Found Deceased ND - Savanna Lafontaine-Greywind, 22, pregnant, Fargo, 19 Aug 2017 #1 *Arrests*

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Anyone have any theories other than Savannah being murdered? Just curious.......................
 
FlossyMay said:
I think the dogs hit on the abandoned vehicle at the apartment building, but nothing was found through forensics.
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Do we know if they were scent tracking dogs or human remains search dogs? I am always fascinated and have so many questions about these dogs. I wonder if, hypothetically, they were keeping the baby in the car, if the dog would alert. Since her baby lived in her, would the baby smell like her? Would a tracking dog tracking her smell go to somewhere the baby had been kept?

If it was a dog trained to find remains, would it alert to something that was part of the clean up? Like say the ones who did this stashed a bag of bloody rags in there temporarily but it was removed before the car was searched. Would the dog alert?

Or if it was a scent tracking dog and they temporarily hid Savanna's non-bloody clothing in the car, would the dog find the scent even if the stuff was gone?
 
Knox said:
Fargo Police Department

1 hr ·

****Message from the Chief****
Yesterday, detectives using information gathered through interviews and the search warrant; used a team of searchers to comb a grove of trees and a cornfield by Dilworth.

Detectives also went to several locations to gather video from private surveillance cameras in businesses that may tell us where suspects may have been during the critical hours surrounding Savanna Greywind's disappearance. They are methodically going through hours of video in an attempt to find answers.

We brought in specially trained K9 teams from Minneapolis yesterday to search specific areas we've targeted through information we've gathered. They will continue those searches today.
We also have a team of detectives responding to the many calls coming through our tipline to do immediate follow-up on all possible leads.

As I said in my press conference yesterday, we are asking the public to assist us by checking their properties, garages and outbuildings. Also to look in dumpsters. Please respect the rights of private property owners while you are doing this.

If you do find something, please call us immediately through our dispatch center. If you have information you wish to share with us, please call our tipline at 701 235-7335.
Chief David Todd
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Thanks, Knox!
 
Oregonmama said:
Anyone have any theories other than Savannah being murdered? Just curious.......................
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If she were closer to her due date, or had been having signs of preterm labor, and the ones who did this were upstanding people in the community, I could potentially be led to believe that maybe she didn't want the baby but couldn't put it up for adoption the traditional way so she gave it away and left home. I would love for that to be the case in this situation, but I suppose the ones in jail would have said that by now.
 
SuperTmo said:
Do we know if they were scent tracking dogs or human remains search dogs? I am always fascinated and have so many questions about these dogs. I wonder if, hypothetically, they were keeping the baby in the car, if the dog would alert. Since her baby lived in her, would the baby smell like her? Would a tracking dog tracking her smell go to somewhere the baby had been kept?

If it was a dog trained to find remains, would it alert to something that was part of the clean up? Like say the ones who did this stashed a bag of bloody rags in there temporarily but it was removed before the car was searched. Would the dog alert?

Or if it was a scent tracking dog and they temporarily hid Savanna's non-bloody clothing in the car, would the dog find the scent even if the stuff was gone?
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Iirc it was a cadaver dog that alerted to the car.

Yes I think such a dog would alert to it even if something had been there that was then removed before the dog came in.
 
Has anyone seen personal information on the monsters being repeated anywhere? Do they work? Have any friends or relatives in the area?
 
Oregonmama said:
Anyone have any theories other than Savannah being murdered? Just curious.......................
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IF the perps somehow managed to cause her to have a vaginal birth OR have some access to an unscrupulous Dr who could perform a safe C-section... MAYBE they kept her alive and trafficked her or are holding her alive at an undisclosed site for unknown reasons. BUT, I DO NOT really think this is the case at all. It would mean many more people are involved and police said at the press conference they believe they have the only 2 people responsible for Savanna's disappearance. I will be shocked if she is alive. IMO, there is no way on earth she gave birth early and gave the baby to the suspects then ran away. She was happy and shopping for baby clothes the night before.
 
Oregonmama said:
Anyone have any theories other than Savannah being murdered? Just curious.......................
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I'm curious too simply because of the texting in the beginning. Where was Savanna's mom when she received the text about going to try on the dress? Maybe she was at work? But she ended up having to take the brother to work because Savanna hadn't returned. That was disturbing to me. It doesn't seem it would be easy to remove an unconscious pregnant woman from an apartment building even at night with just 2 people.
 
Continuing prayers for Savanna.

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Knox said:
Has anyone seen personal information on the monsters being repeated anywhere? Do they work? Have any friends or relatives in the area?
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It is my understanding from info I received from neighbors yesterday that the two worked together at a Subway in Fargo. Co-workers reported BC telling people she was going to have a baby even though she obviously did not look pregnant.


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Bootsctr said:
Off topic: You've probably read that Scott is trying to get a new trial! Family says the original responding officers reported they did NOT smell bleach! Gotta call lunabiscuits to that!

Regarding Savanna and baby Hazley (Haisley ? I'm seeing it spelled many different ways), this had to be premeditated. And with babies there's always diapers and bottles and formula. Where was this woman hiding all the baby stuff?

A poster had a good suggestion yesterday regarding Savanna changing into the "dress" in the bathroom and perhaps that is where she was subdued. Maybe she was struck in the head and there was some blood from a head wound? It could be possible they took her somewhere else to take the baby, and like somebody else posted there is a secondary crime scene.

I know Savanna's mother mentioned that Savanna was uncomfortable and had some swelling which is to be expected, but could she have had some mild preeclampsia? Would that cause her to go into early labor in addition to the trauma of being attacked?

At 8 months Savanna was probably seeing her OB-GYN on a weekly basis. I'm so happy the baby is doing so well.

I don't know if the 2 perps are aware yet, but they just fast-forwarded themselves to the list of most hated people on the planet by taking Baby Hazley! Right up there with Scott Peterson and Drew Peterson!
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I saw! Have you watched the ridiculous tv doc they did on the case. I was ready to jump into the tv to smack the smirk off Lee Ps face. I was immediately drawn to SLGs case because her smile reminded me of Laci. Both gorgeous in their late pregnancies. Do you think these two lunabuscuits (love that!) had help? Moving a subdued pregnant woman in an apartment building had to draw attention.


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Stickdino said:
It is my understanding from info I received from neighbors yesterday that the two worked together at a Subway in Fargo. Co-workers reported BC telling people she was going to have a baby even though she obviously did not look pregnant.


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Thank you! The thought of them touching something I would eat, ugh!!! Interesting, I wonder how long she had been saying she was pregnant? How long was it planned?
 
Stickdino said:
It is my understanding from info I received from neighbors yesterday that the two worked together at a Subway in Fargo. Co-workers reported BC telling people she was going to have a baby even though she obviously did not look pregnant.


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Good. This will help establishing premeditation.
 
I believe they probably got her out of the building and to the parking lot with some kind of ruse, even before she had climbed the stairs up. Maybe BC said she needed to get her bag with sewing stuff from the car or something. I think they forced her or incapacitated her somehow somewhere between her own apartment and the parking lot, and WH (or both of them) drove her to a second location. BC then returned to the apartment as we know because she answered the door when Savanna's father knocked at ~ 2.30 pm. I don't think anything happened in that apartment or that Savanna was even in there.
 
Elainera said:
I believe they probably got her out of the building and to the parking lot with some kind of ruse, even before she had climbed the stairs up. Maybe BC said she needed to get her bag with sewing stuff from the car or something. I think they forced her or incapacitated her somehow somewhere between her own apartment and the parking lot, and WH (or both of them) drove her to a second location. BC then returned to the apartment as we know because she answered the door when Savanna's father knocked at ~ 2.30 pm. I don't think anything happened in that apartment or that Savanna was even in there.
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I'm leaning toward this theory this as well. The sounds in the bathroom could be from BC cleaning something they used to abduct Savanna or BC washing out her own clothes if she didn't want to take them to the laundry room where she might be seen.
 
Pocono Sleuther said:
I saw! Have you watched the ridiculous tv doc they did on the case. I was ready to jump into the tv to smack the smirk off Lee Ps face. I was immediately drawn to SLGs case because her smile reminded me of Laci. Both gorgeous in their late pregnancies. Do you think these two lunabuscuits (love that!) had help? Moving a subdued pregnant woman in an apartment building had to draw attention.


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What in the world is a lunabuscuit?
 
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