New allegations: Baez also broke jail rules by secretly passing messages to Casey

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Cindy's letter to her Inmate daughter saying that the attorney can "no longer" GIVE or READ the mother's letters to the Inmate. They must go through proper channels, as they should have been doing all along, just like every other Inmate does.

Letters passed in secret could be utilized to:
- plot an escape
- plot to harm guards
- plot harm to a Prosecuting attorney or Judge
- attempt to influence potential witnesses in a trial to sway their testimony
- plot to harm witnesses who have testified against an Inmate
- attempt to obtain drugs or money
- plot to harm another Inmate housed in the same facility

It is a third degree felony for ANYONE to introduce written communication into a jail, or to an Inmate outside of the jail, no matter what the content of the written communication is. It is strictly forbidden. Not to be taken lightly.
 
Yesterday while watching the video of hearing I notice a sheriff walk behind Casey has she was putting down her pen. I say they are keeping eyes on her and notes.
Interesting... thank you
 
in jb mind ICA and him never do wrong...remember this is the guy that wanted the SA out because of their attitude (or something silly along that path)--he was also the one that stated that Lamar (can't remember the last name) was using this case as a "policial move" for his reelection....everything that is done that is following guidelines is mean and evil if it goes against their "plan"

He is also the man that got yelled at for touching ICA --- He is just made because there are to many suggestions of the passing of contrabad---doesn't look to good for an "officer of the court"---

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Yesterday while watching the video of hearing I notice a sheriff walk behind Casey has she was putting down her pen. I say they are keeping eyes on her and notes.
Interesting... thank you

I noticed that also. A guard walked behind the Defense table several times during that emergency hearing.
It is shameful, IMO, that guards must be hyper vigilant in watching this particular Inmate and her attorney for infractions of rules/laws during an official proceeding! Shows their total lack of respect for authority and the law.
 
Is it possible that charges have not been brought again JB because no one has ever 'caught' him passing letters back and forth? Thanks to ThinkTank, we can all now see exactly when and where everyone talks about letters being passed - but would that be considered hearsay and not admissable as evidence? I don't know the answer and hope one of you wise posters do.
 
Is it possible that charges have not been brought again JB because no one has ever 'caught' him passing letters back and forth? Thanks to ThinkTank, we can all now see exactly when and where everyone talks about letters being passed - but would that be considered hearsay and not admissable as evidence? I don't know the answer and hope one of you wise posters do.

I don't know the specific, legal answer ... but the Inmate herself wrote in what she thought were secret letters, to fellow Inmate Robyn that the attorney had smuggled in an "American Greeting card" and a "friendship bracelet" ... and sure enough, Robyn saved the American Greeting card and it was confiscated and added to Discovery in this case, and released through Sunshine laws.

I would think that statements from the Inmate herself when she thought her admissions were secret, and statements from the Inmate's mother when she thought she was writing a private letter to her Inmate daughter, and statements from an attorney/officer of the court, on national TV several times, and statements from the Inmate's brother in what he thought were private text messages to his parents, would be evidence enough that a third degree felony was committed - repeatedly.

It is rare to catch a person committing a crime while it is happening.
 
I am surprised the jail does not do pat downs after ANY physical contact the inmates may have.
 
I am surprised the jail does not do pat downs after ANY physical contact the inmates may have.

I agree.
Since the Inmate said she passed letters to her fellow Inmate Robyn by using a book ... I wonder if the attorney used the same tactic?
Also, the Inmate wrote that the attorney gave her "things" (paperwork) to take back (to her cell) and read, and then "teach him" what she had read. Wonder if the attorney smuggled some contraband in the "things" that might be considered legit for the Inmate to take back to her cell because they came from her attorney (attorney/client privilege type thing)? Maybe the guards did not look through paperwork which the attorney gave the Inmate?

http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf
page 129 "...My main attorney had been giving me a hard time, wanting me to "teach him" some of the things he's sent back with me to read. It's draining - Now I remember why I don't miss school!..."
 
Why oh why is no one getting busted for this?????
 
It chaps my butt knowing that JB was able to get away with passing letters back and forth to ICA and to her family. He knew it was wrong. And if he didn't, ignorance of the law is no excuse - yet he didn't even get a slap on the wrist.

Now that more letters have been released, can the Florida Bar re-open this issue and investigate JB further or is just a dead deal?
 
http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=CaseysaysparentsfiledBarComplaintBa.jpg

Inmate Casey Anthony writes in a secret letter to fellow Inmate Robyn, that her folks and their attorney (Brad Conway), have filed FL Bar Complaints against Jose Baez regarding his attempts to raise money for the defense.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf
page 74 - letter dated 4/1/09

"...my folks....their attorney....(bar complaints against Jose, wanting to raise $ for my defense, but they don't want my defense team knowing...)...."

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It chaps my butt knowing that JB was able to get away with passing letters back and forth to ICA and to her family. He knew it was wrong. And if he didn't, ignorance of the law is no excuse - yet he didn't even get a slap on the wrist.

Now that more letters have been released, can the Florida Bar re-open this issue and investigate JB further or is just a dead deal?

The FL Bar does not automatically investigate a matter -- someone, ANYONE, must first file an official FL Bar Complaint, and specifically write out what the particular complaint is and the evidence supporting the complaint, then the FL Bar will follow their own procedure for processing the complaint.
 
The FL Bar does not automatically investigate a matter -- someone, ANYONE, must first file an official FL Bar Complaint, and specifically write out what the particular complaint is and the evidence supporting the complaint, then the FL Bar will follow their own procedure for processing the complaint.
But Think Tank, I thought a complaint on this matter HAD been filed, no?
 
Originally Posted by ThinkTank
The FL Bar does not automatically investigate a matter -- someone, ANYONE, must first file an official FL Bar Complaint, and specifically write out what the particular complaint is and the evidence supporting the complaint, then the FL Bar will follow their own procedure for processing the complaint.

But Think Tank, I thought a complaint on this matter HAD been filed, no?

By whom? when?
Not that I know of. Not on this particular issue. (there have been other FL Bar Complaints against JB, on other issues)
Usually when a Bar Complaint is filed, it is NOT made public. It is kept confidential until the investigation is completed, and the results are made public.
 
I cannot decide what in the world is wrong with him, except that he just simply does not know.
Bringing to the judge's attention that his expert had some wrongdoing in another case, all the while he is asking for that person to be unfettered and unescorted with this evidence was...even for Jose...outrageous.

Bringing up letters when you know fully well your butt is going to be on the line for what...sneaking letters in and out of the jail...was professional suicide.

It is not even funny anymore. I am concerned the state may very well have to try this protracted case twice!!
 
Originally Posted by ThinkTank
The FL Bar does not automatically investigate a matter -- someone, ANYONE, must first file an official FL Bar Complaint, and specifically write out what the particular complaint is and the evidence supporting the complaint, then the FL Bar will follow their own procedure for processing the complaint.



By whom? when?
Not that I know of. Not on this particular issue. (there have been other FL Bar Complaints against JB, on other issues)
Usually when a Bar Complaint is filed, it is NOT made public. It is kept confidential until the investigation is completed, and the results are made public.

Alright, Thanks Think Tank. I think I just have the bar complaints jumbled up in my head, or just flat out making them up in my head.

There were 2 complaints, correct?

I knew that there was a complaint that JB misrepresented himself on his website by advertising misinformation information right? And that he got a smack down and was ordered to take classes - am I correct on that?

What was the other complaint that was filed? Was it for the inappropriate contact with ICA or do I have that wrong? I guess I was thinking the letters would fall under that, but guess not.

I probably need to find the bar complaint thread for this one! I do think I have things jumbled up in my head.

ETA: Okay, I did a search and yeppers - I've got things WRONG. It was Judge Strickland who filed one of the complaints, surrounding DC! Boy do I need a refresher course when it comes to info involving this case! Sorry!
 
I cannot decide what in the world is wrong with him, except that he just simply does not know.
Bringing to the judge's attention that his expert had some wrongdoing in another case, all the while he is asking for that person to be unfettered and unescorted with this evidence was...even for Jose...outrageous.

Bringing up letters when you know fully well your butt is going to be on the line for what...sneaking letters in and out of the jail...was professional suicide.

It is not even funny anymore. I am concerned the state may very well have to try this protracted case twice!!


ITA TWA.

I fear that as time goes on, the SA's office is going to find themselves between a rock and a hard place. I am wondering if they didn't just tell themselves these little "messes" JB deposits along the way can be overlooked, let's just keep our eye on prosecuting KC, then we will address JB. But if he keeps on as he did in the emergency hearing? At some point soon it will be a mess of colossal sorts that can't be overlooked. I'm not sure we aren't already there, but then I am just a lay person watching. His law breaking seems to me to be out of control (letter passing, smuggling of contraband, hugging + touching prisoner, etc), and his lack of experience and knowledge is "quick frankly" clear to us all (sorry I couldn't resist the quite frankly). But to acknowledge and address it at this point, the SA's would be sending all their hard work down the drain, not to mention it would push back KC's trial by ??? how long? No one wants that. I think they were of the mind of "let's just stay focused and remember what is most important = which is justice for Caylee in the form of prosecuting her murderer: KC".

However, JB's words and actions have become so reckless, his disregard for the law so obvious, that I think the SA's office is now wondering if they are going to get to trial before JB self destructs or does something they cannot turn a blind eye to.

This is not good........(shaking my head back and forth) it's just not good.

JMHO
:cow:
 
Originally Posted by ThinkTank
The FL Bar does not automatically investigate a matter -- someone, ANYONE, must first file an official FL Bar Complaint, and specifically write out what the particular complaint is and the evidence supporting the complaint, then the FL Bar will follow their own procedure for processing the complaint.



By whom? when?
Not that I know of. Not on this particular issue. (there have been other FL Bar Complaints against JB, on other issues)
Usually when a Bar Complaint is filed, it is NOT made public. It is kept confidential until the investigation is completed, and the results are made public.

RBBM, ThinkTank. I'm praying, then, that someone has already filed and we just don't know about it yet. If not, I hope the press and media keep this in the news and maybe that would move someone (who knows the ropes) to file.
 
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