MissSallyAnnie
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Boodles, you were in the courtroom?I totally agree with you! And I think it was obvious to others in the courtroom.
Boodles, you were in the courtroom?I totally agree with you! And I think it was obvious to others in the courtroom.
Forget Manhattan to Raleigh. She was gonna end up in KINSTON! She made sure that was not going to be her fate (unless she gets sent to a prison there!)
And I hated the way she spoke about her deceased mother..the smirking snide comment about everyone getting "stuck" with her. What a biatch. And even if her mother was an evil monster, who speaks that way about their mother when they're facing a murder charge and trying to woo the jury?
Laura thought she and Grant were married but he never signed the marriage certificate, I don't recall when Laura became aware of that little fraud he perpetrated on her but one of her friends testified about it.
Something has been bothering me, when Amanda testifed and said Lily had a 'poopy' diaper and she came out of the bedroom to get a fresh diaper, it just didn't seem like she was saying she had brought Lily with her, she said she stopped behind Grant and picked up the paper that Laura slid across the table to him and read it, then suddenly Lily is in Amanda's arms because Laura starts talking about how pretty she is. Does anyone else get the feeling that maybe Lily was not in her arms when she came out of the bedroom and the rap about Laura getting up because she wants to hold Lily and trips on the carpet is a bunch-a-bull? That maybe Amanda came out of the room and 'hurt her, hurt her bad'?
What? Is it going to be deliberations starting Monday??
Amanda and Sha flew/moved to NYC New Year's Eve 2009 (of all times?). In Jan. 2010 is when Grant came. They married in Vegas in 2010, April, I think. Amanda got pregnant in Sept. 2010. Lily was born in early June (6 or 9) 2011. Laura was murdered in July 2011.
Excellent thoughts. I believe, too, that Amanda was very jealous of Laura. I take your point about Grant wanting control of the boys, as objects to promote. I re-watched the testimony of Calloway, and in her report she notes that Grant needs to tone down his "autocratic manner" when interacting with his boys. This seems to be something from his family background. His father must be Grant II, grandfather Grant I - named like kings. Grant discusses this in that phony interview on his YouTube channel. He was creepy even before this happened.
I also wonder if Amanda or Grant were disappointed that their baby was a girl. He really seemed to want boys, to someday grow up and travel the world with him (he says this in a You Tube Video), and they would all admire him - because he's the man!
I still can't understand what they saw in Grant!
Laura thought she and Grant were married but he never signed the marriage certificate, I don't recall when Laura became aware of that little fraud he perpetrated on her but one of her friends testified about it.
Something has been bothering me, when Amanda testifed and said Lily had a 'poopy' diaper and she came out of the bedroom to get a fresh diaper, it just didn't seem like she was saying she had brought Lily with her, she said she stopped behind Grant and picked up the paper that Laura slid across the table to him and read it, then suddenly Lily is in Amanda's arms because Laura starts talking about how pretty she is. Does anyone else get the feeling that maybe Lily was not in her arms when she came out of the bedroom and the rap about Laura getting up because she wants to hold Lily and trips on the carpet is a bunch-a-bull? That maybe Amanda came out of the room and 'hurt her, hurt her bad'?
After watching Dr. Calloway's testimony again, she mentions she interviewed Grant's parents. They, too, wanted Laura obliterated, or erased as the judge forced Calloway to say. She notes they were insensitive to child attachment issues. They were absent during Grant's trial, and they don't appear at this trial until they perceive that Amanda is making Grant look bad (Lol, as if he looked good up until that point). I'm glad she flew in from Kinston to read the letters, but also find it so very odd at the same time.
When Calloway asked Grant how he made a living, he said that he was the CEO of Grant Haze Ltd., and he employed Amanda and Sha. He said he was supporting five people! Amanda stated that Grant brought in a few dollars here and there, and she had to pawn her jewelry for the custody evaluation. So, I get the impression that Amanda was no wallflower, she spoke her mind.
Amanda on the stand with the baby talk, saying she's never seen, heard or thought about the custody fight - she was just trying to get Grant and Laura to get along! She has the nerve to testify that they were upset that the custody hearing was taking so long, yet they were the ones causing the delays and trying to sabotage the evaluation. With no money, they somehow hired a new attorney and child psychologist in the middle of the evaluation.
As everyone here notices what a liar she is, hoping the jury took copious notes.
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh: Kinston sounds like a Mayberry sort of town to me, but then again, I'm not a big artist and actress from NYC (I'm thinking Green Acres here, Amanda playing the Eva Gabor role)
I was particularly struck by her mean comments, too. I wouldn't have been "wooed" by that comment.
By the way, not sure of the rules about posting a link, but maybe you could tell me if this is ok: I found the obituary of Amanda's mother. The short description of her life is very telling, and Amanda is the mirror image of her mother. I can't even remember how I tracked it down, and I don't want to take the time to go back to square one here to see if it's been posted.
Sleuthing family members isn't allowed, but I would think that posting an obituary is okay.
Ok. I'll remove it (or it will be removed, lol) if it's improper. I hope I did this right.
http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20110612/NEWS07/706129900/-1/s
Ok. I'll remove it (or it will be removed, lol) if it's improper. I hope I did this right.
http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20110612/NEWS07/706129900/-1/s
Thanks! There was a lot of instability in Amanda's life when she was growing up. At the age of 3-4 she lived with her sister Karen. Again, in high school she lived with her sister Karen. Sha also lived with Karen at some point. It looks like Amanda's mother had three marriages and three divorces. We know that towards the end of her mom's life (in her sixties), Amanda moved her mom to Texas, then moved her into a smaller house so she could sell the house she inherited, then she got fed up with Texas and asked a sister to look after her mom, then she sold all the property she had in Texas and her mom returned to New Mexico. I think that her family must have thought that she was providing for their mom, but the reality is that Amanda needed someone to live in the property and pay the bills while she was away. As soon as she wanted to sell the property, she put her mom on the street. That's most likely why she was not mentioned in the Will.
Amanda sure went through a lot of money in a short period of time - living the high life while it lasted. There were properties, companies, sections of land and a life insurance police. She could have been set for life if she had lived within her means and used some common sense.
I hope that Sha is okay in the long run.
I misunderstood about the husbands.
Husband 1: high school; 17-18.
Husband 2: Lawyer; 22-26 (lasted one year, friends for four)
Husband 3: Irrigation Company; 32? (large inheritance)
Husband 4: Grant the Murderer; 38? (convicted criminals)
Can we fill in the years? I wonder if she had any contact with the children from the Irrigation Company marriage after the diving accident. She had a few tears when she mentioned him, but I suspect that she was crying for herself.
First, you're right about AH not getting pregnant until fall 2010. She was not pregnant with Lily when she left the VI.
AH told some very flagrant lies. She screwed up. The jurors were studying her very intently, and taking notes, watching her constantly. They are very engaged.
I was thinking today that if AH had admitted the truth about being an accessory after the fact, it may have served her better. Because I don't see how the jury could ever believe that she did not know that Laura was dead. But because she lied about that, and was caught in several other big lies, I hope they will see that since she lied about the accessory charge, she's lying about it all.
If she had said "yes I helped after GH killed Laura," but proceeded with the "not being involved in the murder" lies she told on the stand, she might have gained more credibility and she might have done just a short sentence for accessory. But she had to go for the gold, so to speak, pleading not guilty to everything. I hope it bites her in the azz.
I think the murder was premeditated but intended to be done earlier that day, somehow, but then Laura was late. I do believe Berakat, that AH said "it wasn't supposed to happen like that." I also believe that AH is the one who killed Laura, and that the murder was her idea, but that it happened not the way they originally planned.
I think AH told the truth for quite a bit of her testimony. It's when she throws in "so, anyway"...(blink blink blink) that she lies, and also when she looks down to the left when she's pulling from her fictitious version. But it seems she throws in a lot of true details, too.
And I'm saying again: the FBI lady was wrong IMO because Laura did not write that note, not under duress, not at all. It's forged, specifically traced from words from the prior hand written legal order John Sergeant referred to in his testimony. It looks obviously forged to me due to its odd spacing between words and phrases and Sergeant's name is even spelled wrong. Becky has also alluded to this, IMO, but they had to call that FBI witness so as not to appear to be hiding evidence. JMO. AH and GH came up with the plan to feed Laura to the gators and have the police believe that she ran off with $25K by having that bogus agreement handy in their apartment. Yeah, right, $25K. "Well, duh."
Also, too, Amanda testified that her old boyfriend was stalking her and scaring her, and she made a decision to get herself and Sha out of that situation pronto-stat. This wasn't her first assumed rodeo of being around a controlling/obsessed freak.
Closing arguments are going to be crucial here, IMO. Paint the big picture about Amanda and do not dwell on tiny details.