GUILTY NC - Jameson 'Jamie' Hahn, 29, stabbed to death, Raleigh, 22 April 201

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Boodles, you couldn't have said it better. To me this attorney is simply an egotistical, self serving human being that is a total embarrassment to the legal community of Wake County. Quite honestly, this is more about him being on stage and sounding like a wiz-bang lawyer than trying to represent his client. JMO
 
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Boodles said:
(Bolded by me.) Not to me! As a matter of fact, he has droned along rehashing every bit of minutia to the point no one's probably listening, except you, apparently! He never makes a point. I think the defense attorney has mental issues, and probably significant performance issues at work. (I'm not joking.) It's really quite unfortunate, and I wouldn't be surprised if this def atty is asked to retire after this trial. This is ridiculous, bizarre and wasting everyone's time. IMO.
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I've thought the same thing -- I feel sure that ADA Faucette won't make a complaint, but he might have a comment if the Defender's Office asked him something specific. I don't know if the Judge can make a comment -- they are usually quite circumspect -- their offices are on the ballot in NC counties; they are elected. But there has got to be some avenue for raising a question about any officer of the Court. Folks get senile, or sick, or depressed, off their meds (seriously), etc. I have no idea how it works.

I have tried to find out additional info on Arbour and have had no luck. I wonder if he was ever in private practice here.
 
borndem said:
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I've thought the same thing -- I feel sure that ADA Faucette won't make a complaint, but he might have a comment if the Defender's Office asked him something specific. I don't know if the Judge can make a comment -- they are usually quite circumspect -- their offices are on the ballot in NC counties; they are elected. But there has got to be some avenue for raising a question about any officer of the Court. Folks get senile, or sick, or depressed, off their meds (seriously), etc. I have no idea how it works.

I have tried to find out additional info on Arbour and have had no luck. I wonder if he was ever in private practice here.
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I couldn't find anything on him either. I wish we could find some info on some of his previous trials.
I'd just like to know what others in the legal community think/thought of him. I'm also curious as to if this style of questioning is the norm for him.
 
So this is the big story in my neck of the woods these last couple of weeks. Jon Broyhill, best man at the victim's wedding, is accused of premeditated murder of the victim, Jamie Hahn, and attempted murder of the husband. This story got tremendous press at the time the murder happened and there have been live feeds of the trial on our local news websites. I've watched some of it and read all of the articles. There is something about this case that still doesn't make sense to me. Like I feel like we are missing a vital piece of information. Are any of you familiar with it?

For one thing, the defendant apparently lied about multiple serious illnesses and had friends, including the couple, take him to doctors' appointments. He stayed with them after he told them he had gallbladder surgery, which he didn't have. I guess I don't understand how he could have fooled so many people about so many things.

http://www.wral.com/political-strategist-dies-after-stabbing-in-raleigh-home/12374484/

http://www.wral.com/-he-s-trying-to-kill-me-slain-strategist-s-husband-recalls-of-stabbing/14504266/

http://www.wral.com/broyhill-s-lies-went-beyond-cancer-tale-detective-testifies/14510354/
 
Doghairrules said:
So this is the big story in my neck of the woods these last couple of weeks. Jon Broyhill, best man at the victim's wedding, is accused of premeditated murder of the victim, Jamie Hahn, and attempted murder of the husband. This story got tremendous press at the time the murder happened and there have been live feeds of the trial on our local news websites. I've watched some of it and read all of the articles. There is something about this case that still doesn't make sense to me. Like I feel like we are missing a vital piece of information. Are any of you familiar with it?

For one thing, the defendant apparently lied about multiple serious illnesses and had friends, including the couple, take him to doctors' appointments. He stayed with them after he told them he had gallbladder surgery, which he didn't have. I guess I don't understand how he could have fooled so many people about so many things.

http://www.wral.com/political-strategist-dies-after-stabbing-in-raleigh-home/12374484/

http://www.wral.com/-he-s-trying-to-kill-me-slain-strategist-s-husband-recalls-of-stabbing/14504266/

http://www.wral.com/broyhill-s-lies-went-beyond-cancer-tale-detective-testifies/14510354/
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There's already a long thread on this in Trials.......
 
Darn it! I did a search and it came up empty. Thanks for telling me.
 
Boodles said:
There were 3 interviews with Broyhill. Only one has been admitted (4/26) and it was played for the court and transcripts given to the jury. Arbour is referring to another which took place on the 23rd.

I think there's a lot more to this case than what we've heard. I can't stand Arbour, but at this point I don't think he's blowing smoke. There's more here than meets the eye, IMO.
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I totally agree with you, Boodles. I too live in the area and have been bothered by the information we currently have about the case. Here are some of my issues:

1. How is it possible that JB fooled so many people about his medical issues, having them take him to fake doc appointments, staying with the Hahns after fake surgery, etc.?
2. What exactly were JB's credentials for managing campaign finances? I vaguely remember reading an article in 2013 that said JB did not go to college or have any special training for this job. I can't find that article now, though. Do any of you remember that?
3. I know they've charged JB with the attempted murder of Nation Hahn, but it sounds like from the testimony this week that Nation was injured only because he tried to take the knife from JB.
4. Everyone consistently describes JB and Nation Hahn as best friends from childhood, but none of the stories I've read describe any kind of MUTUAL relationship at all; rather the stories are all about the Hahns taking care of JB.

I just feel like there is at least one huge piece of information that has not been made public.
 
Doghairrules said:
I totally agree with you, Boodles. I too live in the area and have been bothered by the information we currently have about the case. Here are some of my issues:

1. How is it possible that JB fooled so many people about his medical issues, having them take him to fake doc appointments, staying with the Hahns after fake surgery, etc.?
2. What exactly were JB's credentials for managing campaign finances? I vaguely remember reading an article in 2013 that said JB did not g oto college or have any special training for this job. I can't find that article now, though. Do any of you remember that?
3. I know they've charged JB with the attempted murder of Nation Hahn, but it sounds like from the testimony this week that Nation was injured only because he tried to take the knife from JB.
4. Everyone consistently describes JB and Nation Hahn as best friends from childhood, but none of the stories I've read describe any kind of MUTUAL relationship at all; rather the stories are all about the Hahns taking care of JB.

I just feel like there is at least one huge piece of information that has not been made public.
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The only other thing that I recall about post-H.S. education is that JB told the Hahns that he had "nearly completed" schooling/training for mortuary school, but they found out later that he had only helped at a funeral home for a short time or something similar. It may have come out of Nation's testimony, but I'm not sure. That's all that has been said about post-H.S. eduation, AFAIK. Have heard nothing-zero-nada about his have any accounting education -- maybe he had it in H.S.

I'm not so sure that we are missing any big hunk of the Hahn-Broyhill story. I rather think that Arbour is doing his best to sew doubt on Broyhill's motivations on the day he killed Jamie and wounded Nation -- but I'm not buying it yet. I don't think the ADA has left out anything significant in his case on the three of them. But it's not over yet, so I am open...
 
I used to think there was something we weren't being told too, but now I"m not so sure. I think it really is how it looks.

I'm not sure how JB fooled so many people about his health situation, but apparently people just believed him. I thought I heard NH speak of going to get their parking passses validated in his testimony, but he never said anything else about it. It was one day they took JB to the hospital for tests. I thought it was at Duke. But from what I've read they don't have a validation process for parking. Maybe he was mistaken or perhaps I misunderstood. I guess they never noticed that he didn't have loads of meds around. Someone with that many medical issues, would have had lots of medications to take.

Some of you have derived some tactic that is being played on cross, so I must applaud you. I can't follow it. Man, will I be relieved to see direct examinations start.

I do think the charge of attempted murder of NH is going to be problematic, since the injuries were cuts to the hands. One could argue that he would have been killed if he had not grabbed the knife in his hand. We'll see how the state makes that argument. I read that the defendant is charged with two counts of attempted murder, one count of murder and one count of assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/nc-murder-suspect-jonathan-broyhill-wanted-kill-best/story?id=29406103
 
From my experience at Duke Hospital -- I had cataract surgery and lens implants (they are wonderful, BTW!) on both eyes, one at a time, several years ago at the Duke Eye Center. I went for pre- and post-procedure exams for about a year. Never, never was my car or myself exempt from parking fees in the Duke parking areas.That's just how Duke operates. Or did then & I'm betting it hasn't changed.

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Re the charge for Nation's injuries: IIRC, I think Nation testified that when he came downstairs, after seeing JB standing over Jamie bending over her with the knife, Nation said something like, "Then he turned and came after me." If that is what he said, then that would sound pretty life-threatening to me.
 
With all of these objections being sustained, why is he not making any offers of proof? Maybe, I'm missing something, but if the information should be allowed and it would help the defendant, then how is the appeals court going to know about it, if there is no offer of what it is? I"m totally confused.

I suppose we are to deem that the minister somehow influenced the defendant to tell the truth. Okay........
 
Yes, that's what it looks like....where did Arbour get that info? If only from JB, the truth-teller-of-no-peer, I would be just a bit skeptical. Did Arbour get that info also from Rev. Petty? Hmmmmm.
 
No point in calling Petty, though the ADA might, since she must not speak of any words between her and JB due to the confidentiality of pastor/parishioner. Only JB can tell that to the Court...
 
I think the notes of when the Rev. was in the hospital room are in the police report, plus, JB no doubt told his defense team. But, my point is, what is wrong with what the detectives have from the defendant's interview? He says he didn't want to kill JH. There don't seem to any comments that the minister could have caused the defendant to make that are harmful to the defendant. He had already told the officers on the scene what happened. So, I"m not following his point.
 
Same here -- maybe he's just trying to stir up confusion which might lead to doubt. I certainly have no idea what's on Arbour's mind (thank heaven). Maybe his closing argument or one of his witnesses could shed some light. <chuckle>
 
I wish this judge would lay into Abour!!! Is it just me or is Abour so disrespectful to this judge!?!? Talking over the judge, having such a bad tone and his little chuckles and comments....
 
I suspect he wants to provoke the judge. That isn't likely to work. The judge could hold him in contempt, though. Once the court rules, you aren't supposed to go on and on about it.
 
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