NH NH/CA - Robert Evans, suspected SK, Allenstown, 1981-2000's

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... and don't forget that today is Groundhog Day! One of THE most important holidays (IMO)!

Unfortunate for people up north.. cold cold go away :gaah:....


Meanwhile over in South Louisiana Pierre C. Shadeaux the Cajun Groundhog and T-Boy Audubon both say it will be an early spring and beautiful weather for the Mardi Gras season ... :happydance:

T-Boy Audubon
Groundhog Day 2017: T-boy the nutria expects 'wonderful weather' for Mardi Gras
http://www.nola.com/pets/index.ssf/2017/02/groundhog_day_2017_t-boy_the_n.html

Pierre C Shadeux the Cajun Groundhog
It's official: Pierre says it's going to be a longer spring
http://www.katc.com/story/34409796/its-official-pierre-says-its-going-to-be-a-longer-spring

Pierre C. Shadeaux Does Not See Shadow On Cajun Groundhog Day
http://kpel965.com/pierre-c-shadeaux-does-not-see-shadow-on-cajun-groundhog-day/
 
They do look alike! Moo
Nice find


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He also looks like one of the other Rasmussen boys deceased in 2016. An obituary for that brother is available that includes photos and a video where photos of all the five siblings appear.
 
I remember a worker at the store w a gf/wife and some kids mentioned too.

I really wonder why, when the bodies were discovered in 1985, the property owner/employer didn't think that the sudden disappearance of BE was a little suspicious.

I could swear that in the Oakhill blog comments a while back a local mentioned a guy who had worked at the camp store.

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that is what Robert honsch did when he killed his wife and daughter. said he was moving to Australia. his wife and daughter were UID for 19 years due to this.

Did LE say Dutch? For some reason I thought I saw Danish or Swedish.



I meant Danish �� The guy I've been researching fits everything perfectlg except that a Facebook post suggests he's still alive so he can't be him.

This guys family thought he was living in Thailand. What a great way to disappear without your family reporting you missing...say you are moving oversees.
 
Could you post the evidence showing he killed Denise before he left NH?

Don't know that he did. He killed Denise and took daughter cross country, didn't mean it to be read he killed Denise and then took her daughter, sorry didn't mean to suggest that as a fact just a relational thing he may have done with two women. I'm suggesting the Allenstown woman may not have been reported missing because her family assumed, as Denise's did, that they had fled somewhere together.
 
The Allenstown blog has been trying to rebuild the neighborhood from back then for years. I'll be shocked if they do not have an idea of who lived where during his years there.

As for his daughter, I'd have to say she was more likely born 1975-1976 before he got to the area. He most likely went back for her; perhaps he'd recently met up with our Doe, started missing his own daughter as he got to know her kids. I was always sure the younger 2 were related because it made no sense to me why he'd dismember the adult when he could have put the youngest with her. I figured he put the 2 sisters together. Now we know that isn't true. I wonder if he started sexually abusing the oldest girl, mom found out.

that is what I think. because he could have put a smaller one w the woman or put them in a third barrel. he was angry about something.
 
One of the Oakhill research blog administers said the fire was due to a cooking accident. Didn't go into detail. We all know "accidents" can sometimes be intentional. I am wondering what the store was like. Was it like a gas station, mini grocery store, or a tourist shop?

I did find the date of the fire July 1983, the description of the store is vague however gather it was a country store with a red tin roof


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lol well to be honest that is the paradox of CA.... a job in CA w the same pay as a good paying job in TX would have you in a trailer park.

1981
- Commits murders and flees NH with Denise and toddler.
- Heads back to Texas where he worked before and is familiar with the area, can get work and can blend in.

1981 - 1984
- Ends up working the GE Plant job which ends in 1983.
- Why flee this area if he has work and can hide out?
- Did he commit murder again? Is this where Denise died or was she already dead?
- What name was he working under?

1984 - 1985
- In Anahiem working as Curtis M. Kimball.

My question is what happens in Texas for him to leave an area with good paying jobs to live in trailer parks in California?
 
im convinced she is likely a Robert ben rhoades victim :(

Take a look at Walker County Jane Doe who said she was from the Aransas /Rockport area

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in this link he states his wife Denise LaPorte died in 1983. im betting that part is truth.

I think Denise LaPorte was how he referred to Denise B. I'm wondering if the Elizabeth he had sign for a certified letter was the woman in the barrel.
 
This is all the timeline info I've been saving since reading the info last week. I have a friend that's very good at genealogy, I sent her almost everything here. She's very good with finding a needle in a haystack so I was hoping that she may be able to figure out his real name. Hopefully it will help some of the newer posters that haven't read everything.

He was supposedly married to an Elizabeth Evans in NH according to a certified letter dated 1/9/1980 to him that she signed for. Bob was arrested Feb and June 1980 listed spouse name as Elizabeth Evans but when arrested in Oct 1980 he listed no spouse.

"Bob Evans" John Doe Serial Killer (NH, CA) Died in 2010 - Multiple Aliases

This mug shot says his DOB is March 18, 1942

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Mystery in Allenstown NH has all the info; gonna copy in the most important parts relating to Bob. Curious how hard would it be to figure out his real name? This is a pet case of mine since I went over to Websleuths in 2009.

My note trying to ID one of the kids, she is the one he fathered and murdered - Do you recognize this possibly Native American/ Caucasian Female Aged 3 to 4 Years Old Born Between 1976 and 1980?

Names and Information Used by Robert “Bob” Evans
1. Robert T. Evans
a. Robert C. Evans

References to Family (from Evans):
1. Born as Ulos Jensen in Wyoming with a Norwegian/Danish background.
2. He was the youngest son in his family.
3. Ran away as a teenager.
4. Referenced having a 2 year old and a 6 month old child in the 1980s.
5. Listed “Elizabeth Evans” as spouse on 1980 arrest report.

Evans possibly attended the following schools (unconfirmed):

1. Lowell Elementary, Phoenix Arizona
2. North High School, Phoenix Arizona
3. Devry Institution of Technology (Electronic Engineering and Design) Phoenix, Arizona

Cites:
NOTE: Much of the below information was provided by Evans himself in various communications with others. The veracity of the information below is unknown:

1. Evanstown, WY -Possible place of birth.

2. Denver, CO -Possibly spent time here.

3. Roanoke, VA -Evans claimed he married his wife Denise LaPorte here (cannot identify or locate female).

4. Quebec, CA -Evans claims he met his wife Denise LaPorte in here (cannot identify or locate female).

5. San Pedro, CA -Possible place of birth.

6. Anaheim, CA -Possibly employed here.

7. Bay City, TX -Possibly spent time here with “family” and was employed here.

8. Ingleside, TX -Possibly employed here.

9. Houston, TX -Suspect claimed Denise LaPorte died here, was possibly employed here.

10. Austin, TX -Suspect attempted to call someone here living in an RV park.

11. Corpus Christi, TX -Suspect stated his wife was murdered in Corpus Christi.

12. Honolulu, HI -Possible association to the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, based in Honolulu.

13. Greensboro, GA -Possibly arrested under another alias name here.

14. Phoenix, AZ -Possible place of employment.

15. St. Louis, MO -Possible place of employment.

16. Louisiana -Possible place of employment.

17. Washington State -Possible place of employment.

18. Oregon -Possible state of travel/employment.
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DIDNT SEND -
FROM PDF Born between 1936 – 1952
•Died in Prison in 2010
•Changed names frequently
•Confirmed Aliases
•Robert T. Evans
•Curtis Mayo Kimball
•Gerald Mockerman
•Gordon Curtis Jenson or Jensen
•Lawrence William Vanner
•Occupation: Electrician / Mechanic -May have worked at Manchester, NH VA
•Maybe former military (Navy)
•Alcoholic
•Transient – lived in campgrounds, trailer parks and motels

ALLENSTOWN CONNECTIONS-
Late 1970’s – 1981 – Bob Evans lived and worked in Manchester, NH.
•Late 1970’s – 1980 – Worked at Waumbec Mills in Manchester as a mechanic / electrician.
•Evans worked at Waumbec Mills with the owner of property in Allenstown where the barrels with bodies were found in 1985 and 2000.
•Evans also provided electrical work at the Bear Brook Store located on the property in Allenstown (245 Deerfield Road) where the barrels with bodies were found.
•Allenstown adult and oldest child were wrapped in material and electrical wire (Carol Cable).
•Allenstown victims and Eunsoon Jun all died of blunt force trauma.
•Allenstown adult, oldest child and Eunsoon Jun sustained some dismemberment.

No relationship with the other child victims
NEW INFORMATION
DNA results: by Bode Cellmark http://www.bodecellmark.com/
paternally matches Child 2 with Bob Evans

FORMER WIFE/WIVES OR GIRLFRIENDS -
Elizabeth Evans
Denise or Donna Laporte
Donna Walter (California)
Denise Beaudin (New Hampshire)
Eunsoon Jun (California)

-- Donna Walter (CA) - May 27, 1985 Curtis Mayo Kimball was arrested for investigation of drunken driving and child endangerment by Cypress police in Orange County. According to authorities, Curtis Mayo Kimball was married to a woman known as Donna, who works in Orange County as a nurse and who may use the name Donna Walter.

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NH serial killer gave 12 aliases and more information throughout life - http://www.nh1.com/news/ag-nh-serial-killer-gave-12-aliases-and-more-information-throughout-life/

Confirmed Aliases

- Robert T. Evans
- Robert C. Evans
- Curtis Mayo Kimball
- Gordon Curtis Jenson
- Gordon Curtis Jensen
- Gerald E. Mockerman
- Jerry Edward Mockerman
- Lawrence William Vanner

Other Alias Varations

- Jerry Edwards Gorman
- Ulos Jenson
- Curtis Rollin Kimball
- Don Vannerson

General Characteristics

- Died in prison in 2010
- Caucasian
- Tall
- Slim
- Brown hair
- Blue eyes
- Skilled electrician and mechanic
- Lived in trailer parks or motels
- Alcoholic
- Changed names frequently
- May have spoken a foreign language


Vehicles

- Red Dodge pickup truck with a light colored camper, 1965-1968 model
- White Ford Van, 1978 model
- VW Van, two-toned, light color on top with a blue or green color on bottom
Possible schools Evans attended (unconfirmed)

- Lowell Elementary, Phoenix, Ariz.
- North High School, Phoenix, Ariz.
- Devry Institution of Technology (Electronic Engineering and Design major), Phoenix, Ariz.
Cities Evans mentions

- Evanstown, Wyo.: Possible place of birth
- Denver, Colo.: Possibly spent time here
- Roanoke, Va.: Evans claimed he married his wife Denise LaPorte here, who cannot be identified or located
- Quebec, Canada: Evans also claims he met his wife LaPorte here
- San Pedro, Calif.: Possible place of birth
- Anaheim, Calif.: Possibly employed here
- Bay City, Texas: Possibly spent time here with "family" and was employed here
- Ingleside, Texas: Possibly employed here
- Houston, Texas: Evans claimed LaPorte died here; was possibly employed here
- Austin, Texas: Evans attempted to call someone here living in an RV park
- Corpus Christi, Texas: Evans stated his wife was murdered in Corpus Christi
- Honolulu, Hawaii: Possible association to the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, based in Honolulu
- Greensboro, Ga.: Possibly arrested under another alias name here
- Phoenix, Ariz.: Possible place of employment
- St. Louis, Mo.: Possible place of employment
- Louisiana: Possible place of employment
- Washington State: Possible place of employment
- Oregon: Possible state of travel/employment
Evans' References to Family

- Born as Ulos Jensen in Wyoming with a Norwegian/Danish background
- He was the youngest son in his family
- Ran away as a teenager
- Referenced having a 2 year old and a 6 month old child in the 1980s
- Listed “Elizabeth Evans” as spouse on 1980 arrest report
Witnesses' References to Evans' Family

- Seen with an unknown woman in her 20s to 30s, and four small children in a dark four door sedan in California during the 1980s

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Suspected American serial killer may have spent time in Quebec in the 1970s


The U.S. National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children is asking people to rack their memories about a murderer with a Quebec connection

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...they believe he spent time in Quebec in the late 1970s. A spokesperson for the Centre says Evans met a Denise or a Donna Laporte at that time. It says Evans — who is also said to have gone by the names Curtis Mayo Kimball or Gordon Curtis Jenson — once mentioned he had an ex-wife by that name.

Authorities hope that by tracking her down, they could find out more about who the victims are.

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Ancestry article from WS MysticJynx
1986 pg 1
Police Seeking Man Believed To Be Father Of Abandonded Girl

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/8648942/gorden_jensen_curtis_mayo_kimball_bob/
pg 2
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/8648909/curtis_mayo_kimball_aliasof_bob_evans/


1989 Questions pervade child abuse case - fingerprint Curtis Mayo Kimball
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/8649009/gordon_jensen_and_lisa/


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The Sun SATURDAY, October 18, 1986
Jensen's fingerprints were matched to those of Curtis Mayo Kimball, who was arrested by Cypress police in Orange County on May 27, 1966, for investigation of drunken driving and child endan germent, the detective said. According to authorities, Kimball was married to a woman known as Donna, who works in Orange County as a nurse and who may use the name Donna Walter, Harris said. Investigators also have received information that Lisa may have a 2- or 3-year-old sister. Sheriffs investigators believe (hat both Jensen and Kimball are Wan

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IDENTITY THEFT? possibly used this man's identity, only he used 1942 instead of 1952, but same date...

Curtis Mayo Kimball
b:18 Mar 1952
Los Angeles, California, United States
Mother's name:Vasquez
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VGNN-MJ3
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FULL PRESSER - https://www.facebook.com/wmur9/videos/10154452969563717/
Raw video: Police say same man killed missing woman, Allenstown victims, California woman
http://www.wmur.com/article/raw-vid...n-allenstown-victims-california-woman/8642678

Middle child isotopes
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Alias Names:

  • (1977 – Nov 1981 - 4 Years) - Robert T / C “Bob” Evans - New Hampshire
  • (1981, Dec – 1984, Feb - 4 Years) - Unknown (CMK ?)
  • (1984, Mar – 1985, May - 1 Year 2 Months) - Curtis Mayo Kimball - California
  • (1985, Jun – 1986, Dec - 1 Year 6 Months) – Unknown (GCJ?)
  • (1986, Jan – 1986, Jun - 6 Months) – Gordon Curtis “Gerry” Jenson/Jensen - California
  • (1986, Jul – 1987 - 1 Year) – Unknown (GEM?)
  • (1987 – 1988, Nov - 1 Year) - Gerald Edward “Jerry” Mockerman - Idaho/California
  • (1988, Dec – 1989, Feb - 1 Year 2 Months) – Unknown
  • (1990, Oct – 2001, Jul - 10 Years 2 Months) - Unknown (LWV?)
  • (2001, Aug – 2010, Dec - Till Death) - Lawrence William “Larry “Vanner - California

Variant Alias Names:

  • Ulos Jensen
  • Curtis Rollin Kimball
  • Don Vannerson
  • Jerry Edwards Gorman


IMO... I'm placing Evans in Texas anywhere in the time frame of (Dec 1981 - Feb 1984) and may have used the name Curtis Mayo Kimball or Curtis Rollin Kimball. LE detective ran the license plate of the truck and it was registered to a motel in Texas (Still looking for that article). Wonder if there were any trucks reported stolen under either of those names.

It may be possible once Evans abandoned D/L that he had intent to flee go to Texas again due to the phone calls being placed to RV Parks around the Austin, TX area... However who knows if he did or not as that he soon enough showed up as being in Idaho sometime between 1986-1987.

My apologizes for reposting information we already have, trying to look at in different formats just like trying to work a jigsaw puzzle keep placing the pieces where you believe they will fit if not it goes back into the puzzle pile.....
Love this timeline.breaks it down perfectly.thanks for taking the time to do that!
 
I think I'm wrong on this theory. Robert Rasmussen had dark eyes and Robert Evans had blue eyes. Couldn't be the same person. But the resemblance is uncanny between Evans and the Rasmussen brother. Just shocked me.

The eye colour has been stated as different but the shape sure is the same, so is the nose and what you can kind of see in the ears.
I haven't discounted this. Moo


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Another of Robert Evans' aliases had the middle name of "Mayo". He probably took this from the USS Mayo, a ship (vessel) in the Star Trek series and is probably useless for identification purposes. I am leaning to believing he got his electrical training from the service.
 
What I find interesting about our guy is that he really doesn't have much of a criminal record (well, except for the murders).

He was arrested three times in NH but these were minor crimes people with serious money problems commit, not hardened criminals. (Stealing electricity almost always means bypassing your meter to avoid it being measured or bypass where the power company has cut you off for non-payment. His fingerprints did not have a "hit" yet he was using a false identity. Why? It is possible that his fingerprints were not submitted to the State or Federal Data Base, perhaps because they were only misdemeanor but verifying against other data bases is usually done.

Ordinary debts wouldn't cause you much trouble if you moved out of the area. Child Support and Federal Taxes are two types of debt you couldn't really run from and along with criminal warrants and immigration issues, are the most common reason for changing ones identity.

1981 was a recession year. If he was using a false identity without a "good" Social Security number, he would not have been able to get Unemployment Benefits. Perhaps this is why he had to commit petty frauds.

In California, besides the murder, the only real crime he committed that demonstrates "criminal intent" was the vehicle theft in Nov 1988 in San Luis Obispo and we really don't know what came of it. He was arrested on the child abandonment warrant in March 1989 but we don't know where he was at the time. It is possible that he was being held on the car theft charge but there is no mention of ever being convicted on that charge. He was convicted on the child abandonment charge and served 18 months under the name Curtis Mayo Kimball, the id he was using when he got his DUI in May of 1985. No link was made with his NH arrests or any arrests anywhere else. Apparently that was the first time his fingerprints were registered in a Law Enforcement data base. After that, his identity seemed to revert to that name while in custody.

The Santa Cruz newspaper article alleges that 5 year old Lisa claimed he had molested her but it also states that there was no physical evidence of sexual abuse. The San Bernardino paper also states that there was no evidence of abuse. He was not convicted of sexual abuse, only abandonment. I am not convinced that he did sexually abuse her or that it was his motivation for keeping her as long as he did.

When he was arrested for murder in 2002, he was using the name Vanner but was id'd as Kimball when his prints were run. Due to the seriousness of the crime and the fact that he had a pattern of using aliases, it would be SOP to check every available fingerprints registry. By 2002, This was all digitalize and easy to do. But no hits before 1985.

I am not trying to defend the guy. He killed five people including a child but there doesn't seem to be an obvious motive. It is quite a mystery.
 
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