GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #3

[kittythehare]

thank you this is the one I remember reading and I guess I thought of what the parents wanted for their children as translating to their will in my mind...he did focus on the children's Irish citizenship...but I was trying to make the point about the evidence being used at trial...I have no doubt that Molly moved quickly to probate Jason's estate as his surviving spouse...and that's how and why she got it before the court so quickly...I asked before if she knew about his will before he died?...I'm only curious because maybe she would have done things differently had she known? did she expect the Lynchs to show up here and contest her?...she obviously relinquished his body pretty quick...and yet she wouldn't let them see the children because why?... IMO for that reason alone, she presented herself as uncaring and unstable like she couldn't see anything coming... but my point is I don't think evidence presented to a probate judge can be used against a defendant in a criminal trial...I found this article here that talks about NC's "trial de novo"...the way I'm reading it not only is there a "start fresh" aspect for the criminal proceedings, there is also that aspect to her property appeal being heard in superior court... http://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/trial-de-novo/

well done on sussing out all the relevant legalities!
Remember, however that this case has already been heard by a Garnd Jury, the results of which are sealed indefinitely.
The custody case is an entirely different case.
we talked about it lots and many of us decided not to discuss it further here, only in so far as it may apply to motivation for this brutal murder. This is in order to show respect for the children and to protect them from further media exposure which may endanger their security and their future happiness.
They were not guilty of anything.

 

[stmarysmead]

Here's a question I would ask a jury: if you saw your neighbor beating a dog with a baseball bat, would you pick up a brick and join in?

This idea that the Martens have no responsibility for Jason's death, that there is nothing obscene in the amount of rage shown in the autopsy is downright bizarre. The fact that TM and MM had no injuries in a donnybrook with JC says that at all times they had the advantage. Only rage accounts for the heinous injuries in this case...a rage that continued on well past any justification as self defense.

And taking that a step farther, after perpetrating a rage killing, the family immediately regroups to seize the assets and the little children.

Would you let that neighbor you saw beat to death a neighborhood dog care for YOUR kids for even an hour...after witnessing their propensity to RAGE and loss of control?

I believe if their attorneys continue to try to paint these two as victims, it will backfire. The family callousness and calculation in the days after they murdered Jason shows a clannish propensity to be able to justify anything they do, as long as it suits their "needs" and "wants." They not only murdered Jason, they wanted to obliterate him, essentially cremate him and be done with him...grabbing everything he loved and every material thing he worked for. They murdered him and then wanted him immediately forgotten,,.so as Uncle Mike says, they could "get on with their lives", happily shopping.

Even now, their attorneys portray his murder as an..inconvenience..to TM and MM. They "shouldn't even be charged." Jason should have been been burned to dust immediately as if he never existed. Murdering Jason should be a blowoff...what NERVE to impose upon their fun lives with this nonsense of a trial! Jason's life was and is worthless in their minds...and they appear unable to fathom that his life had great value to anyone else, because it didn't to them.

And this is the family mindset in which they wished to emotionally confine his surviving children.

These are all my opinions only. But I will tell you that, in my opinion, by here is some core of human empathy that is glaringly absent in this family.

 

[Logic-lady]

I believe if their attorneys continue to try to paint these two as victims, it will backfire.

These are all my opinions only. But I will tell you that, in my opinion, by here is some core of human empathy that is glaringly absent in this family.

I agree.

It is just so strange, even if we were to take Molly's version of events as truth, their portrayal of themselves and their situation is devoid of ANY emotion. Even cases where victims are subjected to years of emotional or physical trauma at the hands of an abuser, there is evidence of some feeling for the abuser...there is almost always a sense of guilt that the abuser may suffer/has suffered as a result of the actions taken or the story being exposed and a reluctance to do further damage. It often takes months of counselling to encourage the victim that they have nothing to be ashamed of etc. The Martens seem to be the polar opposite of this, it is truly bizarre!

 

[searchinGirl]

In my opinion, Holton is stating Molly's innocence on the basis that the actions they took were 'justified and necessary' to deal with the situation in which they found themselves on the night in question, rather than she is innocent of any action on the night. Molly has already admitted to striking Jason in interviews with the police so I would doubt they would try to change that account at this stage as it would challenge her credibility.

My issue with the harrassment statement is that once again there is no level of responsibility or accountability placed on Molly (or her defense team it seems) that their actions (constant FB posts, media and television interviews etc) could have attributed to the level of harrassment received by her. Anyone knows that to post anything publicly online leaves you open to trolls and bullies, to post personal contact details is an absolute no-no, but yet, they claim that Molly is being harrassed as though people are personally seeking her out to do so. I find it interesting that even on this point, they seem reluctant to place any form of responsibility on her, instead they continue to paint the picture of the virtuous oppressed victim.

If you don't mind telling me, how do we know that Molly admitted striking JC in police interviews?... I've read a lot of articles and I can't find anything about that...

 

[stephanddoody]

If you don't mind telling me, how do we know that Molly admitted striking JC in police interviews?... I've read a lot of articles and I can't find anything about that...

It was a statement that Uncle Mike made to a news channel when they were indicted I believe . I will find the link and put it up http://www.thejournal.ie/molly-martens-dad-charged-jason-corbett-2531335-Jan2016/

The actions of self defence that Tom and Molly took the morning of 2 August were completely necessary and justified.

 

[pet friend]

I have just read Mike Earnest's statement per logic lady's #173 post. How does one understand the denial and lack of reality based thinking? I felt like like crying reading it. The fact that some of Molly's & Thomas Martens extended family are not horrified by Jason's murder, speaks to a mindset that I can't comprehend. It is sickening in it's lack of truthfulness.To read it is nauseating. I wonder if the emt he refers to in his statement had a chance to read the autopsy report?

 

[searchinGirl]

I have just read Mike Earnest's statement per logic lady's #173 post. How does one understand the denial and lack of reality based thinking? I felt like like crying reading it. The fact that some of Molly's & Thomas Martens extended family are not horrified by Jason's murder, speaks to a mindset that I can't comprehend. It is sickening in it's lack of truthfulness.To read it is nauseating. I wonder if the emt he refers to in his statement had a chance to read the autopsy report?

obviously, the Martens don't like Jason very much...especially Molly...

 

[Logic-lady]

If you don't mind telling me, how do we know that Molly admitted striking JC in police interviews?... I've read a lot of articles and I can't find anything about that...

Of course, it's stated as part of the probable cause statements by the investigating detectives in order to obtain the search warrants, you can read them all here - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8cEpQMURYSEpMcEU/view?pref=2&pli=1

 

[searchinGirl]

Of course, it's stated as part of the probable cause statements by the investigating detectives in order to obtain the search warrants, you can read them all here - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8cEpQMURYSEpMcEU/view?pref=2&pli=1

thank you Logic-lady...I needed to read that...

 

[Logic-lady]

It might be good to recap on what facts have been released so far. Much of the information discussed on the thread is circumstantial at best so it is hard to follow sometimes. So far we know from police reports and court documents -

• Jason, Molly and the kids were socialising informally with some of their neighbours on the front lawn/in the street during the afternoon, early evening of Saturday on the weekend on which he died.

• At some point the Martens made an unscheduled visit and stayed the night.

• The children were collected from a neighbours home at aprox 11pm and brought back to the property.

• Jason was bludgeoned to death in the Master Bedroom with two weapons - a paving stone and a baseball bat.

• Both Thomas Martens and Molly Martens have admitted striking Jason, but have stated it was done as an act of self defense.

• Thomas Martens has stated he was awoken by the sound of a disturbance upstairs and went to investigate alone, leaving Sharon Martens in the basement.

• The 911 call was placed at 3.04, with the EMTs arriving at 3.24, upon arrival of the EMT's Jason was pronounced dead.

• Police officers who arrived at the property have indicated that the scene which they came upon was not consistent with the version of events supplied to them by the defendents.

• The post mortem revealed extensive injury to Jason, particularly his head and his left arm.

Since the night of the murder, it has become apparent that Molly has cashed in at least one of Jason's life insurance policies aswell as emptying the house of the majority of it's contents. It has also been stated that she has withdrawn large sums of cash from the couples joint accounts prior to them being frozen as part of the investigation.

Apologies if it feels as though I am covering old ground, but I thought it might be helpful to lay out the bare bones of what we are working on regarding the criminal trial as it can get confusing with so many court appearances for separate issues.

 

[stmarysmead]

Facebook does not allow children under 13 to have accounts.

https://www.facebook.com/help/157793540954833

So, I've been thinking about MM's maudlin, daily doses of high drama on FB, as she tries to contact Jason's children and remind them of her phone number and her undying maternal love.

Why did she think they'd be on FB? Why did she think they'd see them?

Had MM set up illegal accounts for an 8 and 10 year old, ignoring the inherent dangers that young children face on adult social media?

Or did she believe that they regularly logged on the Internet and read her Facebook page, the one where she is quoted as saying was a vehicle for her to reconnect with an old boyfriend since she no longer loved their Father? Interesting?

Whatever gave her reason to think they'd see any of the pictures or protestations of devotion that she posted? It's a puzzle???

In my opinion, that FB campaign was a strategy. It's a marketing campaign by MM to introduce herself to the public in a positive way...before the autopsy results were revealed showing her propensity for rage killing. She puts in barbs and hints that Jason and family should be viewed in negative light...and , is so tone deaf to REAL grief and emotion...that she unwittingly parades the affluent life that Jason lavished upon her, while trying to stage her pity-party.

It was never about the children...it was always about the murder she and her Father committed. Imagine...using the children of your victim...as a strategy to get away with your crime.

That's Molly Martens, in my opinion only, of course.

 

[stephanddoody]

Facebook does not allow children under 13 to have accounts.

https://www.facebook.com/help/157793540954833

So, I've been thinking about MM's maudlin, daily doses of high drama on FB, as she tries to contact Jason's children and remind them of her phone number and her undying maternal love.

Why did she think they'd be on FB? Why did she think they'd see them?

Had MM set up illegal accounts for an 8 and 10 year old, ignoring the inherent dangers that young children face on adult social media?

Or did she believe that they regularly logged on the Internet and read her Facebook page, the one where she is quoted as saying was a vehicle for her to reconnect with an old boyfriend since she no longer loved their Father? Interesting?

Whatever gave her reason to think they'd see any of the pictures or protestations of devotion that she posted? It's a puzzle???

In my opinion, that FB campaign was a strategy. It's a marketing campaign by MM to introduce herself to the public in a positive way...before the autopsy results were revealed showing her propensity for rage killing. She puts in barbs and hints that Jason and family should be viewed in negative light...and , is so tone deaf to REAL grief and emotion...that she unwittingly parades the affluent life that Jason lavished upon her, while trying to stage her pity-party.

It was never about the children...it was always about the murder she and her Father committed. Imagine...using the children of your victim...as a strategy to get away with your crime.

That's Molly Martens, in my opinion only, of course.

My opinion on this is the same as yours . It was/is a pr campaign. The children would know her phone number for definite and possibly her email also . That is something everybody teaches children from a young age. If they wanted to call her they would have by now . That they haven't tells me they don't want to and that is ok . Its been nearly 9 months they would have got plenty opportunity to do so . We have been told that Molly put notes in their teddy bears. Not rational behaviour in my opinion .People have a tendency to believe when a woman says she is a victim of DV or is raped or abused , we have seen it many times and sometimes it turns out this is not the case, that it is a lie . I don't believe Molly was a victim of Dv . I don't believe she had any injuries either . She was very busy in the days following Jasons murder . She was at the bank ,she was at his office, she was buying schoolbooks, she was applying for custody she was at the court . She didn't seem to have any marks on the 14th of August when she was attending court . So when did this marks she got appear or disappear. It makes no sense at all to me. If this was reversed there would be no questions asked . The man would just be locked up and the key thrown away.
http://www.limerickpost.ie/2015/08/31/corbetts-reject-deluded-propaganda-of-martens-family/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/ne...y-battled-Molly-Martens-custody-kids-Aug.html

On the killing of his brother, John Corbett said that “there has not been one ounce of remorse or compassion from the Martens Family to those kids for killing their dad, no remorse or contact to my Mam and Dad for killing their son. No one, nothing only Facebook posts to appear to the public as if they are concerned about the kids.”This, Mr Corbett said is done “to put up a very false deceitful image to try and protect their own necks.”
Jack and Sarah are in a very normal secure loving environment Mr Corbett said adding that the two young children are mourning their dad and “not once asked after her”.
“They are out of the awful unhealthy environment they have been subjected to. Far away from the cold apathetic Martens family.
Mr Corbett added revealed that notes, phone numbers and other details were hidden in the children’s toys and that Jack and Sarah were warned not to tell anyone.
This Mr Corbett said was “not a normal thing to do… Of course they immediately told Aunty Tracey”.
“The Martens Family in the desperate throws of survival, with no real love for my nephew and niece.
“My poor abused brother is dead because he was a loving husband who wanted to protect his kids and bring them home.
“They are trying coldly to attack his character because he cannot speak for himself.
“I was not there to protect my brother Jason from the cowards

 

[pet friend]

The more I find out about this case it seems to go from bad to worse. There is some serious pathology here. The information about Molly's facebook campaign makes it so transparent-she will stop @ nothing to further her agenda. Hearing about notes in the children's toys & telling them to keep it a secret-this is a very sick individual. Thank God Jason saw Molly was not fit to adopt the children.

 

[stephanddoody]

Seems there is a article today Mollys ex fiancé talks about their relationship . He actually wrote a book about his experience with her and her mental health issues .

Her lost years have been found and it full of lies decite and explosive rows also. It's not available online yet but makes some interesting reading

 

[Frizby]

Wow, the article in today's Daily Mail is very explosive. The ex even wrote a book about his relationship with MM, it says Mr Keith Maginn said he as left so traumatised by the relationship that he sought solace in writing and wrote a self-help book titled, Turning This Thing Around, outlining his relationship with the former model. The article details the quantities of medication she was on, her stays in Mental Health facilities, a miscarriage, etc. Wow is an understatement.

During what he described as 'explosive' arguments, he said his ex was never physically violent, but would prevent him from leaving the room. She had a way of turning a lot of things into something negative, he said. I could compliment her and some how she would turn that into something mean. When I would try to explain and we would both start getting angry or tense then I would try to tell her that I needed to step outside and cool down for a little bit, but I would come back. She would never let me do that. She felt that if I left I was never coming back. It was over, I didn't love her. It was exhausting because I would need to get away and she wouldn't let me. There was no escape.

 

[Truthalways]

Wow, the article in today's Daily Mail is very explosive. The ex even wrote a book about his relationship with MM, it says Mr Keith Maginn said he as left so traumatised by the relationship that he sought solace in writing and wrote a self-help book titled, Turning This Thing Around, outlining his relationship with the former model. The article details the quantities of medication she was on, her stays in Mental Health facilities, a miscarriage, etc. Wow is an understatement.

Thanks for posting this extract Frisby. Is there anywhere I can find a link to the article. Maybe it's not available yet.

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[Frizby]

Thanks for posting this extract Frisby. Is there anywhere I can find a link to the article. Maybe it's not available yet.

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The Daily Mail don't really do an online version however their sister paper Evoke often do copies on their site. It might be up later but if all fails I can type up further excerpt.

 

[Truthalways]

The Daily Mail don't really do an online version however their sister paper Evoke often do copies on their site. It might be up later but if all fails I can type up further excerpt.

Thanks so much Frisby. I would really like to read it. I'm now wondering if this ex has done this interview with a paper does that mean that he isn't a prosecution witness? Can witnesses go public before a trial ? He would obviously be a threat to the defence.

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[Frizby]

Keith Maginn claims in this article that the book "Turning this Thing Around" was written following his break up with MM. He says in the book he calls MM 'Mary'. The following is note he said when being interviews about the book in December 2013.

Why did you feel you had to write this book?

I have been writing most of my life, as far back as I can remember. But it was never focused writing, just here and there. However, a few years ago I found myself sitting outside of a psych ward in Atlanta, Georgia. My fiancée was struggling terribly with bipolar depression. I had done everything I could, but was powerless to help her. I was also fighting my own battle with chronic pain and anxiety. I had no idea what I could do to turn things around. No matter how hard I fought, how much I prayed, things seemed to get worse and worse.

I soon found myself slipping into a deep depression, though I remained outwardly happy. Few of my family, friends or co-workers had any idea how desperate my predicament had become. My fiancée was adamant that no one know what she was going through, but I knew I couldn’t keep everything bottled up inside. I was perilously close to a complete nervous breakdown. Not wanting to betray her trust and talk to anyone, I started writing. It was my therapy, the only way to get some of the anger, sadness and confusion out of me. The story seemed to write itself. I realized that others might benefit from what I was writing. I felt people could relate to at least some of what I went through: heartbreak, depression, chronic pain, frustration…

https://arbookcorner.wordpress.com/2013/12/02/interview-with-keith-maginn/

 

[Frizby]

Thanks so much Frisby. I would really like to read it. I'm now wondering if this ex has done this interview with a paper does that mean that he isn't a prosecution witness? Can witnesses go public before a trial ? He would obviously be a threat to the defence.

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The articles does mention that he was contacted by detectives investigating the case & also that MM attorney gave a statement on the matter

"The detective said he understood that I was once in a relationship with Molly and that I had written a book about it" he said.

"He said she was a person of interest in a crime and he would like to talk to me as soon as possible. I was shocked. I thought, "Oh my God, what is going on?"

Walter Holton, attorney for Molly Corbett told the Mail: "Here are the facts. Jason Corbett brutally attacked his wife on August 2, 2015, placing her and her father in a life threatening situation. They responded in self defence and immediately called emergency responders. In cases such as this one, efforts are often made to portray the victim as domestic violence as the culprit. Such efforts are misguided and cruel"

I would suspect that he will be a witness for the prosecution based on what is contained in the article. The book was written back in 2011, it is not as if he has just written it.