questions that have never been answered. You are free to ignore them as you have other ideas on who did this which is fine.


Nobody on this forum knows what that house looked like when the women was kidnapped and what may of happened in the hours afterwards when people popped in and out.

I hope they checked for blood when they finger printed the house. I mean the evidence that blood had been cleaned up.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

We're supposed to just think there wasn't proof even though the cops did multiple digs and claimed they had prime information they never revealed to the public?

 

[cherrymeg]

We're supposed to just think there wasn't proof even though the cops did multiple digs and claimed they had prime information they never revealed to the public?

Are you talking about the Robb farm?

 

[asyousay]

We're supposed to just think there wasn't proof even though the cops did multiple digs and claimed they had prime information they never revealed to the public?

Why didn’t they release the information on what made them do digs and they did say they found something right but have never revealed what they found?

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Why didn’t they release the information on what made them do digs and they did say they found something right but have never revealed what they found?

Don't know but they got gag orders signed off by a judge. Definitely something to it.

And here we are wasting time talking about Janelle when you have a legit criminal/rapist/gang member in Garrison dictating dig locations multiple times.

 

[asyousay]

Is that worse than someone saying they hope "*advertiser censored* were dead?" Just curious.

Yes absolutely as the Grave Robbers had a legitimate reason for saying what they did even if it was totally distasteful. I can’t remember which one of them said it but they was obviously still angry over Suzie’s part in their arrest.

Janelle on the other hand was supposedly a friend so to go on national tv and to pretend like you wasn’t friends and to try and distance yourself from Suzie is just on whole other level of being nasty.


MOO

ETA - I don’t like any of the grave robbers but I understand them being snarky and angry still at Suzie over her part in their arrest.

 

[scadagirl28]

Asher is not a cop anymore. He can say his opinions which haven't deviated in the last 27 years. I found other officers to be more credible. Glenn seemed straightforward. Asher was in a show before. He makes inappropriate comments about Suzie while looking at her pictures. It was unprofessional.

Does anyone know why he had to go to the photography studio to see her senior pictures ? That seemed unusual to me.

I hope they checked for blood when they finger printed the house. I mean the evidence that blood had been cleaned up.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

ETA - I don’t like any of the grave robbers but I understand them being snarky and angry still at Suzie over her part in their arrest.

Oh do you?

Also Janelle wasn't on national TV, she was bombarded at her house by a local reporter right after she got home from Hydroslide with Mike and before she could process the seriousness of what she discovered earlier in the day.

We're at an impasse because I believe Janelle to be 100% innocent. Someone had to discover them. No point talking for years in circles about her behavior, especially when it's led to zilch.

 

[cherrymeg]

Yes absolutely as the Grave Robbers had a legitimate reason for saying what they did even if it was totally distasteful. I can’t remember which one of them said it but they was obviously still angry over Suzie’s part in their arrest.

Janelle on the other hand was supposedly a friend so to go on national tv and to pretend like you wasn’t friends and to try and distance yourself from Suzie is just on whole other level of being nasty.


MOO

ETA - I don’t like any of the grave robbers but I understand them being snarky and angry still at Suzie over her part in their arrest.

Also it's possible that they were angry at the police and lashed out. You are right Janelle was supposed to be their friend. She was making herself at home at "that other girl's" house. She was also on TV which makes it worse because it wasn't a surprise, she knew what she was saying.