Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #25

[SleuthyGal]

It's not about offending per se (although some might feel offended)...it's that it is an issue that can quickly derail a thread and head into areas that have nothing to do with the case being discussed, and therefore if there's interest in pursuing a discussion, it makes sense that it have it's own thread so people who want to participate in that subject can, and those who are not interested, don't have to scroll. I would suggest a separate thread for ANY topic that seems to have legs of its own and is garnering discussion.

 

[jmflu]

It's not about offending per se (although some might feel offended)...it's that it is an issue that can quickly derail a thread and head into areas that have nothing to do with the case being discussed, and therefore if there's interest in pursuing a discussion, it makes sense that it have it's own thread so people who want to participate in that subject can, and those who are not interested, don't have to scroll.

I understand that, for sure. I don't want to derail a thread OR even start one on that subject for fear it will disintigrate quickly with everyone's differing beliefs. I don't want to see otherwise friendly posters become judgemental towards each other.

On another note/ topic... didn't Mom say at one point that she had heard there was some physical damage to one side of NC's face? If so, I wonder if that was the "darkness" they spoke of in the autopsy. I'm getting into unfamiliar territory here so you who have more knowledge will have to enlighten me.

 

[momto3kids]

Perhaps so.

But at the point that LE gets involved and starts investigating, it is no longer really about JA, regardless of what she wrote in her affidavit and regardless of her beliefs.

1. Marital discord has been established by Brad and others and is substantiated with paperwork.

2. If physical, behavioral and other evidence is leading the detectives to investigate the husband...well, that's pretty much standard protocol to start with those closest to the victim.

3. JA's 'sin,' if you will, was getting worried, calling Brad, and then calling 911 to ask what she should do. From there it was in the police's hands.

Something in her gut...her intuition...was telling her 'Danger, Will Robinson, Danger!' And she was right! A bit of divine intervention, don't you think?

I agree 100% the LE is not making this about JA and can see thru this chit. BC and his slime ball attorneys are trying to shift focus with this tatic with whoever they can find to single her out. They are trying to give her what they feel she deserves.
BC did this in his subpoena to the Adam's, now MH.

The media announcing NEW affidavits making the public want to read them, bingo, there we are now looking at accusations about JA.

To TRY to air out JA personal life when she is not the one to focus on shows BC is trying to get some focus off of himself. It's NOT working BC!

Can you imagaine being a close friend like JA was, calling the LE out of concern and part of the focus is being shifted to you by NO other than BC? I know it is not the LE doing this, but by the slime she is having to deal with.

 

[SleuthyGal]

Try as they might to shift focus, the police dept and the detectives and the other experts working on the investigation will keep following the evidence that THEY feel is providing answers. JA could have jumped up and down screaming "NO WAY HE DID IT!" and the police would still follow their own protocol and investigate things from the inside, out.

They can insinuate anything they want. The truth is she was worried, she called the police to ask what she should do, and the police decided to get involved right then and there. If there was no 'smoke,' LE would have cleared Brad by now. Their investigation is leading them down a path and they are following it. And you're right--they don't care about any Lochmere swinging lifestyle, cheating, or anything of the ilk, unless it specifically relates to the murder investigation.

 

[runr]

I am of the opinion that a small number of NC's friends were aware that NC planned to LEAVE BC that Sat. AM, and the ruse/story was that she had plans to paint at 8AM after "going for a run."

I think that her friends knew the whole plan and covered for her safety (and the children's) and that is why NC was like, "Whatever," when MH asked her the night before about BC playing tennis with him in the AM.

She intended to be gone by then with the kids, not "gone" as the events actually happened.

 

[momto3kids]

Hmm. First time I've seen such an endorsement. Usually one just suggests a separate thread. I obviously have offended if clapping is required!

You have not offended me, but it can be offensive to some.

IMO if it pertains to religion, race or sexual orientation it needs to be discussed seperately. These are 3 sensitive issues.

The debate was already beginning to get a tad heated, and can possibly get more heated.
If a debate of this nature is needed, I feel it could be done on a seperate thread.

 

[jmflu]

You have not offended me, but it can be offensive to some.

IMO if it pertains to religion, race or sexual orientation it needs to be discussed seperately. These are 3 sensitive issues.

The debate was already beginning to get a tad heated, and can possibly get more heated.
If a debate of this nature is needed, I feel it could be done on a seperate thread.

You are right. Agreed. :bang:

 

[jmflu]

I am of the opinion that a small number of NC's friends were aware that NC planned to LEAVE BC that Sat. AM, and the ruse/story was that she had plans to paint at 8AM after "going for a run."

I think that her friends knew the whole plan and covered for her safety (and the children's) and that is why NC was like, "Whatever," when MH asked her the night before about BC playing tennis with him in the AM.

She intended to be gone by then with the kids, not "gone" as the events actually happened.

Wow. First I've heard of this. Fascinating theory!

 

[raisincharlie]

I am of the opinion that a small number of NC's friends were aware that NC planned to LEAVE BC that Sat. AM, and the ruse/story was that she had plans to paint at 8AM after "going for a run."

I think that her friends knew the whole plan and covered for her safety (and the children's) and that is why NC was like, "Whatever," when MH asked her the night before about BC playing tennis with him in the AM.

She intended to be gone by then with the kids, not "gone" as the events actually happened.

I have a feeling you are right. I'm just not sure when Nancy was planning on leaving but would agree it was to be soon.

 

[jmflu]

I am of the opinion that a small number of NC's friends were aware that NC planned to LEAVE BC that Sat. AM, and the ruse/story was that she had plans to paint at 8AM after "going for a run."

I think that her friends knew the whole plan and covered for her safety (and the children's) and that is why NC was like, "Whatever," when MH asked her the night before about BC playing tennis with him in the AM.

She intended to be gone by then with the kids, not "gone" as the events actually happened.

Here's a question though... how would she get the kids out of the house? Did she usually take them with her to paint?

 

[SleuthyGal]

Here's a question though... how would she get the kids out of the house? Did she usually take them with her to paint?

She would have had the perfect built-in excuse "well since you have plans to play tennis, I'll just take the kids with me..."

 

[SleuthyGal]

I am of the opinion that a small number of NC's friends were aware that NC planned to LEAVE BC that Sat. AM, and the ruse/story was that she had plans to paint at 8AM after "going for a run."

VERY interesting runr! Thank you for sharing that.

 

[momto3kids]

Try as they might to shift focus, the police dept and the detectives and the other experts working on the investigation will keep following the evidence that THEY feel is providing answers. JA could have jumped up and down screaming "NO WAY HE DID IT!" and the police would still follow their own protocol and investigate things from the inside, out.

They can insinuate anything they want. The truth is she was worried, she called the police to ask what she should do, and the police decided to get involved right then and there. If there was no 'smoke,' LE would have cleared Brad by now. Their investigation is leading them down a path and they are following it. And you're right--they don't care about any Lochmere swinging lifestyle, cheating, or anything of the ilk, unless it specifically relates to the murder investigation.

Aside from the LE, lets take them out of this totally...I know they are not in the least concerned about JA. Maybe I should have worded something different a few posts back?

I am saying the slime ball is trying to tarnish JA reputation by public opinion. Wants to air JA personal life or insinuating it. Now neighbors, co-workers, family, etc looking at her possibly in a different light. We can see thru his smoke, but think of the ones who are NOT reading or staying up on the case. Yes, most people with common sense can see thru this, but there are also many who won't or can't.

Example...wow, this JA is trouble. Looks like JA has her own issues.
Now she is facing public opinion who know nothing except what the media is showing.

The WRAL site is a prime example of many BC supporters, and by bringing JA more to the surface he is gaining support by doing this.

Yes, the LE can see thru this, but there are some humans who can't.

 

[jmflu]

Aside from the LE, lets take them out of this totally...I know they are not in the least concerned about JA. Maybe I should have worded something different a few posts back?

I am saying the slime ball is trying to tarnish JA reputation by public opinion. Wants to air JA personal life or insinuating it. Now neighbors, co-workers, family, etc looking at her possibly in a different light. We can see thru his smoke, but think of the ones who are NOT reading or staying up on the case. Yes, most people with common sense can see thru this, but there are also many who won't or can't.

Example...wow, this JA is trouble. Looks like JA has her own issues.
Now she is facing public opinion who know nothing except what the media is showing.

The WRAL site is a prime example of many BC supporters, and by bringing JA more to the surface he is gaining support by doing this.

Yes, the LE can see thru this, but there are some humans who can't.

You are absolutely right. There were people on there who thought JA had something to do with the murder right off the bat just because she called so quickly!!! Insanity!!!

 

[SleuthyGal]

People are idiots. Okay not all people, but many. The truth will set her free. She did the right thing. And in the end, that's the most important thing (IMHO). The slime thrown on her will not forever stick.

 

[momto3kids]

You are absolutely right. There were people on there who thought JA had something to do with the murder right off the bat just because she called so quickly!!! Insanity!!!

As unfortunate as it is, BC wants to bring down JA down IMO.
I don't care about her personal life per se, but concerned to what she is being put thru for stepping up to the plate for her friend, and this is just beginning. What will she endure during a criminal trial?

How many times have we heard don't get involved? I :clap: her for doing what she did, I would do the same, but this is a prime example why so many don't. Look at the repercussions that come with it. So sad.

 

[jmflu]

People are idiots. Okay not all people, but many. The truth will set her free. She did the right thing. And in the end, that's the most important thing (IMHO). The slime thrown on her will not forever stick.

I hope not. And I hope the posters who are in the right come back and smoosh it in the idiots' faces!

 

[momto3kids]

People are idiots. Okay not all people, but many. The truth will set her free. She did the right thing. And in the end, that's the most important thing (IMHO). The slime thrown on her will not forever stick.

Slime stains! Ask me about cleaning white ceilings where my kids tossed it up in the air and it hit the ceiling. They got caught every time and wondered how...of course when they were younger trying to figure it out. :floorlaugh:

 

[ncnative]

Last night I confused "Cambridge" subdivision with Camden Forest. A few chastised me for this. Easy mistake. I apologized. Just want to make sure that others see it. I changed my posts to correct it.

 

[reddress58]

I am of the opinion that a small number of NC's friends were aware that NC planned to LEAVE BC that Sat. AM, and the ruse/story was that she had plans to paint at 8AM after "going for a run."

I think that her friends knew the whole plan and covered for her safety (and the children's) and that is why NC was like, "Whatever," when MH asked her the night before about BC playing tennis with him in the AM.

She intended to be gone by then with the kids, not "gone" as the events actually happened.

Runr, if you don't mind me asking, when you say "I am in the opinion of", do you mean you have heard this rumored? It sounds very possible to me, and BC discovering NC "packing" at 4am would very likely create the kind of rage that would lead to strangulation. The Interact supeona also fits in nicely with this. I am just curious if there may be a source for this thought or if you have just been pondering new theories. Either way, great addition to the discussion!