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They will. They have to finish the investigation first. Missouri law.
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It's been days. I assume Pete Sr. will not be joining us as a verified insider.
I didn't notice any snark, "The reason reason." Glad you're back.
Pete, it sure feels that way, doesn't it? We know they have the dash video, though. So they better release it.
On another topic:
The other day I was trying to verify Toni's cell phone being with her, and all I could find was people on here asking about it. I just came across this video that states that Toni's purse and cell phone were found with her, according to her family.
"Family members confirm that the 20-year-old's body was found inside the car along with her purse and cell phone."
source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-khxrvQ04v4
I am back folks. I guess I let my frustration come through a little bit and made an insensitive statement. I apologize. While I was away I see that the majority of you are back on track. Ace, you seem to be leading the pack as far as logic and accuracy are concerned. I have said it many times, but I will say it again. It is Missouri law for all records to be turned over via a sunshine law request once the investigation is closed. This one remains open and will be for 10 or more weeks based on toxicology return times and assuming the accident theory is dispelled my the KCPD. Folks there is no conspiracy and there is no smoking gun. I will not claim to be an insider as there is no benefit for me to do so, only problems. I will yell you that you can file a sunshine request to the KCPD once the case is closed, pay the processing fees (it will be expensive, I hear the case file is very extensive) and satisfy your curiosity. In the end you will recognize the truth. This was a tragedy of the greatest proportions wherein a lovely young woman lost her life and her parents lost what they knew to be reality. People ask, why did Liz subscribe to the human trafficking? How about because it was the only scenario in which her daughter was still alive. Her parents have been included in the investigation from the beginning and will know everything before it is made public. Pray for those good folks and everyone else who loses a loved one to an early grave. It happens every minute of every hour. If I have been snarky in the past it is because I feel so much pain for Toni's wonderful family and am tired of seeing them and the detectives who worked tirelessly to discover the truth get drug through the mud. I don't k now what else to say except that this is a time to be patient and logical. The answers to all your questions will be revealed soon.
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Glad you're back. While I appreciate your sentiment, this is still your opinion. Maybe you have access to inside information.
My opinion is something fishy is going. For me, I would like to see the evidence that is it not foul play. To me the logical answers with the information we have is she did not slide down that ramp on accident. If I am wrong, then I, like many will be relieved there was no harm brought to her.
You are right, such a tragedy. I sincerely hope the answers, when they come make sense.
Do we really know if there is dash cam footage? [...]
Why would he join here when most people on this forum defame him?
This is important to consider the fact Toni was dressed, all her belongings were there and her seat belt was off and the window down. I'm going with the accident theory once again. Possibly they've figured out she didn't go into the water from the boat ramp. Being fully clothed pretty much leaves me knowing it wasn't a rape or sexual assault. All of her belonging being in the car leaves robbery out. I talked with someone from Parkville who goes to that park a lot. She said the Officer that patrols the park drives through every fifteen minutes. Doesn't sound like anyone would kill and dump a body in that park early on a Sunday morning when the park was open with it being patrolled often. Everyone says Toni wouldn't have killed herself but guess suicide could still be the cause. That would explain going down the ramp but doesn't explain the seat belt being off and the window down. Acci
dent and she tried to get out is what it looks like happened. Cold water caused shock and she died in the car. Drown or a heart attack.
I am back folks. I guess I let my frustration come through a little bit and made an insensitive statement. I apologize. While I was away I see that the majority of you are back on track. Ace, you seem to be leading the pack as far as logic and accuracy are concerned. I have said it many times, but I will say it again. It is Missouri law for all records to be turned over via a sunshine law request once the investigation is closed. This one remains open and will be for 10 or more weeks based on toxicology return times and assuming the accident theory is dispelled my the KCPD. Folks there is no conspiracy and there is no smoking gun. I will not claim to be an insider as there is no benefit for me to do so, only problems. I will yell you that you can file a sunshine request to the KCPD once the case is closed, pay the processing fees (it will be expensive, I hear the case file is very extensive) and satisfy your curiosity. In the end you will recognize the truth. This was a tragedy of the greatest proportions wherein a lovely young woman lost her life and her parents lost what they knew to be reality. People ask, why did Liz subscribe to the human trafficking? How about because it was the only scenario in which her daughter was still alive. Her parents have been included in the investigation from the beginning and will know everything before it is made public. Pray for those good folks and everyone else who loses a loved one to an early grave. It happens every minute of every hour. If I have been snarky in the past it is because I feel so much pain for Toni's wonderful family and am tired of seeing them and the detectives who worked tirelessly to discover the truth get drug through the mud. I don't k now what else to say except that this is a time to be patient and logical. The answers to all your questions will be revealed soon.
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I openly said I was rough on Pete in the sense of him going against the parents wishes. I do take issue with that. This is based on my family dynamics. I posed the question to Pete, at what point did he realize or believe he was warranted in doing this? I'm sure as a parent himself he can appreciate my questioning this. If it was his son and another person was going against him I'm sure he can understand my point. He'll probably not be able to answer this.
Other than that I don't think anyone asked anything inappropriate or disrespectful. It's a crime website, we ask questions about everyone. : )
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There's another video on youtube that shows that a car that enters the water with a window down sinks very quickly. It would have been found closer to the boat ramp, imho.
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