neesaki
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Dec 14, 2007
- Messages
- 16,064
- Reaction score
- 49,621
In college scandal, rowing was the ideal sport for stowaways, cheating
In college scandal, rowing was the ideal sport for stowaways, cheating, lies
So true - "But one pastime was particularly suited to Singer’s scheme. According to court documents, when it came to helping Giannulli and Loughlin, he turned to a sport with large rosters, little fan or media scrutiny, and wide latitude in recruiting female athletes — as well as one position that requires little physicality."
It is really sad that people, especially teenagers and younger people worship celebrities: so many of them are vapid, entitled empty vessels. They have beauty but sadly, twisted values-- they basically live in a sub-culture where they can pretty much do and say anything because it is acceptable in the hollywood setting. This scandal has pulled off the mask of respectability
of those involved, and revealed who they really are and it ain't pretty.
I really love rich, entitled people. They are absolutely fascinating to armchair diagnose while talking to them. Narcissism, sociopathy, grandiose speech, and they don't even have a clue about their pathological behavior. Beverly Hills is rife with people like this. Dealing with people who think they are royalty, and everyone else is a serf, is quite entertaining when you have the ability to cut down their self inflated egos. Then, they scramble to collect their attitude. And they realize the fact that they are not royalty.
Huffman is there. Waiting for Loughlin to fall.
What continually resonates with me is the fact that these parents refused to acknowledge that their children weren't smart enough to get into highly competitive colleges. It saddens me to think that parents are so disappointed in their offspring's abilities that they will go to extremes to avoid having others find out that their children couldn't get into these prestigious schools.
I thought it might be him as well. Below bolded by me.
Without his name the LA Times wrote this, "At the start of the new year, Singer sent Meredith, who had coached the Yale soccer team for more than two decades, a check for $400,000, drawn on the Key Worldwide Foundation charity account.
It was Meredith’s actions that led to the scam’s unraveling. Prosecutors say he solicited $450,000 from another parent, who had previously been charged with securities fraud and promptly gave up the coach’s offer, eventually wearing a concealed microphone during a payoff meeting with Meredith in April 2018. The coach ultimately told federal prosecutors of his deal with Singer.
Yale said in a statement that one of two students linked in court records to the scam was admitted and currently attends the university, while the other was denied entry." Mystery parent paid $6.5 million to get kids into top universities as part of admissions scandal
It just seems like a long way from 450K to 6.5 million. So then I thought we still have not "met" the 6.5 million dollar criminal.
ETA: I would love to see the 6.5 million winner's perp walk. Anxiously waiting.
I was thinking the same thing as you expressed in your post. I think parents like this are narcissistic, because what it really says is, that the way the parents see it, if their kids aren't smart enough to get into a highly competitive college, it reflects on them (the parents)---- so they cannot accept that they (the parents) have children that aren't as smart as they want their children to be, so they feel they ( the parents) must be lacking and they can't deal with that.
I think the kids are smart enough - but they haven't been educated enough. I get the vibe that they weren't spending their nights and weekends writing research papers or figuring out trig questions that would prepare them for the exams. Cut classes, probably...weren't serious students in high school, which meant the tests would be very difficult.
What are you doing to put on a college app if your grades are bad and test scores are low? Fake info, that's what.
Plus, there is the whole habit of paying people to do stuff you don't want to do. Laundry, cooking, applying to college = all the same boring type of task that someone else can be hired to do.
The scandal shows poor work ethic more than lack of ability, imo.
And it's not as if they're lazy. Looking good all the time takes work and lots of time. Their priority simply isn't on academics....but they want to LOOK like academics are so easy for them that they can get high scores while at the same time vlog, travel, hang out with pretty people.
jmo
I think it's more that the parents are worshiping the veneer of intelligence and accomplishment that a degree from an elite university gives. Almost as if it's the "must-have" designer outfit or the cool car.
It's just a status possession.
The quality of the education and the match of the educational experience to the child's talents or interests seems to have no value whatsoever. It's not as if they need the USC degree to continue on to become an architect, a physicist, a philosphy faculty member, a pediatric surgeon. Nothing like this. Few of the cheating scandal kids are expected to do anything but perform adequately in their social strata.
The families have some various expectations, but the Gianulli's is infuriating to me because part of it just seems to be Loughlin's legitimacy to fly USC flags at their house, to have USC license plates on their car, to attend USC functions. For Lori, it's all about HER, not even for her daughters. I do pity Olivia, who does seem to be caught in the middle. For all the shallowness and vapidity of her vlog site, it is something she has done and evidently done well in the world of shallowness and vapidity in which she orbits. She made no false claims and did have protestastions about the USC plan, but I'll bet she went along with it once her parents presented the social lubricant it would give her. And indeed, she was well on her way Spring Breaking on a billionaire's yacht.
But she really wanted to go to ASU, which IS known as a party school. Can you imagine the cocktail hour talk with Hollywood movers and shakers if asked where Olivia and Isabella were going to school. Once the word "Arizona State" was mentioned, there would be the most awkward icy pause in the conversation. The word would doom the Gianulli's to the kitchen gossip in their social circle. I think some parents could deal with this: " Oh Richy is unique, he just really wants to go to Arizona State and study desert wildlife." But Mossimo had already marched into the high school counselor and demanded his daughters were USC material. Whatever.
In my business, a degree from USC just engenders a big eye roll.
There is nothing magical about these children or these parents. They just have vast amounts of money. And as we continually see, the love of that money is the root of all evil. Even the evil you bring upon yourself, as these parents have.
I don't know that Huffman is there either. I think a talented publicist, crisis manager, or very smart friend is the one who recognized that and wrote an extremely on point, humble, and responsibility-taking statement for her to release! The only thing I can say with confidence about Huffman is that she was smart enough to find someone who nailed that statement and trust that it would hit the right tone.I don't know that Huffman is there. I think she's smarter than Loughlin and Mossimo. But she may also have better attorneys with better client control.
Anyone who would do this to begin with is a rat. And Huffman is one of the biggest hypocrites of them all as she has advocated publicly for educational equality. What? And then this?
(Loughlin is also a massive hypocrite by talking about the importance of her "faith" yet committing fraud).
This upsets me because my daughter busted her butt through her school career and then unto college and now on to grad. School. While these other kids buy their way in.without doing the work that is needed to secure the spot. I am disgusted.I hope that each kid that was admitted through this scheme, is kicked out. If they are allowed to attend, then the college is just as guilty as the parents are.
Once this scheme came to light, the students do not have the right or privilege of continuing in their chosen university. More than likely, 95% of the students were aware of what their parents had done to get them accepted.
The students carried no shame - the parents have always made sure their child had whatever they wanted.
My opinion only.
And don't forget! Not just any yacht:
The yacht of Rick Caruso, the chairman of USC's Board of Trustees.
This upsets me because my daughter busted her butt through her school career and then unto college and now on to grad. School. While these other kids buy their way in.without doing the work that is needed to secure the spot. I am disgusted.
And this is EXACTLY why the Gianullis wanted their kids in USC.
Both Lori and Mossimo want to be the ones schmoozing with billionaire Rick Caruso, and all his other influential friends who can introduce them to a new level of social elite. Whether it was to keep pushing Olivia's vlog site to market more and more products to that lucrative market, or for their own self-identification to breath that yacht's rarified air.
The Gianullis are worth about $100 million ($50 million in some other estimates). They well know that Kylie Jenner's influencer and marketing position has made her a billionaire. I am quite sure that preys on the minds of the Gianullis. ASU would not offer OJ (or parents) anywhere near as much interaction with very influential people who could help promote her vlog /influencer business much closer to the stratospheric one of Jenner. It was never about what OJ wanted, it was always about what her parents wanted
So (IMHO) not only were the Gianullis trying to promote their children into a prestigious school, they were trying to promote themselves into an even higher stratum of wealth.
But now that vision of Xanadu is falling to pieces. Pleading guilty to money-laundering and fraud, ending in a prison sentence will not bring back the billionaire and their yachts. Martha Stewart may have recovered, but she had a lot more personal resources and her brand was not substantially damaged.
Lori's brand has already been trashed. She isn't going to go back as the star and producer of sweetie pie Hallmark movies. And she's likely trashed the rising career of OJ, too.
View attachment 179528
Yes. As every parent of a child who worked hard to get in should! It's terrible. Read this language from the complaint. It's sick:
Singer capitalized on the "business transaction" model of college admissions. In education, we have moved toward outcomes based results which produces this kind of thinking. Mr. Giannulli went into his daughters college counselor and basically was threatening her. Isn't it interesting that the school did not state outright that this student was not on a crew team? As an elite private school, they didn't want to make waves and risk losing a parent donation or the stats of one more student accepted to a highly desirable school or jeopardize the next year's applicant pool by being seen by USC as a problematic school. They kept quiet. You don't last long as a Director of College Counseling or as a College Counselor at an elite school if you don't have good stats of your grads getting into the desired schools.
IMO There is no way that Singer is the only college "fixer" out there. Similar "side door" schemes must exist elsewhere. Heck, there may be others "consulting" wealthy desperate parents to find a way in, and it's possible they have never heard of Singer. Until now. Great minds think alike.
Singer capitalized on the "business transaction" model of college admissions. In education, we have moved toward outcomes based results which produces this kind of thinking. Mr. Giannulli went into his daughters college counselor and basically was threatening her. Isn't it interesting that the school did not state outright that this student was not on a crew team? As an elite private school, they didn't want to make waves and risk losing a parent donation or the stats of one more student accepted to a highly desirable school or jeopardize the next year's applicant pool by being seen by USC as a problematic school. They kept quiet. You don't last long as a Director of College Counseling or as a College Counselor at an elite school if you don't have good stats of your grads getting into the desired schools.