Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #24

[reddress58]

WRAL got something else wrong: "He also told investigators he and Nancy Cooper had been arguing the Friday before she went missing about her being paid for helping a friend paint her house."

The only thing the SW states is that "Cary Police personnel learned" that the couple had been aruguing throughout the course of the day over Nancy's painting. Doesn't say that BRAD told them. Another example of why we need to read these documents for ourselves.

 

[jmflu]

I am going to guess SH on this one.

Someone had said the media was keeping it secret. Does that seem plausible, given that they were the ones rallying to get the darn things unsealed?!

 

[sunflowers]

Looking :crazy:

thanks:crazy:

 

[raisincharlie]

Someone had said the media was keeping it secret. Does that seem plausible, given that they were the ones rallying to get the darn things unsealed?!

I have seen this done before, on several occasions. While the media may want something, they have enough sense to also know when too much is too much. Despite all the media haters, they are not going to do anything to jeopardize an investigation. It happens, they want to keep their sources - they have to give something back.

The way to find out is go to the courthouse and ask for a copy of the warrant. If it is released you will have it - if it remains sealed, you will know it. The media is ignoring it for a reason.

 

[momto3kids]

I've always suspected that his MBA student affair was with the young lady who has the long, crimped hair. Crimped, as in with a crimper. The one he has photos of beside him in the little kitchen party in France, and remember, he said that he and several others arrived in France earlier than the others and had a great time. I remember when I first suggested that she was probably the "one", and some of the WS posters jumped on me for that. Hmpfh. We shall see. We shall see.

Also, he rode to the boat show in Greenville with several other people in someone else's SUV.

Vomit can be brownish green veg. matter. So can grass, dead plant material. When a person dies, their body expels different fluids, if you know what I mean.

The vacuum cleaner can tell a story. I hope he used a vacuum at home and didn't think to empty the bag. Even if he did empty the bag or cup, there could still be residue on the vacuum parts.

Tending to the kid(s) at 4 AM? Were the children wakened by the loud fighting of the parents? Maybe he had to keep them in their room so they would not see something.

And, I'm really amused by Brad Cooper's night and morning of cleaning and laundry. Ha ha. Really funny there. And here's a guy who sleeps on poot-stained sheets :shakehead: and never washes them. Hmmm. (who knows what other kinds of stains, too...won't go there)

I have read so much I am hoping I don't have this wrong, but it his MBA affair was with someone who went to the boat show in Greenville with him.

The affair in Europe was with someone business related...like possible Cisco person?

I will have to search where I read this. It still can be one of the girls in the France photo, but I just remember reading this in one of the several affidavits.

 

[ncnative]

I'm thinking about that green dress and the high heeled shoes seized in the search.

I wonder if it could have belonged to a mystery woman who may have been in the house while Nancy was still at the party? Or, Brad could have stashed it somewhere for a little fetish fun if it were from a mystery woman. And then, it could have been Nancy's, but I want to know why they chose that?

Do they ever interview the children to see what they know or saw?

I saw BC's car in the drive today around 3 PM or so. He must be practicing for living in close confinement with his blinds closed, cooped up in that house. His confines may be smaller soon. Wonder where Mamma is?

Brad's flimsy excuse about cleaning house because Nancy and he had talked about how dirty it was--like he was suddenly going to start turning a new leaf? I'd be asking those children of his about what Daddy did today? And what did Daddy or Mommy do last night? :argue::rage::scream::soldier:
Were mommy and daddy having fun? Noisy? etc. Don't they have social services people who can do this?

 

[ncnative]

Brad's affidavit spoke of his riding to the boat show (an MBA group project) with the owner of the SUV they rode in, as well as someone else. I think he meant that there were 3 of them in that car. Don't you wanna bet it was Miss MBA France trip lady? I don't know. I bet we'll eventually find out.

I'd find it for you, but have to go now.

 

[ncnative]

I've been thinking about the hair taken from the two front bumper areas of the BMW 320i. Now, that's a weird place to find hair. I wonder if Nancy was in the garage where he kept the white BMW of his. Maybe he was attacking her and she tried to crawl under it? But then he'd just try to run her over, or leave the car on and lock her in there to die of carbon monoxide poisoning. Just a thought. We are allowed "what-if's".:waitasec:

 

[chauncey7381]

I'm interested in hearing from the 'fence-sitters' in this case and if the info released today gets you any closer to deciding one way or the other?

Sorry to disappoint, but I still remain on the fence. It's still a case of he said/friends said/family said.


Items seized from the house. The green dress, the green plastic, trace tape and pillow are of significant interest to me. If, and if, fibers from these items were found on certain areas of her body, i.e. nose, mouth, wrists, face, ankles, and they match sources taken from the house....then someone will have to explain how it got there. It's obvious they've found a good bit of fibers on her body.

 

[Skittles]

If I were him (BC) and I saw the variety of possible evidence that was cataloged and taken out (plus of course there's more that we don't know about), I'd be crapping my pants by now. Seriously. He thought he did a great job at cleaning up...but the act of cleaning up for 4+ hours is hinky in and of itself.

Brad has know about these for a while. LE left a copy of the inventory in the home.

 

[SleuthyGal]

Sorry to disappoint, but I still remain on the fence. It's still a case of he said/friends said/family said.


Items seized from the house. The green dress, the green plastic, trace tape and pillow are of significant interest to me. If, and if, fibers from these items were found on certain areas of her body, i.e. nose, mouth, wrists, face, ankles, and they match sources taken from the house....then someone will have to explain how it got there. It's obvious they've found a good bit of fibers on her body.

What do you think about scratches and red marks observed on the back of his neck? And the 4+ hours of cleaning?

 

[SleuthyGal]

Brad has know about these for a while. LE left a copy of the inventory in the home.

Did he know about how they observed the scratches on his neck? I wonder if he saw their affidavits.

And of course he didn't know what they had taken from his office at Cisco nor, possibly, from this 3rd place/person that we don't know about yet.

 

[Roy23]

What do you think about scratches and red marks observed on the back of his neck? And the 4+ hours of cleaning?

I think it certainly is evidence but it doesn't prove the case. Don't get me wrong, it is powerful stuff but they have to connect the body to either the house, car or Brad. In the SW, they say the marks are really small. I think it was just a way to show probable cause to get the SW's. In the end, they either have a whole lot more or will get it. And he will go to jail or kill himself first.

 

[jilly]

I wondered about that too, Mom. "Attached" makes it sound like the master, but the wording makes it sound like it is the girls' room. If that's the case, the bedding and the item of children's clothing seized bothers me a lot. Was NC attacked in there?

Also, re: BC being up at 4 to "attend to the 2 year old." I know my 2 year old is only up at 4 if she's sick or something wakes her up. Did something wake up Katie? If this were a normal waking up, you would think one parent would tend to her and one would go back to sleep. No?

I feel SO AWFUL for those 2 little girls.

Brad is the last person I would expect to be up with his children at 4am. Besides, according to affidavits, Nancy slept in the same room as the children so Brad wouldn't need to get up. I don't know that he was all that in tune with the children (just from reading about Nancy reprimanding him about "signals")
In any event, when a child needs to be attended to at 4am, the child usually wants the primary caregiver, in my experience the mom.

I just don't get the feel for him being a hands-on Dad. I bet you're right Daphne, I'll bet the child was woken up... and scared.

ETA Having said all this, often, when these guys like Brad give statements, bits and pieces of it are true. So the part about the child needing attention could have happened after she was awakened. Very possible that it was Brad who had to tend to her because Nancy was 'unable'. Kinda like Cassidy Young, Michelle Young's daughter.

 

[Roy23]

They are ignoring it no doubt. If you go up to the legal documents it is clear when the DA's office made their motion to reseal the warrants - they were addressing all three - the 16/17 residence, the 21 Cisco, and the 25 undisclosed location. Yet today we hear of three warrants - one of which relates only to the hard drives for digital and astral data- someone is being tricky IMO. But I will say there may be an extremely good reason for it.

Oh Yeah. What is this about LE's reasoning that NC was thought to be still alive when departing her house? I wonder what this is about if that is factual.

 

[Zoe]

Did he know about how they observed the scratches on his neck? I wonder if he saw their affidavits.

And of course he didn't know what they had taken from his office at Cisco nor, possibly, from this 3rd place/person that we don't know about yet.

i believe i read somewhere this afternoon that a LE officer questioned BC about those scratches but BC did not provide an answer. i'll see if i can find it.


ETA: it's on page 4 of the probable cause affidavit

 

[Roy23]

i believe i read somewhere this afternoon that a LE officer questioned BC about those scratches but BC did not provide an answer. i'll see if i can find it.

That is true. Brad did not give an explanation.

 

[Skittles]

Did he know about how they observed the scratches on his neck? I wonder if he saw their affidavits.

I don't know. But I'm sure somebody around here does!

And of course he didn't know what they had taken from his office at Cisco nor, possibly, from this 3rd place/person that we don't know about yet.

Right. He probably could guess they'd take computer equipment, but he wouldn't know about the rest.

 

[DogWood]

Kurtz & Blum Sept. 2, 2008, statement

"Three search warrants related to the Nancy Cooper case were released this afternoon. This has been widely reported as a meaningful development. The release of these search warrants makes public the state of the police investigation as it was some six weeks ago. They contain nothing new and shed no light on who killed Nancy Cooper.

Three search warrants related to the Nancy Cooper case were released this afternoon. This has been widely reported as a meaningful development. The release of these search warrants makes public the state of the police investigation as it was some six weeks ago. They contain nothing new and shed no light on who killed Nancy Cooper.

In any homicide investigation, an important early step is to check into the people who surround the victim. As Nancy's husband, the Cary police rightly scrutinized Brad Cooper at the beginning of their inquiry. Spouses, other romantic entanglement, friends and associates are among the first people an investigator must seek to rule out as suspects. Since that time, warrants were served, searches were conducted and items were collected and presumably studied in-depth to determine if they held any evidentiary value. The police investigation has also had access to information received as a result of the extensive cooperation that Brad Cooper has given and continues to offer. Despite all of this, the police have made no arrest and named no suspects. Had substantial, credible evidence pointed to Brad Cooper, he would be in custody.

We fervently hope the efforts of the police will allow them, very soon, to arrest the criminal or criminals who committed the heinous attack on Nancy and to bring peace and closure to the Cooper family. We ask again that anyone with information that might assist in the identification and capture of Nancy's murderer or murderers, please give that information to the Cary police. If you are uncomfortable going directly to the police, you can instead contact us at www.kurtzandblum.com through our Nancy Cooper investigation page. To date, we have turned over to the police all information received through this site; we intend to continue this cooperation. Keeping your information to yourself helps n one. If you know anything that could be helpful in solving this case, please bring it to light as soon as possible.

Howard Kurtz
Seth Blum



http://www.wral.com/news/local/page/3472448/

 

[Zoe]

IMHO he has so screwed himself.

- multiple/conflicting timelines and lies
- up at 4am and constantly busy through 1pm CLEANING
- BOTH parents 'doing laundry' early Sat. morning?
- cleans only the trunk of his car but not anything else
- Hair in his trunk, possibly Nancy's. Also in the tire wells.
- Green/brown vegetable type thing either in or on his sedan (wasn't specified).
- scratches on the back of his neck the MORNING HIS WIFE GOES MISSING & IS NEVER SEEN ALIVE AGAIN (btw, witnesses from the party will likely be able to say whether they saw those same scratches at the party, or not.)
- Says he didn't see her leave the house (assumed she left due to door slamming) but contradicts himself and says he last saw her 'doing laundry, wearing a white t-shirt, and taking care of Katie')
- actions/activities that he never did before, at times he never did them before

Yep, screwed. Six ways to Sunday, IMHO.

well said, sleuthygal.