Identified! Mystery couple murdered in South Carolina, 1976 - #7 Pam Buckley & James P Freund

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On Wikileaks, I found a longer list of possible names. Yes I know, Wikileaks, but as it's an intelligence cable declassified in 2019 with a much longer list than we had in the 1976 cable, it would worth scoring the other names. At least to eliminate rules-out.

I know that it's a tedious task, but if we can at least narrow down the list, it would be helpful!

Cable: 1977BUENOS05592_c
 
For the cases I could not find any corroborative evidence, I will ask to Abuelas de Plaza de Mayo if there are elements to corroborate if they were released, are disappeared or anything.

I'll give you the answer in Spanish and give a summary in English.

Because I don't feel able to translate what I've found: there are so many tasks related to this angle that I prefer delegating translation to other sleuthers.

Scouring declassified cables + ascertaining whethether they can be a rule-out is for a library mouse, which I am described by my parents :)
In French, a library mouse means someone who will take a lot of time only to find one detail, and can spend inordinate amounts of time for it.
I like being described as a library mouse btw :)
I know it's a necessity when trying to match UIDs with MPs.

Which brings me a question for you.
In this forum, how can we call a disappeared by enforced disappearance?

IMHO, a MP is a missing person in a typical sense.

The disappeared are a whole other ballgame, as the State makes them disappear, refuse to acknowledge their faith nor wherabouts and do everything to conceal their existance. And their family and friends can even be in danger for trying to find the person, filing a MP report is not even an option in the case of enforced disappearances.

I know that there are plenty of MP who are not reported missing for many possible reasons, or which report has been destroyed.
But I stress that it's a whole different issue from enforced disappearances. In the case of disappeared, the State does everything to conceal the person's existance. In typical unreported MPs, the reason of non reporting are very different, however, it's not a matter where the State wants to erase person's existance because of being opposed with State regime's ideas.

International Convention against Enforced Disappearance: OHCHR | Convention CED
The Art 5 states that:
Article 5

The widespread or systematic practice of enforced disappearance constitutes a crime against humanity as defined in applicable international law and shall attract the consequences provided for under such applicable international law.
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RBBM the crux of the specific aspect.

The problem is even worse when enforced disappearance is done in inter-country cooperation as in the case with US South American dictatures in the '70s-'80s era.
 
Giuc0 said:
On Wikileaks, I found a longer list of possible names. Yes I know, Wikileaks, but as it's an intelligence cable declassified in 2019 with a much longer list than we had in the 1976 cable, it would worth scoring the other names. At least to eliminate rules-out.

I know that it's a tedious task, but if we can at least narrow down the list, it would be helpful!

Cable: 1977BUENOS05592_c
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Scouring this document, I will discuss the names not already explored here: Mystery couple murdered in South Carolina, 1976 - #7


JUAN MENDEZ: per Wikipedia, he is alive and well Juan E. Méndez - Wikipedia

PEDRO LUCERO: per Wikipedia, was freed 4 days after. He died in 2001 Pedro León Lucero - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre

ERNESTO BENADO: he effectively leaved Argentina after his emprisonment. Published a book in 2017 “Socialismo: se hace camino al andar”, el testimonio de cinco décadas de militancia política de Ernesto Benado

PATRICK RICE: effectively deported in London, UK, then regained Argentina in 1984 where he lived. He died in 2010 in the US while going back to Argentina Patrick Rice - Wikipedia

CARLOS DAMIEN MUNOZ: survived his detention at ESMA, giving interview in Argentina in 2015 Página/12 :: El país :: “Hay una operación política”

ROBERTO & ALICIA PIZARRO: I haven't found any element to comprobate that they effectively left Argentina as reported. No independent source, no photo, nothing.

MONICA MARIA MIGNONE: she is effectively a disappeared, detained at ESMA since May 1976 Behind the Disappearances
and Desaparecidos en Argentina: Mónica María Candelaria Mignone

FRANCISCO BELLAGAMBA: He is a disappeared since April 1976. His wife tells about him: Desaparecidos en Argentina - Testimonios: Hugo Francisco Bellagamba
and Desaparecidos en Argentina: Hugo Francisco Bellagamba

EMILIO & CARMEN DE IPOLA: The only Emilio de Ipola I found is on Facebook, his last public message was in Feb 2018. I haven't found any comprobating data about him nor about his wife.

MARCELO ARIEL GELMAN: his body was formally identified in 1989 in Argentina Marcelo Ariel Gelman Schuberoff

NORA GELMAN: died in 2017, was a militant at Abuelas de Plaza de Mayo Falleció Nora Gelman: una vida dedicada a la Memoria, Verdad y Justicia

MANUELA ELMINA SANTUCHO: She is said "Under review". Another cable about her: The National Security Archive
She is a disappeared
 
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After a break, back at scouring the list of names. It is indeed a very long one!

DR. MARIO SCHRAIER: I have found nothing beyond the cable I am scouring. Something I didn't expect, as because being called "Doctor" in Argentina in those days means that you are highly educated and hold a respectable position.
So, I have no element to rule him out, but unlikely him.

SILVIA SAEZ VUISTAZ: she is a disappeared and her case was in Court in 2016 Noveno juicio: testigos sobre la desaparición de Sáez de Vuistaz - Saltalibre

MARIA PEREZ BRAVO: I found a Cuban homonyme, which can't be disappeared from Argentina Marta María Pérez Bravo - Wikipedia
The Cuban artist can not be our lady because she is alive.
The person told in the cable is another person whom I have not found a thing

MARIA DEL CARMEN SABINO: she is a disappeared Desaparecidos en Argentina: Maria del Carmen Sabino

GERARDO BATTI ATUNA: except this cable, I found absolutely nothing about him. He is nowhere listed as a disappeared

NAMBA VILLAGRA: she is a disappeared according to her daughter's interview Entrevista a Lucía Villagra, hija de desaparecida, bailarina, y profesora de tango: “Bailando la tristeza se iba por un rato”

RAIMUNDO NACHUMOW: found homonyms, so I am not sure about him at all.

VICTOR JACOBO NOE: he is a disappeared according to his brother Piden no olvidar a Víctor Noé, el único abogado salteño desaparecido en la dictadura

ANDRES CULTELLI: he died in 2003 in Uruguay A los 81 años, murió Cultelli, histórico dirigente del MLN

CLAUDIA INES PEIRO: she has written this article in 2016 about her disappearance during the Dirty War El día que Kissinger intercedió por mí - Infobae

MIGUEL ALFREDO POINSTEAU: he's a disappeared Desaparecidos en Argentina: Miguel Alfredo Poinsteau Neuman

Americo Delia Sady: both spouses are disappeared Página/12 :: El país :: “Yo estaba lista para morir, pero no para el genocidio”

ANGEL BUSTELO: he died in 1998 Falleció Angel Bustelo - LA NACION

ALBA GAROFOLO: the cable contains a spelling mistake. She is disappeared and her child was born in captivity, still not found as of 2020 PLACCI - GARÓFALO | Nuestros Nietos | Abuelas de Plaza de Mayo

JULIO, YANAZ: spelling mistake again. Desaparecido. From the photo found on the link, he can't be our man: bone structure doesn't fit Desaparecidos en Argentina: Julio Cesar Yañez
 
EDUARDO KORIN: found that he was named in a Court case Juicio Olivera Róvere - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre
But I haven't found a reliable website where he is listed as a disappeared, only a Facebook page on his memory. But the Court case about him is talked about here: En Memoria De Eduardo Mario Korin
I'm sorry, I haven't found any better corroborative source.

EDMUNDO & SUSANA SZAPIRO: both of them are disappeared Base de datos de consulta pública | Parque de la Memoria

JULIA KLENK: I haven't found any corroborative element and it's quite a widespread name in German speaking countries

GUSTAVO PASIK: he is a disappeared Desaparecidos en Argentina: Gustavo Pasik

SUSANA LIBEDINSKY: she is a disappeared Desaparecida en Argentina: Susana Libedinsky

MAURICIO LOPEZ: he died in a clandestine detention center Histórico fallo de la justicia por la memoria de Mauricio López – Noticias – UNSL

HORACIO HECTOR CREA: he was alive in 1981 InfoLeg - Información Legislativa and he was part of the Court case for being a victim of torture Los condenados por los “pabellones de la muerte” seguirán detenidos

ADELINA BEATRIZ MORDASINI: she was freed with her spouse Carlos Figueredo Ríos in 1977 Equipo Nizkor - Fundamentos de la sentencia en la Causa "ESMA" (Escuela de Mecánica de la Armada - GT 3.3.2).
"Asimismo, el hecho relatado se encuentra acreditado con las manifestaciones vertidas en el debate por Adelina Beatriz Mordasini, quien relató de manera elocuente los detalles del secuestro y cautiverio dentro de la ESMA, posterior traslado al centro clandestino conocido como "Club Atlético" y liberación del damnificado."

The other disappeared were jailed in 1977, way later than our couple.
 
For Roberto Pizzaro, I found a possible comprobating data. He was detained in 1976 in Argentina, then left in Nicaragua, then US. He is currently alive Roberto Pizarro Hofer - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre
However, I haven't found anything about his wife.
The cable seems to be prolific of spelling mistakes, which adds a layer of complexity.
If the comprobating data is really about him, then he can't be our man.
 
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Ok, after having scoured declassified documents with a possible list, I think that we can narrow down to a few possible folks.
The problem is that we don't have the full names and the spelling mistakes, which hampers any research.

- EMILIO & CARMEN DE IPOLA: The only Emilio de Ipola I found is on Facebook, his last public message was in Feb 2018. I haven't found any comprobating data about him nor about his wife.
My problem is that "De Ipola" gives me plenty of homonyms, so without any other names, I am hampered in this search.

- JULIA KLENK: I haven't found any corroborative element and it's quite a widespread name in German speaking countries. The fact that she has a German name doesn't prevent her from being of South American country.
But without age in 1976, no other background information, I am left without any solid clue.
I need a German speaker for digging into the Court cases about Argentina in Germany, as my knowledge of German amounts to zero.

- Antonio Misetich: okay, this case is particularly iffy. Scoring the database "desaparecidos.org", I haven't found him.
His employment history is unknown per the link. However, Argentina confirmed that he was detained in April 1976 to the IAHRC, but in November 1976, Argentina said that he was not registered: Human Rights and the Phenomenon of Disappearances
Found a declassified document in 2019 about him: The National Security Archive
He is a disappeared, but AFAIK, the US was not exactly known to bring disappeared in the US to kill them. They were killed in Argentina.
And yes, the US did kill disappeared: Inside Argentina’s Killing Machine: U.S. Intelligence Documents Record Gruesome Human Rights Crimes of 1976-1983 | National Security Archive
I can not find a photo of him.
His case is very iffy. No independent finding to corroborate the fact that he is a disappeared, shape or form. I'm waiting for Abuelas de Plaza de Mayo's reply to shed the light.

- Luis Itarruga Casali: released in December 1976 per this cable dated 1977 Cable: 1977BUENOS05592_c (I know, Wikileaks. But I haven't found anything else so far)
He is absent in the list: Presentes en Argentina: Muro de la Memoria
As he was released in December 1976, he was detained when our JD were found.
I haven't found any corroborative data to support his actual release.

- RICARDO ALBERTO HINRICHSEN: His name is so common in Latin America that I haven't found any corroborating data.
He is absent of the website "Desaparecidos.org" and I haven't found any element supporting his expulsion.
Per this cable Cable: 1977BUENOS05592_c he has been deported. However, I haven't found independent data to corroborate this information.
I can't trust the declassified documents to corroborate a deportation, as the CONADEP found that the Argentina regime falsified documents to make believe that the disappeared has left the country when it's not true. So, for this person, I can't rule in nor rule out because of no independent corroborating data.

- MANUELA ELMINA SANTUCHO: She is said "Under review". Another cable about her: The National Security Archive
She is a disappeared, but I have no independent data to support the fact that she is actually a disappeared.

- DR. MARIO SCHRAIER: I have found nothing beyond the cable I am scouring. Something I didn't expect, as because being called "Doctor" in Argentina in those days means that you are highly educated and hold a respectable position.
So, I have no element to rule him out, but unlikely him.
Possible spelling mistake? I'll revisit him today to be sure that I haven't missed anything.

- MARIA PEREZ BRAVO: I found a Cuban homonyme, which can't be disappeared from Argentina Marta María Pérez Bravo - Wikipedia
The Cuban artist can not be our lady because she is alive.
You have to completely disregard the Cuban artist, she has not been involved in Argentina or Condor operation, shape or form.
The person told in the cable is another person whom I have not found a thing linked to Argentina, Uruguay, Chile or any country linked to Argentina Dirty War AFAIK. It needs a deeper digging to know the truth.

- GERARDO BATTI ATUNA: except this cable, I found absolutely nothing about him. He is nowhere listed as a disappeared.
I suspect homonyms and/or spelling mistake by the US services.

- RAIMUNDO NACHUMOW: found homonyms, so I am not sure about him at all.
I found possible elements making it possible to be him, but I can not display them unless and until I have more probative evidence.


It makes a shorter list, but more complicated to rule them in or out.
 
No answer yet from the association Abuelas de Plaza de Mayo.
The Covid crisis + the current trials for crimes commited during the Dirty War = I perfectly understand that they have much bigger fishes to fry.
So, it's urgent waiting as we say in France!

Meanwhile, I'll try to know more about the Chili disappeared "Jamás Notificados" through Chilean associations.
 
Giuc0 said:
Thank you for your ideas

I clearly wonder why I venture myself to complicated path when your simpler explanations do a better job.
I have no explanation to offer.
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I appreciate all the hard work you have put into these posts, although I have to admit that I haven't had time to read them all. It's a lot of information to process. The South American angle is still a possibility in this case. There's lots of possible scenarios both simple and complicated.
 
I've been thinking a lot about this case, particularly their clothing and jewelry. I'd love to see actual photos of the clothing like we have for the jewelry. The more I think about it, these items sound and appear very distinctive, but in context kind of aren't.

Much has been made about the Camel GT Sebring shirt worn by John Doe and whether or not he had any connection to said race or the auto racing world in general. I think it's just as likely that a friend or relative may have attended the races and merely brought him back a shirt as a souvenir or lent it him. As for why no one came forward recognizing the shirt as a gift, we've all let someone borrow something or given them a gift and totally forgotten doing so or what the item was. Something like this could easily have happened. Same with the watch and ring. And to be fair, aside from the writing on the shirt, his whole outfit is literally just a T-shirt and jeans which could easily be worn today. Nothing terribly distinctive.

Jane Doe's clothing is likewise fairly nondescript. I live in Florida and it's 94 degrees out right now. I guarantee you I can walk around town and find more than a few young women dressed similarly. As for her jewelry, Navajo and southwestern jewelry were HUGELY popular in the 70s and apart from perhaps drawing a few compliments from strangers, I don't think they would have been hugely memorable or uncommon. A simple Google image search for 70s Navajo feather rings gives you a plethora very similar pieces to Jane's, although I've yet to find an identical one. I actually have a coral and turquoise ring (albeit a man's ring). Her shoes were noteworthy not so much for the actual style in my mind, but because they're so obviously not conducive to walking on dirt roads or hitchhiking.

Even though we all want these people identified, I think it's also important to remember that not every single little detail is the smoking gun, so to speak. Not every detail is super relevant in the grand scheme of things. Sometimes a ring and sandals are simply that and nothing more.

And I also agree with the user who think the David Batson story sounds like it could have been made up after the fact for attention.
 
Bobby88 said:
Her shoes were noteworthy not so much for the actual style in my mind, but because they're so obviously not conducive to walking on dirt roads or hitchhiking.
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Is there a picture of her actual shoes anywhere? (Not asking you in particular, Bobby.)

I used to hitchhike in 70's style wedges and they were super comfortable, nothing like heels or those dainty cute reference ones on Sumter Doe's wikipage.
I don't know though.
 
Yes, that picture on Wikipedia is not at all like what has been described. They're more of something you'd wear to a formal occasion like a wedding. I picture Jane's shoes as the more stereotypical 70s platform sandal like these:
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...or, given the different color straps, like these.
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I'm sure there have to be a few unreleased photos in the case file showing what they wore, as well as a lot more photos of the victims and the crime scene in general. I always thought it was weird that every single photo of Jock looks very different. Jane's are all basically the same. I always thought the one sketch of her with the wing hairstyle looked like Susan Lucci from All My Children.

I'd be interested in knowing whether or not the clothes and jewelry were ever kept in evidence and if they still exist in their file. When the couples were put in the glass lid coffins, I wonder if the funeral parlor redressed them in their original clothes (which sadly most likely means that they were buried with them on and they no longer exist) to help jog someone's memory or if the bodies were just covered with a sheet or something with only the faces visible.

Unfortunately, I have a feeling that the clothes were just thrown away like Jock's teeth. I'm convinced that had the teeth been kept and studied, they (or at least he) probably would have been identified a long time ago.

FWIW, I also can't find a ring anywhere online that's identical to Jock's star sapphire.
 
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