Found Deceased Netherlands - Anne Faber, 25, Utrecht, 28 Sept 2017 *Arrest*

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I hear that Michael P. was an employee of the' forresters and landscapers' and was able to move around 'freely' during the day. Had to be indoors at 23:00 hours. #AnneFaber


BBM


This curfew of 23.00 hrs is very strange. Who will go weeding after sunset? Or cut trees? And where was his supervisor?

I do wonder if PRdV has this from a credible source.

I have wondered about a curfew, and why Michael P was allowed to be outside the facility unsupervised after dark. We know he was not restricted to being in the institution after dark because of the time that Anne vanished.

The Judge had it right in sentencing him to 16 years, the prosecutors had it wrong in requesting that the sentence be reduced to ten years, and the institution accreditation need to be reassessed for allowing this dangerous man unrestricted access to the community.
 
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I hear that Michael P. was an employee of the' forresters and landscapers' and was able to move around 'freely' during the day. Had to be indoors at 23:00 hours. #AnneFaber


BBM


This curfew of 23.00 hrs is very strange. Who will go weeding after sunset? Or cut trees? And where was his supervisor?

I do wonder if PRdV has this from a credible source.
I'm guessing since he's going to be a contributing member of society, he needs time to socialize, go out with friends or on dates[emoji19] (tongue in cheek)

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http://www.rtvutrecht.nl/nieuws/1677311/


DEN DOLDER - "I would be particularly naive to think that one can cycle here safely in the evening," Evert de Olde says. He lives near the Altrecht grounds where yesterday Michael P., a sex offender, was arrested for the disappearance of Anne Faber. For some time now, residents of Den Dolder have been troubled by the presence of criminals in the psychatric clinics in the village.

"My daughter of sixteen, and also my two daughters who have already left the home, grew up with the awareness that there are many people in the village who are on leave," according to De Olde. "Often you can tell it about them, for example, from their behaviour. As a parent, I find it difficult to find the balance. You want to protect and control your children, but also raise them in freedom.

Rob Zee of the Stakeholder Association Den Dolder says that psychiatric patients in the village are not the problem. "Of course they have been there for a hundred years," Zee says. "In the institution, confused people are living. You sometimes have problems with them, and the fact that two Altrecht patients were behind that series of car fires was, of course, terrible. But what is happening now is not acceptable.

Zee refers to the forensic departments, where convicted criminals reside. "These clinics have not been there for so long, only ten years or so. These people should be much more closely monitored. If Altrecht had looked more closely at the past of that sex offender, they should have reacted a little differently. The village is very sad about that.

Antonia Vos-Hoogsteden, a slightly older resident of Den Dolder, agrees. According to her, the danger does not come so much from psychiatric patients. "When the weather is fine, I see them walking around with their supervisor. I have never had any problems with that. But if this happens, you're starting to think about it: where is this going?

Mrs Vos says that she feels increasingly unsafe these days. "Crime has increased enormously, I think, after all. I have everything locked up all day long.

"We're used to quite a lot here," De Olde tells,"and most of the local residents are sympathetic to the boys with limited freedoms you see walking in the village. Surely they have to go back to society. It would be difficult to send them to Siberia.

But there are riots regularly in the village, he describes. "People with severe abnormal behaviour. I myself also intervened a few times when a boy was bothering others. You cannot let that kind of guys walk outside freely, those guys can't handle the freedom."

He does not let his daughters walk or cycle through the village alone in the evening. "We bring and fetch them as much as possible. Even though they know fairly well what to do if something happens, you can't train them against such people. That really is a problem."

Rob Zee of the interest group wants more discussion about the presence of criminals in the village. Now that it seems that Michael P. is involved in the disappearance of 25-year-old Anne Faber, enough is enough.

An evening about safety was cancelled this morning. The locals of Den Dolder are disappointed, but the police want to focus their attention and efforts on finding Anne Faber.

Mayor Koos Janssen did not want to address the concerns of the local residents near Altrecht in front of RTV Utrecht.


BBM
 
I'm guessing since he's going to be a contributing member of society, he needs time to socialize, go out with friends or on dates[emoji19] (tongue in cheek)

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Apparently, there is a lot of socializing going on with drug dealers. It is said that MP was living in an area with a fence, but someone who used to live there, told on the radio that it was very easy to jump that fence and everybody did just that.
 
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Police Utrecht

Fences and machines are ready, should they be needed in the near future in field investigations around clinic. #AnneFaber


BBM
 
Apparently, there is a lot of socializing going on with drug dealers. It is said that MP was living in an area with a fence, but someone who used to live there, told on the radio that it was very easy to jump that fence and everybody did just that.
OMG so who's watching these creatures?
Unbelievable, ugh!!!!!

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Apparently he was sentenced to 12 years in prison on appeal. He was serving the second part of his sentence with the focus of returning into society. Much is still unclear about this.

I briefly read the original sentence. The details are sickening, and there is a limit to what I'm willing to translate. This man should have been given a permanent psychiatric hospital order. If someone calls a double rape 'a dream come true' IMHO you know everthing you need to know about this person.

Yes, I agree....saying this was a dream come true stands out.....
 
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This is the ecoduct at Den Dolder, known hangout of residents of the psychiatric Within walking distance of the Aventurine clinic. Good shelter



BBM

How is it possible there are no lights and/or camera's, being known as an hangout? I live in The Netherlands and this kind of viaduct/ecoduct, make me very anxious....even with lights...for all the obvious reasons. And I really don't see danger everywhere....
 
ZaZara if it is not to much to ask...maybe you could translate a piece about how the law in this cases in The Netherlands work. As can be understood, people are outrages and have a lot of questions about how it is possible that this guy was "walking around"....
 
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Anne Faber.

What a wonderful girl, feel so much for her and her family. As we say in The Netherlands '"Hollands Glorie", quite typical Dutch beauty. TY ZaZara for keeping us sharp and for your efforts you put into this (and others). Good thoughts to everybody loving her.
 
ZaZara if it is not to much to ask...maybe you could translate a piece about how the law in this cases in The Netherlands work. As can be understood, people are outrages and have a lot of questions about how it is possible that this guy was "walking around"....

Eeeh... my problem is that I do not yet have clear how the law worked in this case, starting with the appeal and above all, why this man was in Altrecht and what he was doing there. I'm not sure that it all was as straightforward as is suggested by some.

This is the theory:

https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nederland/vrijheid-verkrachter-michael-p-moeilijk-uit-te-leggen

Earlier out of the prison cell: how does it actually work?

In the Netherlands, a person who has to serve a prison sentence of more than one year is in principle released after he or she has served two thirds of that sentence. That is called early release, or ER.

In order to ensure that the ER ultimately runs smoothly, a so-called detention phasing-out period can begin from 18 months before the prisoner is released. The convicted person goes from a closed institution (prison) to an increasingly 'freer' institution. This is part of the rehabilitation process.

During such a trajectory, the detainee is usually allowed to take accompanied and unaccompanied leave, in order to ensure that the ER runs smoothly at a later date.
Usually there are conditions attached to a ER, for example that the suspect may not have contact with or come close to his or her victim, must follow a compulsory course or be treated in a clinic.


In some cases, a convicted person may not be eligible for ER

- If the prisoner does not comply with the conditions
- If the risk is too high that the convicted person will commit (serious) violent crimes
- If a prisoner has seriously misbehaved during detention
- If the prisoner has made an escape attempt
- Or if the prisoner is in a clinic for the criminally insane and has not yet completed treatment

BBM

MP was convicted on appeal to 12 years in prison. 2/3 of 12 years is 8 years, so 18 months before those 8 years his ER might start.

Someone obviously wasn't thinking, and inspired all the rest. The locals from Den Dolder said as much.
 
This case is so incredibly dark and never should have happened. That tunnel makes it clear this program needs some review if that is where they go to "hang out"
 
Eeeh... my problem is that I do not yet have clear how the law worked in this case, starting with the appeal and above all, why this man was in Altrecht and what he was doing there. I'm not sure that it all was as straightforward as is suggested by some.

This is the theory:



BBM

MP was convicted on appeal to 12 years in prison. 2/3 of 12 years is 8 years, so 18 months before those 8 years his ER might start.

Someone obviously wasn't thinking, and inspired all the rest. The locals from Den Dolder said as much.
An extra four years in a prison is unlikely to have made a difference with this individual IMO. I'm thinking castration.
 
Photo of the suspect/rapist/killer Michael Panhuis

He deserves no privacy, not one bit.

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Thank you Denise. Do you have a link for the photo?
 
Some cases you just connect with, this is one. I really want her to turn up alive. She was just out enjoying the early evening on her bike. She should have been safe. It's just not fair. At this point I just hope she is found, I think she will be, he can't have taken her very far. I hope this case outrages her fellow citizens, given the history of her likely attacker. If his original sentence was upheld Anne would be alive today. Hard to fathom that the day the prosecutor put forward an appeal that in essence it signed Anne's death warrant. I w9nder how that individual feels today.

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On the day Anne Faber disappeared, September 29th, the mother of Michael P. had a birthday. It could have been a reason for granting leave to the man now suspected in the disappearance of the student. Several people reported to The Telegraph that Michael P. recently drove in his mother's car in Spakenburg. That would significantly increase the potential area in which Anne could be found. The car has been seized for a search.

The mother of P. works in Spakenburg. In this village, P. has been seen in her car. The police are unable to comment whether P. had permission to leave the clinic on September 29th. The Public Prosecutor and the Ministry of Justice will not comment.

https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/765670/auto-moeder-michael-p-in-beslag-genomen
 
He deserves to be hung or castrated absolutely.

It is very frustrating and outrageous how many times the system in lots of countries making every effort to consider in Evil people and give them lighter sentence, someone who commit such an heinous crime in 2010 and also Claimed it was the dream of his life should never see the light of day,
Anne disappearance is sad and heartbreaking ,It was obvious that this would happen and someone innocent will experience horror and pay with his/her life :(
It could have been avoided! this Kidnapping/murder is also on the hands of the the legal system, they will have to explain to the poor family why their beautiful dear daughter is missing and why they probably will not see her anymore alive.

I am sorry for the very Grim post , I just sick from the fact that sometimes Evil monsters get lighter sentence becouse as example..... someone took their ice-cream when they were young and from the trauma they start to rape and Kill.

"He deserves to be hung or castrated absolutely"

I totally agree.
 

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