Found Deceased MT - Rita Maze, 47, Wolf Creek, 6 Sept 2016 #1

[oceanblueeyes]

I am skeptical about how Daily Mail got this information before local news. Just seems weird.


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It isn't the first time I have seen them do so.

Some seem to think the Daily Mail isn't credible but I have followed their site in many cases and I haven't seen one where they put out wrong information. In fact many times the articles I read written by them are much more in detail than even the local news sites in the locations where the murders happened.

I have read they do have reporters here living in the states so they can report on cases quickly.

I am not going to discount what they have said until its learned they have it wrong.

 

[Gardener1850]

But even the part about paying for the wedding years ago doesn't make sense. How would you do that exactly?


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There are some popular wedding venues that are booked years in advance. They may have booked it and put a deposit down already and have the rest of the money saved. She could already have her dress and many other things too. People do save money for years for weddings. I agree it's strange the way it was worded but the point is the same--the relative is saying they were not hurting for money. People were thinking a wedding would be a financial burden and a stress. I'm sure that is what the relative is reacting to--the speculation that they couldn't afford a wedding. Regardless of Rita's financial situation though, her daughter works as a nurse, IIRC. Her fiance is also employed. They could pay for their own wedding if money was an issue. Fewer adults these days depend on their parents to pay for the wedding. JMO.

 

[jjenny]

It isn't the first time I have seen them do so.

Some seem to think the Daily Mail isn't credible but I have followed their site in many cases and I haven't seen one where they put out wrong information. In fact many times the articles I read written by them are much more in detail than even the local news sites in the locations where the murders happened.

I have read they do have reporters here living in the states so they can report on cases quickly.

I am not going to discount what they have said until its learned they have it wrong.

Not one case? One was just on the news. Trump's wife is suing them for libel .

"Trump filed suit against The Daily Mail and Tarpley, a U.S.-based blog, on Thursday, claiming that the two outlets made false and defamatory statements about her involvement in an escort service."
http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/01/media/melania-trump-daily-mail-libel-suit/

 

[skibaboo]

But even the part about paying for the wedding years ago doesn't make sense. How would you do that exactly?


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Despite their tabloid reputation, the DM online are fantastic at getting the scoop. They often beat the US media to details and pics and do seem to get quite accurate information. Don't ask me how they do it but generally their info is pretty good.

I wonder if this is the POI that was ruled out, could be a homeless man Rita gave her card to, and took him to go get food. Idk this is bizarre.

 

[LietKynes]

Thought that the manner of Rita's passing was fairly clear ; now it's become less so.

Was there any chance at all she was meeting someone ? And then things unraveled ?
:moo:

 

[CarmelEyesD]

Could be if she dropped the card, or being stressed simply left it behind..on a counter, near a soda machine, etc...

 

[Gardener1850]

Could be if she dropped the card, or being stressed simply left it behind..on a counter, near a soda machine, etc...

And a man fitting the description she gave of her alleged abductor happened to pick it up and employees of the store didn't see her anywhere? Seems unlikely, IMO.

For anyone behind: DM posted a photo, allegedly of the man who used Rita's card and they also interviewed employees who described him and what he bought: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-trunk-car-Washington-gas-station-killer.html

 

[bluesneakers]

And a man fitting the description she gave of her alleged abductor happened to pick it up and employees of the store didn't see her anywhere? Seems unlikely, IMO.

For anyone behind: DM posted a photo, allegedly of the man who used Rita's card and they also interviewed employees who described him and what he bought: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-trunk-car-Washington-gas-station-killer.html

Maybe she gave the description of the person who used her card. As in - he used her card and when she called her husband that's the description she gave. If someone else had used her card she would have given her husband that description.

According the the timeline with the DM's article the card was used at 9:55 and she called her husband at 10:25.

 

[SeesSeas]

I think the family is disappointed in LE. The family probably decided they needed shoe leather detective work. The family seems persistent and resourceful.

According to DailyMail, when Rita was missing “The family, meanwhile, launched a search – driving up and down the road between Helena and Great Falls looking for her car and calling round local hospitals and jails to ask if she was there.”

If LE didn’t share with the family the convenience store photo of the person who used Rita’s credit card, the family probably decided they would search for this information themselves.

The family perhaps bargained with DailyMail… requesting that DailyMail interview the clerk, publish the photo of the clerk and the photo of the person conducting the transaction with the credit card; and in return the Maze’s would provide family photos for their news story.

There are several family photos in the current news article. There is this caption “family photos exclusively obtained by Daily Mail Online“.

The family is probably petrified that the case will stall or that evidence will be lost.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-trunk-car-Washington-gas-station-killer.html

 

[Inthedetails]

Maybe she gave the description of the person who used her card. As in - he used her card and when she called her husband that's the description she gave. If someone else had used her card she would have given her husband that description.

According the the timeline with the DM's article the card was used at 9:55 and she called her husband at 10:25.

That's what I think happened.

jmo

 

[Gardener1850]

Maybe she gave the description of the person who used her card. As in - he used her card and when she called her husband that's the description she gave. If someone else had used her card she would have given her husband that description.

According the the timeline with the DM's article the card was used at 9:55 and she called her husband at 10:25.

Is that 10:25 Helena Montana time though? at 10:25 in Montana it is 9:25 in Ritzville. No time Zones are reported.
I will agree she could have given the man her card as part of some elaborate scheme but she didn't just drop it and a man fitting her description picked it up. JMO.

 

[SeesSeas]

Maybe she gave the description of the person who used her card. As in - he used her card and when she called her husband that's the description she gave. If someone else had used her card she would have given her husband that description.

According the the timeline with the DM's article the card was used at 9:55 and she called her husband at 10:25.

From all of the descriptions of Rita, she doesn’t seem like someone who would implicate a specific innocent person as committing murder, punishable by death penalty or life in prison.
This case is baffling!

 

[Vail]

I am skeptical about how Daily Mail got this information before local news. Just seems weird.


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The article was written by Ruth Styles, a journalist from Spokane. The DM as a budget for obtaining information.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

The simplest explanation would be that the story she told her family was true and the man using her card is the abductor.

I'm not sure what I believe at this point.

 

[blue22]

Maybe she gave the description of the person who used her card. As in - he used her card and when she called her husband that's the description she gave. If someone else had used her card she would have given her husband that description.

According the the timeline with the DM's article the card was used at 9:55 and she called her husband at 10:25.

I agree. I think that's exactly what happened.

JMO

 

[bluesneakers]

From all of the descriptions of Rita, she doesn’t seem like someone who would implicate a specific innocent person as committing murder, punishable by death penalty or life in prison.
This case is baffling!

Good point.

Could there be some reason she knew they would figure out the man who used her card wasn't her kidnapper? Or was her description vague enough it wouldn't really matter?

There are so many loose ends and unknowns. I hope we learn more tomorrow.

 

[Gardener1850]

Good point.

Could there be some reason she knew they would figure out the man who used her card wasn't her kidnapper? Or was her description vague enough it wouldn't really matter?

There are so many loose ends and unknowns. I hope we learn more tomorrow.

How many 6' 5" dark skinned men are wandering around Montana/Idaho/Washington State? This says just 18% of the population of Washington are non-white: http://www.ofm.wa.gov/trends/population/fig306.asp
If she wanted to pick a nondescript person to make them hard to identify, she should have chosen an average height white man. I'm leaning towards she told the truth and LE's lack of statements/vague statements have been misconstrued. I'm trying to suspend judgement until we know more but it's really hard to believe she would make this whole thing up and get another innocent person involved. JMO.

 

[bluesneakers]

Is that 10:25 Helena Montana time though? at 10:25 in Montana it is 9:25 in Ritzville. No time Zones are reported.
I will agree she could have given the man her card as part of some elaborate scheme but she didn't just drop it and a man fitting her description picked it up. JMO.

• 9:55 p.m.: Maze’s credit card is used in Ritzville, Wash.

• At 10:25 p.m.: Maze calls her husband and daughter. She tells them she’s in a trunk of a vehicle, but she’s not sure if it’s hers. She said she was struck on the head and forced into the trunk of her car at a rest stop near Wolf Creek north of Helena. Also, sometime in the late evening, a Helena police officer, searching for Maze, calls her cellphone number and she answers. They speak for 10 minutes. She tells him she doesn’t know where she’s at.

• 11 p.m.: The Spokane County Sheriff’s Office is notified by the Helena Police Department that Maze is missing and is possibly in the area of Spokane County.

• 1:30 a.m.: Following Maze’s cellphone, Spokane County Sheriff’s Office deputies find Maze’s black Grand Prix on the 7600 block of West Geiger Blvd., which is near the Spokane International Airport just west of Spokane. Maze is in the car, deceased. Nobody else was found at the scene.

Sources: Interviews with family, Lewis and Clark County Sheriff’s Office, Spokane County Sheriff’s Office, Spokane County Medical Examiner. Times are in Mountain Standard Time.

BBM

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/st...reat-falls-woman-found-near-spokane/90021112/

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

I don't see the need for an elaborate scheme to have someone innocent of murder use her card. What's the point?

 

[Inthedetails]

If he's a car-jacker in possession of a stolen card, wouldn't he purchase more than $25 worth of gas-station food?

jmo