GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #3

[searchinGirl]

Don't be sorry about a brain dump they are usually extremely helpful!

I am slightly confused does that mean once charges are filed in the US no further evidence can be adduced? In Europe you have a very small window to file charges and you can continue your investigation, to help your cause, during the preliminary motions.

I had assumed the only evidence which was adjudicated on as being inadmissable was the lawyer \ client correspondence via email for obvious reasons.

I don't think the prosecution need to prove any monetary trail. Just that MM was reckless in causing JC' s death.

I believe further evidence can be introduced by petition before trial and then the judge decides it's probative or prejudicial value in letting it come in...

are there differences between the European countries?... I mentioned the other day that English-read rights say something like if there is anything to say in your defense now, speak up or it can be used against you later...as opposed to you right to the right to keep silent...it's like speak to your innocence, not your guilt...IMO

 

[Hotchips]

I think it is very strange and significant that neither US or Mailonline online editions did not run his interviews.
It is also very strange that none of the other media sources, Irish or Intl did not pick it up..
Not even Evoke..

Agree they have more.. much more re DA

The DM engages in a different type of reporting than other Irish media such as the independent, Irish times, examiner etc. They like sensationalism and exposé type reporting. The KM article was very much an expose which the Irish times, info etc do not publish. That is not their style. So far, they have covered the story very well but have stuck to reporting on the court appearances and what has been presented during those hearings by both sides. Unbiased reporting. Wise move imo not publishing online (social media) to avoid the commentary that follows , which only plays into the hands of the defence's complaint of online harassment.

 

[emmalpage81]

I believe further evidence can be introduced by petition before trial and then the judge decides it's probative or prejudicial value in letting it come in...

are there differences between the European countries?... I mentioned the other day that English-read rights say something like if there is anything to say in your defense now, speak up or it can be used against you later...as opposed to you right to the right to keep silent...it's like speak to your innocence, not your guilt...IMO

I think in the UK charges are brought very quickly (if there are any) and then a full investigation swings into place. We do not have that openness of the US system with autopsy's and search warrants being released so early in the process.

 

[kittythehare]

The DM engages in a different type of reporting than other Irish media such as the independent, Irish times, examiner etc. They like sensationalism and exposé type reporting. The KM article was very much an expose which the Irish times, info etc do not publish. That is not their style. So far, they have covered the story very well but have stuck to reporting on the court appearances and what has been presented during those hearings by both sides. Unbiased reporting. Wise move imo not publishing online (social media) to avoid the commentary that follows , which only plays into the hands of the defence's complaint of online harassment.

they are not alone in being sensationalist
there are at least 10 others that did not follow it either, including mail's own prodigy- Evoke, who have published every single piece of delph so far, ditto sun star and sunday world..
was a gag order or a prevent further circulation type order placed on them, I wonder? They would have lapped it up like kittens normally.
I would add the Independant to their ranks but thats just my personal opinion ;-)

None of the above have the slightest concern regarding the outcome or effect their stories will have on anyone or anything

 

[searchinGirl]

I had taken their attempts to contact him as a form of emotional blackmail (apologies it is a Friday and my brain has shut off), if you cared you would not do this type thing...... KM's actions during his relationship were to protect MM maybe she assumed this would continue?

it's just that when he published the book his stated intention was to protect her identity...I have to assume he didn't have a release from her to use her name before he published he had lost touch with her and probably couldn't secure one and that is why he changed her name to Mary......the way I see it he doesn't have a right to reveal her identity now...so essentially it's a defamation of character...and an invasion of her privacy...IMO ... plus I'm going to look into media laws concerning what can be broadcast about someone when undergoing trial...there must be something because we so often don't hear much until a trial is underway or concluded...IMO

 

[Electric Sheep]

I think it is very strange and significant that neither US or Mailonline online editions did not run his interviews.
It is also very strange that none of the other media sources, Irish or Intl did not pick it up..
Not even Evoke..

Agree they have more.. much more re DA

Perhaps a fear of libel laws once a false name was no longer in use?

 

[Hotchips]

they are not alone in being sensationalist
there are at least 10 others that did not follow it either, including mail's own prodigy- Evoke, who have published every single piece of delph so far, ditto sun star and sunday world..
was a gag order or a prevent further circulation type order placed on them, I wonder? They would have lapped it up like kittens normally.
I would add the Independant to their ranks but thats just my personal opinion ;-)

None of the above have the slightest concern regarding the outcome or effect their stories will have on anyone or anything

Yes I agree it's possible they were gagged. Privacy issues etc. He did have a disclaimer as such in his book stating the name change to protect her privacy. Media has to be careful too what they publish. They would have to fact check to make they aren't leaving themselves open to being sued for publishing misinformation regardless of how well the source knew the person.

I have wondered though how did the DM reporter find him? It's very random IMO to find a virtually unknown author who writes a book about his ex girlfriends mental health problems with her name changed in it and make the connection. Was the reporter searching Amazon and came across it by pure chance. If that was case there is nothing in that book that gives any indication who it was about or her family. Was KMs name leaked to the reporter by law enforcement, or court or law office staff? I would think they would have been the only ones aware of him. Once his name was revealed, it was easy find the book. Intriguing!

 

[stephanddoody]

https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/know-your-rights-what-are-miranda-rights

Have read the Miranda differences there is a difference you are right. But I don't think Molly mentioning anything that was relevant to the circumstances would have a negative impact . I mean if your going to say it in court, use it as your reason for self defence and you have evidence of this why not say . Not plausible IMO and makes no sense .

Also as you say it I'm not sure if Keith says police detective. Just says detective. Could it be a possibility the DM hired a PI. I know it's not a big story yet in America but it certainly is here

 

[Frizby]

they are not alone in being sensationalist
there are at least 10 others that did not follow it either, including mail's own prodigy- Evoke, who have published every single piece of delph so far, ditto sun star and sunday world..
was a gag order or a prevent further circulation type order placed on them, I wonder? They would have lapped it up like kittens normally.
I would add the Independant to their ranks but thats just my personal opinion ;-)

None of the above have the slightest concern regarding the outcome or effect their stories will have on anyone or anything

There has been plenty of article that the Irish Daily Mail have published that have not gone up on line, in fact, the IDM don't tend to put most of their stuff on line unlike the UK version of the paper where they go hell for leather on their online edition. Evoke really only publish general articles, sometimes they are the same as the one in the IDM but not always but when they are they are usually only a snapshot of the entire article, the reporter which did this one I have yet to see her stuff on Evoke.

The other big article she did a few months back also did not go up on line however it was more general so elements of the story hit other media around the same time. Her previous story told about JC & MM having drinks on the lawn that night with neighbours, it gives the excuse given about the brick being in the bedroom as it was part of a school project. I don't think those points were reproduced in any other media. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest that this interview did not hit any other media as the interview was with that particular reporter. She has spent a great deal of time over in the US covering this, don't think any of the other papers has sent their journalists over. I was however expecting to see something about the existence of the book in other media sources though, mainly the red tops. If the story had have appeared in a US media, I would definitely expect our red tops to run with it.

 

[stmarysmead]

Perhaps a fear of libel laws once a false name was no longer in use?

The criminal charges make her a "public figure." That changes things. And even so, she'd have to prove she was never hospitalized at Emory...never lived with him...never had multiple prescriptions. More lawyers, more money, more bad publicity.

 

[searchinGirl]

The criminal charges make her a "public figure." That changes things. And even so, she'd have to prove she was never hospitalized at Emory...never lived with him...never had multiple prescriptions. More lawyers, more money, more bad publicity.

IDK stmarys...we are talking about personal health information...I don't think it's subject to public fodder...IMO

 

[searchinGirl]

Yes I agree it's possible they were gagged. Privacy issues etc. He did have a disclaimer as such in his book stating the name change to protect her privacy. Media has to be careful too what they publish. They would have to fact check to make they aren't leaving themselves open to being sued for publishing misinformation regardless of how well the source knew the person.

I have wondered though how did the DM reporter find him? It's very random IMO to find a virtually unknown author who writes a book about his ex girlfriends mental health problems with her name changed in it and make the connection. Was the reporter searching Amazon and came across it by pure chance. If that was case there is nothing in that book that gives any indication who it was about or her family. Was KMs name leaked to the reporter by law enforcement, or court or law office staff? I would think they would have been the only ones aware of him. Once his name was revealed, it was easy find the book. Intriguing!

I would think some of his friends knew who Molly was and tipped off the press...IMO

 

[Frizby]

I would think some of his friends knew who Molly was and tipped off the press...IMO

Or maybe the reporter tracked down her previous addresses & spoke to people around the areas where she lived

 

[stmarysmead]

IDK stmarys...we are talking about personal health information...I don't think it's subject to public fodder...IMO

These are not private medical records that are covered by HIPPA laws. MM was "featured" in an autobiography of an Ex-fiancée, ...a book published years ago...wherein the fact of her pyschiatric conditions causing havoc in the author's life is covered in multiple chapters.

She is now a public figure by nature of being charged with murder. He was sought out by the authorities. He has every right now to give an interview about the his autobiographical account of his life with a a public figure who is an admitted killer.

 

[searchinGirl]

Or maybe the reporter tracked down her previous addresses & spoke to people around the areas where she lived

you know, KM said he was notified by a detective...I need to correct that, ... the tip most likely started there meaning someone gave it to the sheriff and then he probably told a friend who doesn't like Molly or thought he would benefit from the notoriety...IMO

 

[searchinGirl]

These are not private medical records that are covered by HIPPA laws. MM was "featured" in an autobiography of an Ex-fiancée, ...a book published years ago...wherein the fact of her pyschiatric conditions causing havoc in the author's life is covered in multiple chapters.

She is now a public figure by nature of being charged with murder. He was sought out by the authorities. He has every right now to give an interview about the his autobiographical account of his life with a a public figure who is an admitted killer.

agree to disagree here... I may be wrong but there's a reason the story has been somewhat suppressed...IMO

 

[Mom2catieandtwins]

The lack of media coverage in NC is shocking. I have followed true crime cases for years. This is a first. People know about the case, because of gossip. Not because our news stations are reporting.

 

[Francesca]

It's a positive sign for the prosecution if there is minimal publicity before the trial. With a tearful and pretty young stepmother on trial, normally media coverage would be great benefit for the defense, especially if you were dealing with hazy circumstantial evidence or "he said, she said" testimony. But IMO, the defense is avoiding media coverage because they know that even if the most sensationalist media wanted to back Molly's version, they would still have to refer to the autopsy in their reports. The Martens' cottage industry Facebook reporting can eliminate any mention of the autopsy, but they can't do that in the real world.
When the trial begins, the autopsy will be the primary piece of evidence, and everything else - bipolar diagnosis, questions of DV, plans to move to Ireland - will be seen in the context of the autopsy. This is in direct contrast to the Martens' original media campaign on behalf of a pretty mother deprived of her children and her property.
Ironically when you compare the two media angles, the Martens' campaign neatly provides a motive for the violent crime - they thought they were deflecting from the truth by presenting Molly as this sympathetic figure; but actually they are taking us one step back to the moments before Jason's death, and showing why she thought she was justified in killing Jason when he arguably threatened to take the children and her financial security away. An interesting example of the saying "the truth is always somewhere in the middle."

 

[Logic-lady]

There has been plenty of article that the Irish Daily Mail have published that have not gone up on line, in fact, the IDM don't tend to put most of their stuff on line unlike the UK version of the paper where they go hell for leather on their online edition. Evoke really only publish general articles, sometimes they are the same as the one in the IDM but not always but when they are they are usually only a snapshot of the entire article, the reporter which did this one I have yet to see her stuff on Evoke.

The other big article she did a few months back also did not go up on line however it was more general so elements of the story hit other media around the same time. Her previous story told about JC & MM having drinks on the lawn that night with neighbours, it gives the excuse given about the brick being in the bedroom as it was part of a school project. I don't think those points were reproduced in any other media. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest that this interview did not hit any other media as the interview was with that particular reporter. She has spent a great deal of time over in the US covering this, don't think any of the other papers has sent their journalists over. I was however expecting to see something about the existence of the book in other media sources though, mainly the red tops. If the story had have appeared in a US media, I would definitely expect our red tops to run with it.

Thanks Frizby, I had been wondering where I had read about the socialising in the garden with the neighbours! Apparently, Catherine Fegan is contracted to the IDM and seems to be happy to travel to the US to cover the story, perhaps she was went to Knoxville to do a little bit of local digging?

 

[Logic-lady]

It's a positive sign for the prosecution if there is minimal publicity before the trial. With a tearful and pretty young stepmother on trial, normally media coverage would be great benefit for the defense, especially if you were dealing with hazy circumstantial evidence or "he said, she said" testimony. But IMO, the defense is avoiding media coverage because they know that even if the most sensationalist media wanted to back Molly's version, they would still have to refer to the autopsy in their reports. The Martens' cottage industry Facebook reporting can eliminate any mention of the autopsy, but they can't do that in the real world.
When the trial begins, the autopsy will be the primary piece of evidence, and everything else - bipolar diagnosis, questions of DV, plans to move to Ireland - will be seen in the context of the autopsy. This is in direct contrast to the Martens' original media campaign on behalf of a pretty mother deprived of her children and her property.
Ironically when you compare the two media angles, the Martens' campaign neatly provides a motive for the violent crime - they thought they were deflecting from the truth by presenting Molly as this sympathetic figure; but actually they are taking us one step back to the moments before Jason's death, and showing why she thought she was justified in killing Jason when he arguably threatened to take the children and her financial security away. An interesting example of the saying "the truth is always somewhere in the middle."

Great post!