NC NC - Northampton Co, Christmas Doe, Blk/WhtFem, UP2196, 4-7, near I-95 rest area, Dec'83

[Seifsister]

Message received from Clyde Gibbs:

Here case is in NamUs but not public without a case# or NCIC# in order for NCMEC to take it. I know because I entered her and NCMEC has contacted me.

 

[Seifsister]

I can only say that dna was taken last week from a North Carolina family of a missing child that was never reported missing. She went missing after 1960. I pray the family gets answers.

 

[webrocket]

if this case had a fraction of the attention as the current one from Maine, who knows how quickly it might have been solved.

I looked at the Namus page for Christmas Doe and there are still just 2 rule-outs.

 

[Seifsister]

if this case had a fraction of the attention as the current one from Maine, who knows how quickly it might have been solved.

I looked at the Namus page for Christmas Doe and there are still just 2 rule-outs.

The two rule out are from direct compairison. It will not include any rule out from codis.

 

[Odyssey]

There is a better reconstruction now.

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/2196


I am currently looking into Hattie Jackson:

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/18970/0/

I have sent an email to Hattie's LE contact to see if they know of any fractures that might match up to this UID, and also asked if DNA and/or dentals are available.

The only photo I could find of Hattie is a grainy, copy-of-a-newspaper photo so it's hard to compare the features, but I thought it was worth a shot.

 

[Seifsister]

Christmas Doe's remains had been in the area from 1-5 years.

 

[Odyssey]

Christmas Doe's remains had been in the area from 1-5 years.

Since a ruleout was done on Phyllis Powell, I have to believe that they thought early 1960's were possible...

 

[sloane7777]

It also says on her myspace page that her DNA is in CODIS, so it should be easy to rule some children out, if their DNA is also in CODIS. The area where she was found is right off of I-95, so she could be from anywhere on the east coast.

I remember this she was found RIGHT behind a rest stop, right?

 

[Seifsister]

Yes Phyllis Powell was ruled out but Christmas Doe skull was looked at and it the time period was shortened to up to five years. Yes her remains were found behind the rest stop on 95. We went out to the area were she was found and it is a real swampy area. The rest area was redone in the 90's and updated.

 

[Seifsister]

Just to explain more on Christmas Doe. Her remains were stored at the college in Charlotte for Many years. From the report done at the time her remains were found it was estimated her remains had been there at least one year if not longer. Clyde requested for her remains to be sent back to the ME office . Her remains were DNA tested and her skull was relooked at and than her skull was sent to NCMEC for a digital reconstruction. When her remains were found it was not know if she was a male or a female until the dna test were completed. I worked with the Powell family and I work with the ME office for possible matches. We are looking for children missing within a five year periord before 1983. I just wanted to explain. Thanks

 

[sloane7777]

Just to explain more on Christmas Doe. Her remains were stored at the college in Charlotte for Many years. From the report done at the time her remains were found it was estimated her remains had been there at least one year if not longer. Clyde requested for her remains to be sent back to the ME office . Her remains were DNA tested and her skull was relooked at and than her skull was sent to NCMEC for a digital reconstruction. When her remains were found it was not know if she was a male or a female until the dna test were completed. I worked with the Powell family and I work with the ME office for possible matches. We are looking for children missing within a five year periord before 1983. I just wanted to explain. Thanks

Thank you for this, makes it totally clear! Now can you do that with every thread your a good summer upper LOL:blowkiss:

 

[Seifsister]

https://www.facebook.com/ChristmasJaneDoe

 

[Fuuro]

Hattie E. Jackson:


Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

Missing Since: July 21, 1961 from Washington, D.C.
Classification: Endangered Missing
Age: 6 years old
Distinguishing Characteristics: African-American female. Black hair, brown eyes.
Clothing/Jewelry Description: A white long-sleeved blouse, brown and white checkered shorts, pink sandals and a blue hair ribbon.


Details of Disappearance

Hattie was last seen in Washington, D.C. on July 21, 1961. That afternoon she, her older brother and some friends went to Rock Creek Park to play. They were swimming the creek when a police officer told them the water was polluted and they could not swim there. An unidentified man was sitting nearby and, after the officer left, he offered to drive the children to another place two miles away where the water was clean and they could swim. The children declined his offer and resumed playing. Then Hattie disappeared, and no one noticed her leave. She has never been heard from again.
Several witnesses reported seeing Hattie being helped into a dull blue/gray older model car with dark-colored license plates near Rock Creek Park. The driver of the car matched the description of the man who offered to take Hattie and her friends for a ride. He was Caucasian, in his thirties, with short brown hair, and wore a white shirt, gray trousers and a black belt. This person has never been identified and it hasn't been established whether he was involved in Hattie's disappearance.

An extensive search of the area turned up no sign of Hattie. Her case remains unsolved.



Investigating Agency
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
Washington D.C. Metropolitan Police Department
202-727-9099

This case was added to the Charley Project today. This girl had been missing for 22 years before the skull was found, but nothing was ever said about the elapse of time.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/jackson_hattie.html

 

[MadeaBecBec]

Need to look into this little one; http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/magee_sherise.html or https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4909
Her case file wasn't added until 2010 and not much info and quite a distance away, but.....

 

[Seifsister]

Looks as if DNA has been collected in this child's case so it will just be a matter of time once her DNA in ran though CODIS if there is a hit.

Need to look into this little one; http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/magee_sherise.html or https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4909
Her case file wasn't added until 2010 and not much info and quite a distance away, but.....

 

[Seifsister]

They felt that Jane Doe had only been in that area for five years or less. If she had been there since 1961 out in the elements there would not be as much left has there was.

Hattie E. Jackson:


Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

Missing Since: July 21, 1961 from Washington, D.C.
Classification: Endangered Missing
Age: 6 years old
Distinguishing Characteristics: African-American female. Black hair, brown eyes.
Clothing/Jewelry Description: A white long-sleeved blouse, brown and white checkered shorts, pink sandals and a blue hair ribbon.


Details of Disappearance

Hattie was last seen in Washington, D.C. on July 21, 1961. That afternoon she, her older brother and some friends went to Rock Creek Park to play. They were swimming the creek when a police officer told them the water was polluted and they could not swim there. An unidentified man was sitting nearby and, after the officer left, he offered to drive the children to another place two miles away where the water was clean and they could swim. The children declined his offer and resumed playing. Then Hattie disappeared, and no one noticed her leave. She has never been heard from again.
Several witnesses reported seeing Hattie being helped into a dull blue/gray older model car with dark-colored license plates near Rock Creek Park. The driver of the car matched the description of the man who offered to take Hattie and her friends for a ride. He was Caucasian, in his thirties, with short brown hair, and wore a white shirt, gray trousers and a black belt. This person has never been identified and it hasn't been established whether he was involved in Hattie's disappearance.

An extensive search of the area turned up no sign of Hattie. Her case remains unsolved.



Investigating Agency
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
Washington D.C. Metropolitan Police Department
202-727-9099

This case was added to the Charley Project today. This girl had been missing for 22 years before the skull was found, but nothing was ever said about the elapse of time.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/jackson_hattie.html

 

[Kymistry35]

Any news?

 

[Browser&Blue]

Has anyone delved deeper into the Yohanna Cyr case?

Her mother thinks the father possibly sold her, so it isn't that far of a long shot to think she could end up in NC.....

 

[JerseyGirl]

http://www.morganton.com/gallery/no..._fbc25a89-9899-5f97-9444-556d5b9be839.html#20

 

[sloane7777]

Thank you Jerseygirl! that awful recon I'm sure was hampering the investigation (sorry whoever drew it ) was Nikole a rule out (I'm blocked here at work) its logical to think this was a "go to another state and drop off" and Nikole's Dad and step mom did just that Moved to another state! it looks much more like her in this likness