NJ NJ - Danielle Lopez, 37, went camping in Wharton State Forest, car found in Penn State Forest, 13 Apr 2024

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Angelcat13 said:
Although a lot of the older WaWa's have been replaced with larger "gas station" WaWa's, the WaWa on Route 72 (by the Route 70 / 72 circle) is one of the older, small WaWa's with only one entrance/exit into the store so the surveillance image posted by the NJ State Police could only be from this one door. There is parking in front, on the right side and left front. To the right and behind the WaWa is a small open area, then lots and lots of woods. To the left is Woodland Discount Liquors and Billy Boy's Tavern. Going south on Route 72 there is also a gas station and a pizza place, then not much except for a few small businesses (mostly run out of homes) until you get to the New Lisbon Developmental Center (1.1 miles from the WaWa).

(From the State website: New Lisbon Developmental Center, founded in 1914, is located in New Lisbon, Burlington County on a 1,896-acre tract of land on the edge of the New Jersey Pinelands. It became a state training institution in 1916 and has provided a comprehensive system of care for women and men with intellectual and developmental disabilities since 1977.)

I was out this way today and stopped in to get some lunch and, with it being a holiday weekend with good weather today there was a lot of activity with bikes (bicycles & motorcycles), canoes, kayaks, etc. It made me hopeful that with all of the people out there enjoying this beautiful area this weekend that someone might come across something. I just hope that a lot of people know about Danielle and will keep there eyes open just in case they notice something that could be important.

I'm not sure where on Lost Lane her car was found, but Lost Lane is a fairly long (dirt) road. I'll try to post some pictures later this evening, but I am headed out to the marina for a bit.
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Is there a campground near where her car was found?
 
Knox said:
Is there a campground near where her car was found?
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I don’t know because I don’t know exactly where her car was found. But lots of people camp there outside of actual campgrounds. Reasons could be to avoid campground fees and/or wanting privacy (for a variety of reasons - from innocent to playful to romantic to nefarious and everything in between.
 
Angelcat13 said:
Here’s a little info for anyone that is not from the area that may be interested in doing some research.

The area where Danielle is alleged to have gone missing - and where her car was found - is officially known as Woodland Twp, Burlington County. It is more commonly known as Chatsworth.

The Zip Code is predominantly 08088, though parts of the Twp are 08015 and 08019. The Zip Code 08088 is the Vincentown Post Office, however there is no legal Municipality of Vincentown. Vincentown was/is the “Village” portion of Southampton. If you see a reference to “Vincentown”, it most likely is referring to anything within the 08088 Zip Code - NOT the actual Vincentown “Village”.
The 08088 “Vincentown” Zip Code actually encompasses Shamong, Southampton (“Vincentown”), Tabernacle & Woodland (Chatsworth).
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I know Chatsworth. I grew up in the Pine Barrens in Burlington County, nearWharton state Forrest, it is a racist area. It is defiantly easy to get lost out there.
Between Vincentown and Chatsworth, there is another Wawa, and a State mental hospital. There is a gas station and a Bar on hwy 72. I used to camp Near New Greanta, I think the town was called tuckerton? I know there are many camp grounds and I pray she is found.
 
mlhenn said:
people.com

Mom Who Has Already Lost 2 Children Reveals Last Conversation with Daughter Before She Disappeared

The mother of Danielle Lopez, a New Jersey woman who has been missing for over a month now, tells PEOPLE she did not sense anything wrong with her daughter in their last conversation before she disappeared.
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SO much loss for this mother. My heart aches for her. I'm glad she's got some support but I'm sure it'll never be enough to absolve the pain of losing all three children. Sending lots of love and positive thoughts her way.

From the article:
Lopez is Quackenbush’s only surviving child. Her eldest son Michael died by suicide in 2015, followed 10 months later by her younger son Michael, a Marine who had returned from Afghanistan, in a vehicle incident in Florida.

“That's been a lot,” Quackenbush says. “And then Danielle, shortly after that, lost her grandfather who she had been living with in Delran at the time. She lost him to COVID, and her father a month later.”

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Quackenbush says that she joined an organization called the Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors (TAPS) after the death of her son Michael. “I have been able to be a peer mentor to many other moms who have lost multiple children,” she says. “So over the years, I've given back to that organization by being a peer mentor. Now I'm in need, and TAPS is wrapping themselves around me with all the support that they can offer.”
 
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feels_close_to_home said:
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) this might be worth an elimination for someone. Working on it now, but at a first glance there's a few things that line up, mainly physical. Going to find her online.
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Definitely needs to be ruled out, but I would hope that police working on identifying an unidentified body would quickly look to rule out any missing persons in the general are (in this case that would include South Jersey because of its proximity and the ease/frequency to travel back and forth).

Not that people don’t change clothes and jewelry, but I did a quick check of pictures of Danielle that are available online and it doesn’t look like she typically wears earrings and the one picture I can see a necklace in doesn’t match the one found with the body. And assuming she may have disappeared shortly after the last know photo of her (leaving the WaWa on Route 72), the description of the pants doesn’t match either.

Hoping this is not Danielle and that she is alive somewhere and will hopefully be found/returned to her family soon. Hoping the woman whose body was found in Philly will be identified and justice served (if it was not a natural or accidental death) and prayers for her family and friends.

Danielle…WHERE ARE YOU!
 
Angelcat13 said:
Definitely needs to be ruled out, but I would hope that police working on identifying an unidentified body would quickly look to rule out any missing persons in the general are (in this case that would include South Jersey because of its proximity and the ease/frequency to travel back and forth).

Not that people don’t change clothes and jewelry, but I did a quick check of pictures of Danielle that are available online and it doesn’t look like she typically wears earrings and the one picture I can see a necklace in doesn’t match the one found with the body. And assuming she may have disappeared shortly after the last know photo of her (leaving the WaWa on Route 72), the description of the pants doesn’t match either.

Hoping this is not Danielle and that she is alive somewhere and will hopefully be found/returned to her family soon. Hoping the woman whose body was found in Philly will be identified and justice served (if it was not a natural or accidental death) and prayers for her family and friends.

Danielle…WHERE ARE YOU!
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Same thoughts exactly. The heights are also quite a bit off, but I've seen a 5'11'' woman reported as found as 5'4'' before; it happens. Also, a similar case was nearby (Cincinnati, 2023 Nov, i want to say), the victim literally lived a few blocks over, sat unidentified for quite a while, with pleas on the news for people to help identify.

This tipped my 25% scale for sleuthing, so I figured it warranted some eyes. Now either "the case" or "both cases" will have more awareness. My HOPE and EXPECTED OUTCOME here is this is not Danielle. But today? You just never know.

irrigardless your feelings toward cops; if we really take ALL context into account, they're all overworked. There's not enough people to do these jobs; you've seen the education system and how the funding works. So sometimes we try to figure it out.

I'm a hunter of the truth. It irks me sometimes when I don't know something. It makes me angry to see all these faceless victims. It worries me when I see another missing person pop up. I have a pretty high skillset in the dev world and can do a lot of searches and data mining faster and more efficiently than a lot of these tools as is. I have all the individual pieces scattered about, but I just can't seem to put them all together. I want to help. I want to bring awareness to these people. I want to find them. Absolutely no one deserves to be faceless.
 
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Finally mapped out the campsite, IMO the chances of DL driving the car to it's final destination is extremely unlikely in almost any scenario i can come up with what i currently know.

There's some notes i have that i need to map out to see if there's anything at all in that direction she could have been legitimatly heading toward, but I don't see anything.

THEORY: I do however see what I would think would be a good place to try to dispose of a car, in the literal center of a state forest. And If you were looking at a map from the campground looking for a spot to dispose of a car; it's a great spot to have tried to drop it, but "they" got stuck in the mud, needed to go get something to pull it out. Come back and it's either gone or someone's in the process of moving it out. If i can figure out the "who is they" in this situation, I can attempt determine if that person would be more likely at this point to turn around and leave, or to insert themeselves more into the situation and assist with the removal as a passerby, because a lot of "them" always think they'll get away with it if they can control it, which they almost never can. [they's in this case being unknowns; ie the people who think they can get away with murder because they have a plan, etc].
 
acutename said:
max depth of Oswego Lake = 8 ft
usa.fishermap.org

Oswego Lake (NJ) nautical chart and water depth map

Oswego Lake (NJ) nautical chart on depth map. Coordinates: 39.73412385, -74.48574482. Free marine navigation, important information about the hydrography of Oswego Lake
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seems like not the best choice to hide anything unless you are counting on the
fish being ravenous.... IMO

people seem to like to try to hot rod on the pine barrens' roads but the sand and mud gets them. do people think this woman's car was taken to mess with and she was just discarded somehow?
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See where I got hung up on; I made 100% sure I was looking at the Oswego Lake in NJ not Oregon. Turns out this search is a little bad at reading the pdf's. the depth is 3'. not 31'. There are some deeper parts, but yeah, looks like it's a bit shallower than i thought.

Agree 100% on it not being the best choice to hide anything, a lot of my theories derive from throwing stress and anxiety and bad decisions along with a 'trigger finger' to follow different paths. We just don't make the best choices when we're in a bad place.

The way I look at this there are four things that could have happened.

1. Her past caught up with her - something from before finally boiled over. People hold grudges and just can't let go. This could be anything, requires deep digging. For whatever reason, I am seeing this trending, i've been focusing on it for about a year. Nostalgia is hitting hard in more than one place.
2. She made someone mad within the last few years - Honestly, it's harder with this kind of case to find evidence for this. In so many cases, this one I believe is included, we see someone who's life was "good" (i mean, some tragic stuff looks to have happened to her, it makes me really sad for someone who at times looks so happy). But whenever that massive life change happens, people tend to lock down their socials. I'm seeing some evidence of that having happened in ~2021. Which means the "Before" and "After" scenarios split here.
3. She pissed off the wrong person that day - People suck. Not all people, but you know what I mean. Some people are so entitled to think the world is their's that they have no regard for human life, and you can see it. This scenario leads to bad choices and mistakes. If you haven't prepared, and you've made a mistake like getting your car stuck in an area you should know, bad choices will be made. I've mentioned it before, but no one can avoid every camera today.
4. She's gone. It honestly doesn't matter why. I'm looking at her life through a screen. I can only put together what I can see. There are infinite possibilities and reasons she may have to run away. If I ever find PoL after someone first appears to have disappeared under "suspicious circumstances", i contact LE with what i've found, and leave it be. If people don't want to be found, that is their choice. I would hope authorities would clear it up some how to the public, but not my place to make that decision for anyone. I haven't seen that here, but again, i probably wouldn't by design.


1 or 3 is where I'm at.

So I'm relatively new on this case. Like 4 days?
acutename said:
people seem to like to try to hot rod on the pine barrens' roads but the sand and mud gets them. do people think this woman's car was taken to mess with and she was just discarded somehow?
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I think it's more so the thought is someone was in the process of attempting to discard the vehicle. I saw a reference on FB saying they hoped the car wouldn't be "burned out", so i assume there are discarded cars around the area in some way? Is that a bad assumption? Discarded is a horrible word for this, but yeah, i mean, that would be what would happen here. Something happens to her and you don't want to get caught, you have to discard evidence. She would be evidence.
 
Found something kind of interesting with her twitter account, screenshot and link below. Essentially her twitter account hasn't been used in years, looks to be around when MDL died when she stopped posting and hadn't touched it since. However, her most recent follow is "@Xcreators", this HAS to have been added within the last... what... year and change? So she's used this account or someone's logged into it since 2016, yeah?

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feels_close_to_home said:
Found something kind of interesting with her twitter account, screenshot and link below. Essentially her twitter account hasn't been used in years, looks to be around when MDL died when she stopped posting and hadn't touched it since. However, her most recent follow is "@Xcreators", this HAS to have been added within the last... what... year and change? So she's used this account or someone's logged into it since 2016, yeah?

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Likely they just changed the username since Twitter changed to X? Accounts are bought and sold all the time.
 
Angelcat13 said:
Here is some new media about Danielle -

share.newsbreak.com

Puzzling disappearance of New Jersey woman leaves mother desperate for answers - NewsBreak

“She’s the most loving, kind, just vibrant, smart girl I’ve ever come across,” Sue Quackenbush gushed about her 37-year-old daughter, Danielle Lopez. Sue also told Dateline her daughter was funny, and loud. “She would say, ‘Well, you didn’t name me Danquiet… You named me Danyell.’”
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Thanks! So sad that she has not been located yet.
 
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