NH NH - Allenstown, Adult Female & 3 Children, found Nov'85 & May'00

[Alleykins]

Maybe I can get Chief Nolan Richard to help. Are you interested in the Cherokee too?

Absolutely. I think the more people we can reach, the better. Thank you.

 

[KaylaraOwl]

Definitely!

 

[anonymess]

If someone is up for it, maybe try the aptn (Canadian Aboriginal TV and web news) too. Info@aptn.ca is the email address... I might be able to write them next week

 

[Owutatangledweb]

If someone is up for it, maybe try the aptn (Canadian Aboriginal TV and web news) too. Info@aptn.ca is the email address... I might be able to write them next week

I also found this tv station launched last Fall by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, serving several tribes:

http://www.pressrepublican.com/news...cle_8a880aed-3652-5988-9863-c347100aab58.html

Akwesasne Mohawks to launch own TV station
TAGS: New YorkNative NewsBusiness & FinanceMedia & JournalismSt. Regis Mohawk
A new television station serving the St. Regis Mohawk Indian nation and beyond will launch this week at Akwesasne. Akwesasne TV will begin broadcasting Friday, Oct. 2, through Akwesasne Broadband Network channel 2 and online at www.akwesasnetv.com, the St. Regis Mohawk Tribal Council said in a statement.

 

[Roselvr]

Thank you for that. When I went back and re-read what I originally wrote, it wasn't very clear.
The AG was asked if their DNA would be compared to offender lists, but he said they didn't have good enough DNA profiles and that the criminal registry was had a different protocol. I don't know if they used the most recent technology to determine their current profiles, just the ones available at the time, and I think it was a few years ago-at least that was when they announced they were doing the isotopes, like back in 2012 or 2013. If it's gotten better since then, I'd like to see them re-tested.

I was mistaken with what I was remembering.

http://500nations.com/tribes/Tribes_State-by-State.asp

http://www.formsofaddress.info/Councilman.html

Awesome link thank you sis!

 

[KaylaraOwl]

I just sent this message to the "Lost and Missing in Indian Country" Facebook page. Please feel free to copy and send out as needed.

Hello! I was wondering if you would please post the following reconstructions of a woman and three little girls found murdered who they believe are of Native American and Caucasian descent. Here are the pertinent links with information regarding this case.
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...5241472506626.36979.100000623241744&source=48
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Brook_murders
http://oakhillresearch.blogspot.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldoe/comments/4m0tg1/profile_12_allenstown_jane_does/
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Female-and-3-Children-found-Nov-85-amp-May-00

They believe that they died between 1980 and 1984. Their isotopes indicate that they may have been from the Dakotas, and also the extreme upper North Eastern U.S. Many people have been trying to search for their identities, but it doesn't appear that they have been reported missing. We do not believe anyone has contacted the Native American Tribes with this information. It is our hopes that someone will recognize one or all of them, so we can give them back their names and they can be returned to their family.

DNA suggests that all except the middle child are materially related.

Here is the isotope map.

Please let me know if you will pass this information around. I am currently compiling a list of tribal councils to contact and also a list of Native American publications and media.

Thank you for your time.

 

[Roselvr]

I just sent this message to the "Lost and Missing in Indian Country" Facebook page. Please feel free to copy and send out as needed.

Hello! I was wondering if you would please post the following reconstructions of a woman and three little girls found murdered who they believe are of Native American and Caucasian descent. Here are the pertinent links with information regarding this case.
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...5241472506626.36979.100000623241744&source=48
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Brook_murders
http://oakhillresearch.blogspot.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldoe/comments/4m0tg1/profile_12_allenstown_jane_does/
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Female-and-3-Children-found-Nov-85-amp-May-00

They believe that they died between 1980 and 1984. Their isotopes indicate that they may have been from the Dakotas, and also the extreme upper North Eastern U.S. Many people have been trying to search for their identities, but it doesn't appear that they have been reported missing. We do not believe anyone has contacted the Native American Tribes with this information. It is our hopes that someone will recognize one or all of them, so we can give them back their names and they can be returned to their family.

DNA suggests that all except the middle child are materially related.

Here is the isotope map.

Please let me know if you will pass this information around. I am currently compiling a list of tribal councils to contact and also a list of Native American publications and media.

Thank you for your time.

I can make it into a note on FB with photos, easier to share

 

[KaylaraOwl]

Excellent! Please add the isotope map. I attached it to the message, but obviously that didn't transfer here.

Do you think I should add the charley/doe/namus links? Or would that be too much?

 

[Roselvr]

Excellent! Please add the isotope map. I attached it to the message, but obviously that didn't transfer here.

Do you think I should add the charley/doe/namus links? Or would that be too much?

I have the isotope map. Give me 30 or so minutes then will post it and you can tell me what you think. I even have a possible date of birth so people know

 

[KaylaraOwl]

Awesome work! Thank you! I hope that passing this around will get the pictures in front of the right people!

 

[Roselvr]

Awesome work! Thank you! I hope that passing this around will get the pictures in front of the right people!

This is pretty much a rough draft, it focuses mostly on the little girl we're aiming to ID. I then added the contact info, links to read more, family recon, one of the main newer articles then their individual stats. I am debating adding their individual recons with each of their stats. I could add a photo to the top but her recon is too big, only her head shows. I don't want to add the family photo there because we're trying to target the one little girl

The way it would be done is when it gets shared, I add your info on who we're targeting with the note. Let me know what you think. I have to cook dinner.

American Indian/ Caucasian Female Aged 3 to 4 Years Old Born Between 1976 and 1980

 

[Alleykins]

Great job, Rose!

 

[Owutatangledweb]

This is pretty much a rough draft, it focuses mostly on the little girl we're aiming to ID. I then added the contact info, links to read more, family recon, one of the main newer articles then their individual stats. I am debating adding their individual recons with each of their stats. I could add a photo to the top but her recon is too big, only her head shows. I don't want to add the family photo there because we're trying to target the one little girl

The way it would be done is when it gets shared, I add your info on who we're targeting with the note. Let me know what you think. I have to cook dinner.

American Indian/ Caucasian Female Aged 3 to 4 Years Old Born Between 1976 and 1980

Roselvr and Kaylara. You are doing a great job. Everyone here has been giving great ideas.

 

[KaylaraOwl]

Sent a message to St. Regis Mohawk Tribe.

 

[Roselvr]

I'm changing the heading, we don't know for sure what her heritage is. I'm assuming they got AI due to characteristics such as shovel teeth.
Please let me know if anyone has any changes.

It was originally American Indian/ Caucasian Female Aged 3 to 4 Years Old Born Between 1976 and 1980

Changed to

Do you recognize this possibly Native American/ Caucasian Female Aged 3 to 4 Years Old Born Between 1976 and 1980?

Then this -
She was possibly born in NORTH OR SOUTH DAKOTA, NEBRASKA OR UPPER NEW YORK, VERMONT OR MASSACHUSETTS - Please see the areas in the red boxes on the isotope testing map below. She was most likely taken from her Native American mother/ relative by her Caucasian father before 1980. Read below to find out more

As I said, this is a rough draft, normally I wouldn't have published it but I had to for everyone to see. There are parts I'm not happy with but ran out of time to finish.

It's very easy to redo as an email too especially if you have gmail, you can just copy the note and paste into gmail.

Once we have it finished, I'll repost it with KaylaraOwl's write up on what we're targeting. I'll also speak to greymetal to see if she can share it too.

 

[Tulessa]

This is pretty much a rough draft, it focuses mostly on the little girl we're aiming to ID. I then added the contact info, links to read more, family recon, one of the main newer articles then their individual stats. I am debating adding their individual recons with each of their stats. I could add a photo to the top but her recon is too big, only her head shows. I don't want to add the family photo there because we're trying to target the one little girl

The way it would be done is when it gets shared, I add your info on who we're targeting with the note. Let me know what you think. I have to cook dinner.

American Indian/ Caucasian Female Aged 3 to 4 Years Old Born Between 1976 and 1980

Nice work sis! She is definitely part First Nation, but she's not 100%. She looks to me to be Lakota Sioux. Have you talked to anyone from that Tribe?

https://www.facebook.com/TheLakotaSioux/?fref=ts

 

[Roselvr]

Nice work sis! She is definitely part First Nation, but she's not 100%. She looks to me to be Lakota Sioux. Have you talked to anyone from that Tribe?

https://www.facebook.com/TheLakotaSioux/?fref=ts

Oh wow! Thanks so much sis! You're the bomb! I'm going to send them a message.

From their FB page about section -

The Lakota are a tribe who live on the northern plains of North America. They are closely related by culture, language, and history to other tribes who together are often referred to as 'Sioux'.
This includes the Dakota who live in Minnesota and eastern North and South Dakota. The Lakota are known as the Teton or Western Sioux. This both to their location (west of the Dakota on the plains) and to the dialect of Sioux they speak.

the Sioux have always called themselves the
Lakota, Nakota or Dakota, meaning "friends, allies."
The name "Sioux" is a French misspelling of the Ojibwa word
nadewisou which means snakes.

 

[Roselvr]

This is what we have so far. Next chance I have I'll add the single recon pics to the other 3 females. Please let me know if anyone has any additions or wording changes. I originally had most likely taken from her Native mother/ relative by her Caucasian father/ relative because LE had said the middle child was not maternally related to the others, but it's possible she was a half-sister of the other girl(s). I personally feel this is a father abduction/ murder; especially since we talked about the mom being placed with the oldest girl when she may have fit with the baby. I feel he placed the 2 girls together because they were sisters. It now reads most likely taken from her Native American parent/ relative by her Caucasian parent/ relative. I'd like to keep this as simple as possible to get the most mileage from it. I feel people get more interested/ involved if they can quickly read it, then links to more info. Will get back here after my daughter has church.

Do you recognize this possibly Native American/ Caucasian Female Aged 3 to 4 Years Old Born Between 1976 and 1980?

She was possibly born in NORTH OR SOUTH DAKOTA, NEBRASKA OR UPPER NEW YORK, VERMONT OR MASSACHUSETTS - Please see the areas in the red boxes on the isotope testing map below. She was most likely taken from her Native American parent/ relative by her Caucasian parent/ relative before 1980. Read below to find out more

Roselvr and Kaylara. You are doing a great job. Everyone here has been giving great ideas.

Thanks so much for your help with wording changes. It's been very much appreciated

 

[carbuff]

Nice work sis! She is definitely part First Nation, but she's not 100%. She looks to me to be Lakota Sioux. Have you talked to anyone from that Tribe?

https://www.facebook.com/TheLakotaSioux/?fref=ts

The area I circled in blue on the attached isotope match are the Cheyenne River (home to the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe (CRST) or Cheyenne River Lakota Nation (Oyate) per Wikipedia) and Standing Rock (home to Lakota, Yanktonai and Dakota) reservations,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_Rock_Indian_Reservation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne_River_Indian_Reservation

That's smack dab in the middle of the isotope area of interest.

Click on the map to enlarge it.

 

[KaylaraOwl]

For the Woman, and related girls, I think we should contact these tribes: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennacook#/media/File:Wohngebiet_Westlicheabenaki.png

Judging by the isotope analysis of them, chances are that they are Abenaki.