NH NH - Denise Beaudin, 23, Manchester, 26 Nov 1981

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dotr said:
http://www.fox25boston.com/news/nh-officials-to-announce-development-in-decades-old-cases/487838512
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TIMELINE OF EVENTS

In 1980, Evans was arrested and listed his spouse as Elizabeth Evans, though authorities do not know who that is.
Evans and Beaudin disappeared together in 1981, but no missing persons report was ever filed with authorities. The couple disappeared with their daughter, then known as "Dawn", but Evans later gave the daughter, now known as "Lisa", up for adoption.
In 1984 and 1985, Evans changed his name to Curtis Kimball. In 1985, Evans was arrested for drunk driving in California. He had his baby girl with him at the time. Around June or July of that year, Evans abandoned his daughter at a trailer park. The girl was placed into foster care and later adopted.
In 1986, when California went to investigate Evans for abandoning his child, he was no longer in the Santa Cruz area. In October of 1986, felony arrest warrants were put out for one of Evans' aliases: Gordon Curtis Jenson.
In 1988, Evans was arrested in San Luis Obispo, California for vehicle theft. This time, his alias was Gerry Mockerman.
In March of 1989, Evans was arrested on warrants out of Santa Cruz. In October of 1990, Evans made parole and took off the next day. Evans was then a fugitive for 12 years.
In August of 2001, Evans married Eunsoon Jun in Richmond, California using the name William Vanner. It was a backyard marriage and no official paperwork was filed.
In September of 2002, Jun was found buried in her basement. In November of the same year, Evans was arrested for Jun's murder and sentenced to 15 years to life in prison.
On December 28, 2010, Evans died in prison.
DNA tests from August, 2003 show that Beaudin's daughter is not biologically Evans'.
 
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Officials know that Evans (last person to be with Denise) died in prison in 2010 while he was serving a sentence for killing his wife, Eunsoon Jun, in 2002. He was a skilled electrician and mechanic, an alcoholic, and an indigent who lived in mobile home parks and motels.

Eunsoon Jun, Robert Evans’ wife, who he was convicted
of killing in 2002.

He changed his name frequently. Some of his aliases were Curtis Mayo Kimball, Gordon Curtis Jenson, Gerald E. Mockerman and Lawrence William Vanner.


Investigators said he told people that he was born in Wyoming with the name Ulos Jensen and was the youngest son in the family. He said he ran away as a teenager. Investigators said they also believe that he could have been born in San Pedro, California.

http://www.wmur.com/article/man-at-...hs-missing-woman-case-remains-mystery/8643061
 
http://www.fox25boston.com/news/nh-officials-to-announce-development-in-decades-old-cases/487838512

Police believe Evans killed Denise somewhere in California and sometime thereafter abandoned Denise's daughter, Lisa, in a trailer park. Lisa has just shadowy memories of her life as a baby and recently decided to find more about her past through DNA evidence. That led to the discovery that Denise was her mother.
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This answered my question about how Denise's daughter "Lisa" figured out that Denise was her mother. What a bittersweet discovery though. Denise's family must be so happy to be reunited with "Lisa" after all these years!
 
SunsetGirl said:
http://www.fox25boston.com/news/nh-officials-to-announce-development-in-decades-old-cases/487838512



This answered my question about how Denise's daughter "Lisa" figured out that Denise was her mother. What a bittersweet discovery though. Denise's family must be so happy to be reunited with "Lisa" after all these years!
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I realize I should go and get a good night's sleep, and I'll do just that in a few minutes, but can someone reading this post tell me how Dawn/Lisa's DNA was matched to Denise's at any time since the summer of 2016 when Denise wasn't reported missing until late fall 2016? No one seemed to know Denise was missing, so how did it happen that her DNA was obtained? Or is this a case where DNA was obtained from her father or a sibling, and that DNA was used in conjunction with Dawn/Lisa's to create a match? Thank you for straightening out my confusion!
 
Kiln Wood said:
I realize I should go and get a good night's sleep, and I'll do just that in a few minutes, but can someone reading this post tell me how Dawn/Lisa's DNA was matched to Denise's at any time since the summer of 2016 when Denise wasn't reported missing until late fall 2016? No one seemed to know Denise was missing, so how did it happen that her DNA was obtained? Or is this a case where DNA was obtained from her father or a sibling, and that DNA was used in conjunction with Dawn/Lisa's to create a match? Thank you for straightening out my confusion!
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Originally, LE in California were interested in finding the man who abandoned Lisa. The people he left her with thought he was her father because he said he was. But once they caught him, they discovered he was NOT her father. So they wanted to find out Lisa's REAL identity. A genetic genealogist discovered she was Dawn Beaudin. When LE contacted her family, they discovered that her mom, Denise, hadn't been seen in 35 years. And everything began to unravel from there.

This information is from folieadeuxnola's link to the Powerpoint Presentation
http://www.doj.nh.gov/media-center/p...identified.pdf


• August 2003 – DNA testing determined Evans and Lisa were not biologically related. San Bernardino COSO initiated an investigation into the true identity of Lisa Jenson.

• 2014 – San Bernardino COSO enlisted the assistance of DNAadoption.com and one of their Search Angels, a genetic genealogist to identify links to relatives of Lisa.

• 2016 – First cousin and grandfather of Lisa were identified in New Hampshire which led to proving that Lisa is Dawn Beaudin – daughter of missing person, Denise Beaudin.


The Power Point presentation is REALLY helpful in laying out the intricacies of this case and how it intertwines with the Allentown NH UIDs and other possible murders/UIDs. I recommend reading it at some point. I have been following the Allentown NH case for awhile because I live in an adjacent state and have family in NH. This presentation made it a bit easier for me to understand what's going on . :)
 
Only thing I don't get is why did Denise's family wait so long to report Denise missing?
 
italianbella said:
Only thing I don't get is why did Denise's family wait so long to report Denise missing?
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Some of the earlier news reports indicated that her family assumed she and Bob had left to avoid some financial problems.

http://www.wcsh6.com/news/local/missing-cold-case-what-happened-to-nh-girl-denise-beaudin/379725809

It's so hard to know the relationship Denise had with her parents - did they even approve of her relationship with Bob? And if they had gone to the police to report her as missing, I wonder would anything have been done about it? She was well over the age of consent and on the surface it may have looked like they really were just avoiding whatever money problems they had. I'm vaguely remembering reading news reports of Bob Evans being arrested near that time for writing bad checks. Their "leaving town" happened several years before the discovery of the Allenstown bodies so why would anyone suspect anything at the time? Apparently no connections to Bob Evans had ever been made after the discovery either, otherwise it would seem questions would have been asked and maybe red flags would have appeared to her family back then. It's possible also that her parents might have been very hurt by the sudden "disappearance" and not hearing anything over the years (especially taking their grandbaby!). Or maybe they didn't want to get her into trouble with the law if the money problems were serious.

There are so many things we may never know but out of respect and sensitivity for her family (who are now having to digest all of this) I'm ok with not fully understanding their actions.
 
Can we please stop questioning why Denise's family didn't report her missing out of consideration for Denise's family's feelings? I'm sure they feel badly enough about it as it is, and hindsight is 20/20.

Investigators already addressed the "why" in the press conference. Sorry it's not good enough of an explanation for some, but it is what it is, based on the time period she went missing.

Sorry to unload here, but it is very frustrating to keep repeating this over and over: It was not uncommon to go long periods of time without hearing from an adult or to lose touch with them prior to the internet due to the limited forms of communication available. It was the norm. Long distance phone calls were expensive before divestiture, collect calls still cost and arm and a leg! and not everyone is a letter writer. Those were basically the only options she had to keep in touch back then, unless she had money for a telegram.

People weren’t expected to check in on the hour, every day, and it wasn’t unusual or a red flag, to go days, weeks or years without hearing anything. It was very rare that staying out of contact indicated something was amiss. Unfortunately, Denise's was one of the exceptions, but how in the world could her family have known that in 1981? Again, hindsight is 20/20.

Also:
(1) an adult can go missing if they want to and they don't owe anyone an explanation as to why and
(2) if someone left voluntarily, as her family believed, she technically wasn't missing so why would they report her missing?

Lastly, chances are, even if they had tried to report her missing, authorities may not have taken the report unless her family could have proved it was due to suspicious circumstances.
 
Earth said:
Could any of these be Denise?

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/5703 ... possible

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/399 ... seems unlikely but ?

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/4842 ... a very good possibility (based on what limited info there is) ... this body was found Dec 26, 1982 (1yr after Denise went missing) and there is DNA on file for this one.

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/7138 ... this UID had blond hair and measured height 68" - compared to Denise's brown hair and estimated 64-66" and another serial killer took credit for this one - so maybe not

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/4611 ... this body was found Oct 29, 1981 - before Denise went missing
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Just reading through each NamUs file, #4842 - the Indiana one seems like a good possibility!
 
Alleykins said:
Can we please stop questioning why Denise's family didn't report her missing out of consideration for Denise's family's feelings? I'm sure they feel badly enough about it as it is, and hindsight is 20/20.

Investigators already addressed the "why" in the press conference. Sorry it's not good enough of an explanation for some, but it is what it is, based on the time period she went missing.

Sorry to unload here, but it is very frustrating to keep repeating this over and over: It was not uncommon to go long periods of time without hearing from an adult or to lose touch with them prior to the internet due to the limited forms of communication available. It was the norm. Long distance phone calls were expensive before divestiture, collect calls still cost and arm and a leg! and not everyone is a letter writer. Those were basically the only options she had to keep in touch back then, unless she had money for a telegram.

People weren’t expected to check in on the hour, every day, and it wasn’t unusual or a red flag, to go days, weeks or years without hearing anything. It was very rare that staying out of contact indicated something was amiss. Unfortunately, Denise's was one of the exceptions, but how in the world could her family have known that in 1981? Again, hindsight is 20/20.

Also:
(1) an adult can go missing if they want to and they don't owe anyone an explanation as to why and
(2) if someone left voluntarily, as her family believed, she technically wasn't missing so why would they report her missing? Lastly, chances are, even if they had tried to report her missing, authorities may not have taken the report unless her family could have proved it was due to suspicious circumstances.
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As I read the highlighted portions, I can't help but wonder if any of it would also relate to the adult female found in one of the barrels in Allenstown.
 
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/491ufin.html

Someone, I don't remember who, posted this one on the Allenstown uids thread. The post disappeared after Bessie went through and moved/removed several posts. I agree with the original poster that this lady could possibly be Denise.
 
Sierras said:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/491ufin.html

Someone, I don't remember who, posted this one on the Allenstown uids thread. The post disappeared after Bessie went through and moved/removed several posts. I agree with the original poster that this lady could possibly be Denise.
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Here is the NamUs thread for this set of unidentified remains:
https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/4842
This is on a very short list of possibilities that I found while sifting through UPs along a cross country route. DNA is available for this UP, so once Denise's DNA profile is complete, hopefully we'll know, one way or the other.
 
SunsetGirl said:
http://www.fox25boston.com/news/nh-officials-to-announce-development-in-decades-old-cases/487838512



This answered my question about how Denise's daughter "Lisa" figured out that Denise was her mother. What a bittersweet discovery though. Denise's family must be so happy to be reunited with "Lisa" after all these years!
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Not much family left though ...her mother georgette,died in 2008.listed Denise as,a family member,but nothing about a grandchild.her brother Randall died,but cannot find any info online.
 
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