NC NC - Asha Degree, 9, Shelby, 14 Feb 2000 #2

[scottishwildcat]

they just have clear dna from the daughter that was in ashas bag. time for polygraphs.

This is such a good point. Underhills dna was just on the outside of the black bag the bookbag was wrapped in - maybe he was asked to dump it. But there has to be a really good reason the youngest daughters dna was on ashas undershirt.

 

[Dotta]

"Newly-released search warrants offer disturbing details of Asha Degree's final moments -
as the nine-year-old was allegedly 'pulled into' a car before vanishing in 2000."

Key detail about 9-year-old Asha Degree's 2000 disappearance revealed

Newly-released search warrants offer disturbing details of what are believed to be nine-year-old Asha Degree's final moments after she disappeared in 2000.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[IDK]

Hairs can also be secondary transfer from someone else in a household, similar to the LISK serial killer case. IMO.

 

[dotr]

Sep 18 '24

'Why did it happen?' | Asha Degree's great uncle says he's had unanswered questions for 24 years

Asha Degree's great-uncle says he had no idea he lived near the two people now named as suspects in her disappearance.

www.wcnc.com

''Willie Key, Asha Degree's great uncle, spoke with WCNC Charlotte about the case and says he's had unanswered questions for 24 years.
"That stayed with me all the time... Would we ever find out the real truth?" Key said. "Why did it happen?"
Two suspects are listed in the search warrants, Roy Dedmon and Connie Dedmon.
Key says his family has no association with the Dedmons, which is also stated in the search warrants.
"I've been out here all my life and I didn't even know the Dedmons lived there," Key said''

Sep 17, 2024
WCNC Charlotte's Myles Harris breaks down the who's who of the people named in the Asha Degree case search warrants.

 

[lonewanderer]

This is such a good point. Underhills dna was just on the outside of the black bag the bookbag was wrapped in - maybe he was asked to dump it. But there has to be a really good reason the youngest daughters dna was on ashas undershirt.

Hairs can also be secondary transfer from someone else in a household, similar to the LISK serial killer case. IMO.

The youngest daughter (to be sure) at least shed one strand of hair in that car, right? I think that is most likely how the hair got onto Asha's undershirt.

It would be interesting to know more about the book that was found in Asha's bag that didn't belong to her. Where did the younger daughters go to school?

 

[lonewanderer]

It seems they have enough property to hide a car for twenty five years. Maybe they thought it was easier to hide any evidence, rather than throw it out and take the chance that it somehow traces back to them? They clearly don’t think like normal people, so who knows what their thought process was

I am beginning to think they were more like hoarders.

I can't imagine any reason to hold onto something like a garbage bag for 24 years.

Either they collected trophies, were hoarders, or both.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

JMO I think some confusion is happening here and maybe instead if writing "the family," we could write either "the Dedmon family" or "Asha's family/Degree family."

Or instead of "the parents,"
"Asha's parents" or "Dedmon parents" (since there has been speculation about what the Dedmon teenagers-back-then did or knew).

Here's hoping someone from the Dedmon family will reveal what happened, if they know. Asha's family has suffered so much.

 

[sunflowermomma]

Do we have a sense how much active traffic there was on the road Asha travelled? There were multiple sightings of her. If there had been an accident, wouldn't there have been at least a few witnesses? My opinion only at this point - the perpetrator is an adult male associated with/ in the Dedmon family.

There is a Youtube video from a reporter from sometime in the last ~3 years where the reporter walks the exact route Asha took and shows the visibility during day and night. I'm trying to find it but there's so much activity right now it's buried.

 

[lonewanderer]

So all these items were sitting in the empty home for 24 years ?

It sounds like regular things that would be in home from that era….
Only thing standing out is the green car that was mentioned.

But that’s a lot of evidence
I hope it turns into something..
<modsnip>

News channel WBTV made these lists of the cops took in the searches

From this property, law enforcement seized a variety of items, including:

• Computers
• Laptops
• Several cellphones, including flip phones
• Cameras
• Human tooth in a Ziploc bag
• Smart watch
• VHS tapes
• SD card
• Notebooks

Roy Dedmon also had a DNA sample taken from him while the search was underway.

Roy Dedmon’s home was first searched by a drone in February.

That home is where Roy and Connie Dedmon are believed to have lived with their children when Degree disappeared in 2000.

The following items were seized from the second home:

• Green AMC Rambler
• .22 caliber rifle
• Black trash bag
• Cellphone
• Documents containing the name “Roy Underhill,” a man also named in the warrants
• Disposable cameras
• Film
• VHS tapes
• Journals written in by Roy Dedmon’s daughters
• Carhartt jeans
• Children’s clothing
• More documents

Police took the following items from the rest home:

• Documents about Underhill’s case
• A photo
• Earrings
• Gray Jaguar

and course the green car too.

hope they solve the case.

I find it very, highly, EXTREMELY particularly unusual that black trash bags from 24 years ago are being seized as evidence today......

 

[dotr]

There is a Youtube video from a reporter from sometime in the last ~3 years where the reporter walks the exact route Asha took and shows the visibility during day and night. I'm trying to find it but there's so much activity right now it's buried.

This one?

Feb 14, 2020 SHELBY
20 years ago today, Asha Degree disappeared...never to be seen or heard from again. Our host, Saran Almond, went to the location where a 9 year old Asha Degree was last reported to be seen, at the approximate time she was reported to have left her home, and along the route she was seen walking according to police...and walked the route. In addition to the dark, imagine what Asha may have felt in the cold, in the rain, unprotected from the elements, during a power outage, walking down a two lane highway in the early morning hours between 2:30 and 4am...alone.

 

[sunflowermomma]

This one?

Feb 14, 2020 SHELBY
20 years ago today, Asha Degree disappeared...never to be seen or heard from again. Our host, Saran Almond, went to the location where a 9 year old Asha Degree was last reported to be seen, at the approximate time she was reported to have left her home, and along the route she was seen walking according to police...and walked the route. In addition to the dark, imagine what Asha may have felt in the cold, in the rain, unprotected from the elements, during a power outage, walking down a two lane highway in the early morning hours between 2:30 and 4am...alone.

Yes! Thank you so much! I swear there was a daytime portion but perhaps that was a podcaster.

 

[MysteryMaven]

I am beginning to think they were more like hoarders.

I can't imagine any reason to hold onto something like a garbage bag for 24 years.

Either they collected trophies, were hoarders, or both.

I read that Roy is a hoarder. Also the trash bags people are talking about are the bags the backpack was buried in.
ETA nope I’m wrong a trash bag from the property was taken as evidence.

 

[EphemerallyAya]

I find it very, highly, EXTREMELY particularly unusual that black trash bags from 24 years ago are being seized as evidence today......

My guess would be that the trash bags are newer, the contents possibly 24 years old. That or they want dna from something inside? Or more of a longshot, the trash bag was stored in the vehicle previously. I find a 24yo trash bag far fetched too, but panic disposal of evidence might not be.

Moo

 

[lonewanderer]

My guess would be that the trash bags are newer, the contents possibly 24 years old. That or they want dna from something inside? Or more of a longshot, the trash bag was stored in the vehicle previously. I find a 24yo trash bag far fetched too, but panic disposal of evidence might not be.

Moo

I do wonder what the context of it all is.

Was this just a storage unit? A small part in a house? A very large farmhouse type place where this could all be basically shoved into the corner and forgotten about?

Also, what other context is there? Was this building or place often visited or maintained? It was this a perfect place for a less responsible “set it and forget it” type of criminal? Possibly someone who knew this place was never visited so it would be perfect to not try very hard and just dump everything in, knowing it was likely never to be seen or visited.

 

[Quill]

The youngest daughter (to be sure) at least shed one strand of hair in that car, right? I think that is most likely how the hair got onto Asha's undershirt.

It would be interesting to know more about the book that was found in Asha's bag that didn't belong to her. Where did the younger daughters go to school?

Either that or the NKOTB nightshirt was actually the younger Dedmon girl's at some point.
*Edited for clarification.

 

[MangoCove]

It would be interesting to know more about the book that was found in Asha's bag that didn't belong to her. Where did the younger daughters go to school?

Roy was the headmaster at Twelve Oaks Academy, a private segregationist school. I am guessing that his daughters went to school there.

 

[fidgeypie]

Roy was the headmaster at Twelve Oaks Academy, a private segregationist school. I am guessing that his daughters went to school there.

What is a segregation School please?

 

[dotr]

Study finds North Carolina public schools are growing more segregated

North Carolina public schools are becoming more segregated by race, even as the overall student population is becoming more racially diverse. This trend comes as students of color now make up the majority of public school students.

www.wunc.org

2024
'A new study by N.C. State University researchers has found that North Carolina public schools are becoming more segregated by race, even as the overall student population becomes more racially diverse.

If your child is white, Black or Asian, they are more likely to attend a school where their own race is over-represented compared to the total state population. This trend comes at the same time that students of color now make up the majority of public school students.'

 

[Shamrock1]

What is a segregation School please?

A segregationist school is a Southern private school established in response to the desegregation of public schools. It’s a specific term of art that should not be confused with the idea of segregated schools generally: Segregation academy - Wikipedia

Also, noting that Twelve Oaks was a segregationist school:
- Article clipped from The Charlotte Observer

- EX-TAX OFFICIALS ASSAIL SHIFT ON SCHOOL EXEMPTION STATUS (Published 1982)

 

[Proud Country Gal]

He was a Vietnam veteran and seemed to have substance use issues - he was only 56 when he passed. Has his autopsy report been posted here yet? He said he thought someone was trying to kill him before he died and he was found with no injuries but blood coming out of his nose.

I am inclined to think that Underhill's DNA was trace DNA

He died of a injury......
Notes Work Injury: Injury did not occur at work, Disposition: Cremation in-state, Autopsy: Autopsy Performed, Attendant: Medical Examiner, Findings: Autopsy findings were not considered in determining cause of death, Hospital Status: Residence