Found Deceased NE - Sydney Loofe, 24, Lincoln, 15 Nov 2017 #2

[Shiressleuth]

From the Beatrice Daily Sun, November 28, 2017:

Last week, Saline County Attorney Tad Eickman obtained an arrest warrant for Trail accusing him of being a felon in possession of a firearm between Sept. 1, 2017, and Nov. 20, 2017, according to court records. The warrant includes a habitual criminal charge because Trail has previous felony convictions in Nebraska for forgery and issuing bad checks.

Does this mean he got rid of the gun on the 20th November - 4 days after Sydney's disappearance?

 

[Bit of hope]

Maybe LE or the coroner will share the cause of death...

 

[Inthedetails]

AT is a convicted felon and can't go to most if not all other countries. BB had a warrant which would also make it hard for her to cross the border. Also these 2 seem incredibly arrogant (especially AT) and most likely thought they'd never even come close to being caught. JMO

Why they haven't been charged yet? Who knows, probably because they have them on federal charges/no bail and there's no need to rush the investigation and they can take their time and make sure there's no holes in the investigation etc

Murder charges usually don't happen before the autopsy is complete.

And since they are behind bars anyway, like GoJacks said, there is no rush.

 

[GoJacks]

On Friday, Zwart ruled that both were flight risks and should remain in federal custody, citing the recent search for them. Boswell had said she was going to leave the country, Zwart’s order says, and Trail had arranged for the purchase of a gun despite his felony record.

http://www.mdjonline.com/neighbor_n...cle_df5ccc7b-f67b-53d5-817b-a430c39a2367.html

Does anyone know if this means he was denied the gun purchase? Or he purchased and they couldn't find said gun?? Anyone?

 

[GoJacks]

Does this mean he got rid of the gun on the 20th November - 4 days after Sydney's disappearance?

Oh wow I never saw those dates. So possibly purchased the gun on 10/1 and RESOLD on 11/20? ....but really is he THAT much of an idiot to resell a gun he potentially used in a homicide?

 

[molly1255]

Does this mean he got rid of the gun on the 20th November - 4 days after Sydney's disappearance?

My thoughts are - yes. This is pure speculation on my part, but the dates are quite specific on the possession warrant, per this news article. I am assuming that LE has evidence to show that AT purchased or took possession of a firearm on September 1st.

As for no longer possessing the firearm after November 20th, I believe LE must have something specific that shows evidence of this. Do we know when LE identified AT and BB as POI's and when contact was made? In the one video, AT stated that the Lincoln police (I believe) called "Katie" who was BB's supposed sometime gf and told her she was in danger, so AT and BB took Katie home.

I don't believe that Katie exists, however, I do think the Lincoln police were in contact with AT and BB and were asking a LOT of questions about the whereabouts of SL. If the contacts with LE began within days of SL's disappearance, I imagine AT and BB were quite anxious to get rid of the firearm, especially if the firearm was used to murder SL.

If AT disposed of the firearm, how would LE know, and in particular, how would they know the date? The only thing I can think of is there might be an eyewitness who saw him get rid of the firearm. I wouldn't be surprised at all if AT and BB were under surveillance after LE identified them as POI's.

 

[Jessica32]

Here is what they might be doing with the flags based on my work using metal detectors on archeological surveys. There would be one person or line of people with metal detectors who would walk through and flag any hits that they got with the detector. Then another group would come by to check the hits. Along a highway, I'm sure that there is quite a bit of metal that would be detected that would be irrelevant to the case. This strategy would lead to a lot of flags being placed along that stretch. Like I said, that's what we did in archeology. It could be completely different in law enforcement.

 

[GoJacks]

If AT disposed of the firearm, how would LE know, and in particular, how would they know the date? The only thing I can think of is there might be an eyewitness who saw him get rid of the firearm. I wouldn't be surprised at all if AT and BB were under surveillance after LE identified them as POI's.

That makes sense! Thanks

 

[molly1255]

This is the first article I could find in the Lincoln Journal Star that reported Sydney as missing. It is dated November 19th. I believe Sydney's mother reported her as missing on November 16th.

By November 19th, it appears the Lincoln police knew Sydney's cell phone last pinged in Wilber. My guess is LE had already identified BB as the Tinder date. By this date, LE may also have made contact with both BB and AT and were asking them lots of questions about Sydney's whereabouts. I would not be surprised if LE also had them under surveillance by this time. JMO.

http://journalstar.com/news/local/9...cle_a875e193-ed75-559a-9bd4-7a67c58c65b0.html

 

[molly1255]

On Friday, Zwart ruled that both were flight risks and should remain in federal custody, citing the recent search for them. Boswell had said she was going to leave the country, Zwart’s order says, and Trail had arranged for the purchase of a gun despite his felony record.

http://www.mdjonline.com/neighbor_n...cle_df5ccc7b-f67b-53d5-817b-a430c39a2367.html

Does anyone know if this means he was denied the gun purchase? Or he purchased and they couldn't find said gun?? Anyone?

It is really hard to say! The Beatrice newspaper article that I posted was very specific and said the warrant was for AT being a felon in possession of a firearm from September 1 - November 20. I will see if I can find what other news reports state about the warrant and will post what I find.

 

[molly1255]

Here we go - the Lincoln Journal Star also reported court records showed AT was a felon in possession of a firearm from September 1 through November 20. Since this article cites "court records" as the source for the information and so does the Beatrice news article that I posted earlier, I'm leaning toward this being correct.

http://journalstar.com/news/local/9...cle_57ae3c46-e281-5c09-aba3-c8c173dc3003.html

 

[Barb Wire]

I believe she went missing on the night of the 15th and didn't show to work on the 16th of November

 

[molly1255]

Just watched the second video posted by AT and BB. In that video, AT claims the warrant for possession of a firearm is because of a weapon "found". Very interesting!

 

[Shiressleuth]

My thoughts are - yes. This is pure speculation on my part, but the dates are quite specific on the possession warrant, per this news article. I am assuming that LE has evidence to show that AT purchased or took possession of a firearm on September 1st.

As for no longer possessing the firearm after November 20th, I believe LE must have something specific that shows evidence of this. Do we know when LE identified AT and BB as POI's and when contact was made? In the one video, AT stated that the Lincoln police (I believe) called "Katie" who was BB's supposed sometime gf and told her she was in danger, so AT and BB took Katie home.

I don't believe that Katie exists, however, I do think the Lincoln police were in contact with AT and BB and were asking a LOT of questions about the whereabouts of SL. If the contacts with LE began within days of SL's disappearance, I imagine AT and BB were quite anxious to get rid of the firearm, especially if the firearm was used to murder SL.

If AT disposed of the firearm, how would LE know, and in particular, how would they know the date? The only thing I can think of is there might be an eyewitness who saw him get rid of the firearm. I wouldn't be surprised at all if AT and BB were under surveillance after LE identified them as POI's.

AT said they were on the phone to LE for 3 hours on the 22nd. And LE told Katie she should go home as it was dangerous for her. Perhaps Katie phoned LE under instruction of AT and BB? Katie may have later told LE he got rid of the gun and where/how on the 20th. AT said they took her home on the 22nd. Was she some sort of hostage perhaps? AJMO

 

[Shiressleuth]

Just watched the second video posted by AT and BB. In that video, AT claims the warrant for possession of a firearm is because of a weapon "found". Very interesting!

Maybe they found a gun buried in the back yard, not a phone. :crying:

 

[Jethro4WS]

It is really hard to say! The Beatrice newspaper article that I posted was very specific and said the warrant was for AT being a felon in possession of a firearm from September 1 - November 20. I will see if I can find what other news reports state about the warrant and will post what I find.

I believe that November 20th is also the same day the warrant was filed. So the date range is that the warrant alleges Aubrey was in continuous possession of a firearm from September 1st through the warrant being filed. I don't think it indicates that LE knew at that time whether or not Aubrey was still in possession of the firearm.

 

[Inthedetails]

I believe that November 20th is also the same day the warrant was filed. So the date range is that the warrant alleges Aubrey was in continuous possession of a firearm from September 1st through the warrant being filed. I don't think it indicates that LE knew at that time whether or not Aubrey was still in possession of the firearm.

That's my impression as well, fwiw.

jmo

 

[Moshimo]

Here is the gun warrant explanation given in what I believe was the first LE press conference..
https://www.facebook.com/10155995030094250

and my transcription of relevant portions with times..
14:17 "There are outstanding warrants for Bailey Boswell for possession of some type of narcotic, I don't know off the top of my head? And thene there is a Saline County Distrcit Court warrant for Aubrey Trail for possession of a firearm by a prohibited person."
16:31 When asked "The warrant out of Saline County, is it active?" Le replied..
"Yeah.. Again.. The information that was relayed by Aubrey Trail on Facebook would suggest that the warrant was issued and then canceled. That's accurate. It was issued, canceled, then re-issued as a result of a bond, the, the dollar amount that is required for him to, to post bond. That's.. so it's a process, an administrative process issue tht he is referring to but (yeah) the warrant is active."

 

[molly1255]

I believe that November 20th is also the same day the warrant was filed. So the date range is that the warrant alleges Aubrey was in continuous possession of a firearm from September 1st through the warrant being filed. I don't think it indicates that LE knew at that time whether or not Aubrey was still in possession of the firearm.

That is entirely possible. I think AT was less than truthful when he made the videos, but in the first video, I believe, he said (not exact) that the warrant (for possession of the firearm) came about because a weapon was found. He claimed he didn't have a gun in his house.

AT also claimed that LE searched the apartment in Wilber. This would have been around the 20th, I believe. I don't know the exact date, and am only going by what AT said in the video. He's not exactly a reliable source.

 

[Yougottabekiddingme]

My thoughts are - yes. This is pure speculation on my part, but the dates are quite specific on the possession warrant, per this news article. I am assuming that LE has evidence to show that AT purchased or took possession of a firearm on September 1st.

As for no longer possessing the firearm after November 20th, I believe LE must have something specific that shows evidence of this. Do we know when LE identified AT and BB as POI's and when contact was made? In the one video, AT stated that the Lincoln police (I believe) called "Katie" who was BB's supposed sometime gf and told her she was in danger, so AT and BB took Katie home.

I don't believe that Katie exists, however, I do think the Lincoln police were in contact with AT and BB and were asking a LOT of questions about the whereabouts of SL. If the contacts with LE began within days of SL's disappearance, I imagine AT and BB were quite anxious to get rid of the firearm, especially if the firearm was used to murder SL.

If AT disposed of the firearm, how would LE know, and in particular, how would they know the date? The only thing I can think of is there might be an eyewitness who saw him get rid of the firearm. I wouldn't be surprised at all if AT and BB were under surveillance after LE identified them as POI's.

Lots of speculation about the gun dates.

11/20 is simply the date they wrote the warrant. 9/1 is the first date they know of him to have the weapon. So they petition the court and say "at some point between 9/1 and 11/20 (TODAY) AT did possess a firearm.